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TESU portfolio tips - tesu-acct-student - 03-14-2016

It wasn't just an assertion: I copied and pasted the email I got from TESU in September 2013 about the two different rates for PLA credits. Here it is again.

Quote:Thank you for your note. Welcome back! The PLA-100 and PLA-200 courses will benefit you in several ways. You will reflect on your accomplishments and pull them all together in one file or one location for your review. You will learn how to analyze these accomplishments and determine what credit might be earned as a result. You will be able to develop portfolios for potential credit review, as well as developing a professional portfolio for perhaps future career opportunities. Finally, the 3 credits will unquestionably apply to your BA, as General Education elective credits.

That being said, because you have previously completed portfolios you would not be required to take the two PLA courses. You would be able to continue doing PLAs the same way you did them previously, which we now refer to as “single course, 12-week PLAs.” In these courses, you work with a mentor submitting several drafts of a portfolio, each one reviewed before you submit the final portfolio for review and determination of credit. If you utilize that process, your cost is $213 per credit.

However, if you opt to take the PLA-100 and PLA-200 courses, you can then submit final portfolios for final review of credit, and the cost is dramatically less - $350 for the first 12 credits you submit.

This is your choice. This is not offered to all students but given you’ve already been successful with the PLA process we can offer this to you. Please let me know if you have additional questions.

So, at least at some point in time, there were two rates. Having said that, it's entirely possible that the higher rate no longer exists--but I don't know that for sure, and hearing it here from you all, as obviously knowledgeable as you all are, is not enough evidence to persuade me YET. I would truly love to hear from:
  • TESU students
  • who have had TESU evaluate their portfolios (not just had TESU accept credit for portfolios evaluated elsewhere)
  • who have not taken TESU's PLA-100/200 and who have taken equivalent courses elsewhere such as Kaplan (or had portfolios evaluated elsewhere)
  • and who paid the $379/12 credit rate.



TESU portfolio tips - jsd - 03-14-2016

In the message immediately prior to your last post, sanantone addressed this.


TESU portfolio tips - davewill - 03-14-2016

It's kind of a shame. What started out as a useful thread on doing PLAs has turned into a pie fight about the rates. Any way we can separate this stuff from the actual tips?


TESU portfolio tips - sanantone - 03-14-2016

tesu-acct-student Wrote:It wasn't just an assertion: I copied and pasted the email I got from TESU in September 2013 about the two different rates for PLA credits. Here it is again.



So, at least at some point in time, there were two rates. Having said that, it's entirely possible that the higher rate no longer exists--but I don't know that for sure, and hearing it here from you all, as obviously knowledgeable as you all are, is not enough evidence to persuade me YET. I would truly love to hear from:
  • TESU students
  • who have had TESU evaluate their portfolios (not just had TESU accept credit for portfolios evaluated elsewhere)
  • who have not taken TESU's PLA-100/200 and who have taken equivalent courses elsewhere such as Kaplan (or had portfolios evaluated elsewhere)
  • and who paid the $379/12 credit rate.

From the email you provided, it looks like TESU no longer offers that type of "single course" option. That was how PLAs were done under the old system. A couple of years ago, TESU created the Per Credit Tuition Plan and changed how PLAs were done. That email you quoted sounds like they were in the transition period.


TESU portfolio tips - tesu-acct-student - 03-14-2016

sanantone Wrote:If you want to earn more than 3 credits by portfolio assessment, you have to take PLA-100 and 200, transfer in an equivalent course, or have previous experience with doing PLAs. In this case, portfolio assessments are charged at a flat rate.

Because of what I was told in Sept. 2013, I am particularly interested in the bolded part. Who here has received credit for a portfolio at another institution, then had TESU evaluate subsequent portfolios? This would be really helpful to me, because I am now concerned that there is a standard that is not being equally applied to all students. If somebody qualified to have portfolios evaluated at TESU at the rate of $379/12 credits, based on their successful completion of a portfolio elsewhere, then I need to know this so I can reach out to TESU and find out what happened in my case and why I was told what I was told.


TESU portfolio tips - sanantone - 03-14-2016

tesu-acct-student Wrote:Because of what I was told in Sept. 2013, I am particularly interested in the bolded part. Who here has received credit for a portfolio at another institution, then had TESU evaluate subsequent portfolios? This would be really helpful to me, because I am now concerned that there is a standard that is not being equally applied to all students. If somebody qualified to have portfolios evaluated at TESU at the rate of $379/12 credits, based on their successful completion of a portfolio elsewhere, then I need to know this so I can reach out to TESU and find out what happened in my case and why I was told what I was told.

I emailed the bursar asking how much I would be charged because I've already completed a PLA at Empire State College and transferred the credit to TESU.


TESU portfolio tips - tesu-acct-student - 03-14-2016

sanantone Wrote:I emailed the bursar asking how much I would be charged because I've already completed a PLA at Empire State College and transferred the credit to TESU.

Just so I'm clear: this wasn't a PLA preparatory course, right?


TESU portfolio tips - sanantone - 03-14-2016

tesu-acct-student Wrote:Just so I'm clear: this wasn't a PLA preparatory course, right?

No, it wasn't a PLA preparatory course. I don't think ESC has one. It was a PLA for a Saylor biology course.


TESU portfolio tips - sanantone - 03-19-2016

I never received a response from the Bursar, so I emailed Marc Singer.

Me: Hello Mr. Singer,

I sent this email to the Bursar, but never received a response. I am an enrolled student under the Per Credit Tuition Plan. Since I have previously completed a PLA at Empire State College, I was told that I wouldn't have to complete PLA-100 and PLA-200. Does that mean that I only pay $379 to have the first 12-credit portfolio evaluated?

Thank you,

Singer:Haven't we had this conversation before? You won't need to take PLA-100 either way. As for PLA-200, it provides the structure and the guidance for completing portfolios successfully. If you have done a portfolio elsewhere, you get the basic idea, but there are things specific to TESU's process that are built into PLA-200. So you really need to do PLA-200 to get through the process.

On the other hand, we treat our students as self-directed adults. If you insist on doing the portfolio process without our guidance, we won't stop you. But it's like trying to assemble a piece of furniture to someone else's specs without reading the instructions. There's no second attempts if you get it wrong, aside from the possibility that you omitted something. The fees we charge for the evaluation goes to the subject matter experts who evaluate the portfolios; if you need to resubmit something, it needs to be read again, and it means we need to pay them again.

Tell me what you are really trying to figure out here, and let me see if I can help you. It would be better that way both for my staff and for you.

Best,
Marc Singer

Me: Marc Singer:

There is a student who insists that you have to pay for portfolios by credit hour if you don't take PLA-100 and PLA-200. It was my understanding that, if I completed an equivalent course or a PLA elsewhere, I could submit a 12-credit portfolio for $379. I know I qualify to submit a portfolio without taking the PLA courses, but I want to know if the cost is different.

Regards,

Singer: That student might be thinking about the Single-Course 12-week process. It's our old process but we keep it around for students who just need one course through portfolio. In that model, the per-credit cost is a little less than the regular online course charge. And you don't need PLA-200 for that, since the portfolio development is built in. But it's not cost-effective if you want to do more than one course that way. Otherwise I can't imagine what the student could be referring to.

As for the other part of your question, you're right, subject to the recommendations I made below. You could also look at the Open version of PLA-200 but it's no substitute for the mentor-led course.

Marc


TESU portfolio tips - tesu-acct-student - 03-21-2016

What is Marc's email address?