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RE: Department of Education gone? - freeloader - 12-04-2024
I don’t really have a problem with the government spending money to research problems with healthcare for racial and ethnic minorities, but to each their own.
I have a much greater problem with Trump spending $141 million of taxpayer money golfing, primarily at his courses and pocketing tens of millions of dollars in payments directly from the government.
I love the irony of the leader of the most expensive presidential administration in history complains so much about government wasting money.
I love the irony of Republican politicians who take credit for funding packages that they vote against. And then, they are the ones who load up bills with the most pork spending through the earmarking process. And then they have the gaul to go home to their districts and talk about how much they have done to help their constituents.
I feel bad for the people who are actually impacted, but part of me hopes Musk does what he says and cuts $2 trillion from the budget, just to show people what they actually voted for. One of Musk’s highest priorities (and one of the easiest things to cut, actually) for instance is $150 billion in VA funding that pays to operate rural clinics and pay VA medical practitioners. Most of those doctors, nurses, etc are on the GS payscale, and make considerably more than regular federal employees. When all those clinics close that the VA loses tens of thousands of medical professionals and there is no money to pay for veteran’s healthcare at public and private hospitals, maybe people will notice. Probably not though. It’s ok to let thousands of veterans suffer and die if it means preventing a professor from spending $100,000 to help better train psychologists who work with black patients.
There isn’t $2 trillion in the budget to cut, unless you make substantial cuts to the military, Social Security, Medicare, Medicaid, and Veterans’s healthcare and benefits. Realistically, there are going to have to be reductions in Medicare reimbursements (which is going to make it a lot harder for older people to get care as doctors drop Medicare patients), means testing of Social Security (since a tax increase on SS receipts seems off the table), administrative bodies that limit health spending at end of live (death panels)c wholesale cuts to the military, and a dramatic reduction in the Medicaid nursing home benefit. The last one probably does need to change, and that is coming from a confirmed Liberal. The laws surrounding long term care insurance and the 5-year spend down need to change. If you/your spouse have money, you need to pay for your nursing home care. The current laws allow wealthy and middle class people to shield millions of dollars from the clawback, while they are placed in Medicaid-funded nursing home beds. It’s absurd that we have a whole insurance industry (long term care) whose sole purpose it to allow people to protect assets before going on, essentially, welfare.
RE: Department of Education gone? - Ares - 12-04-2024
Give me a break cardiovascular health primarily has to do with diet, exercise and lifestyle. Being brainwashed about "racism" is a mental disorder not a medical condition that needs to be researched.
RE: Department of Education gone? - Jonathan Whatley - 12-04-2024
(12-04-2024, 08:00 AM)Ares Wrote: Give me a break cardiovascular health primarily has to do with diet, exercise and lifestyle.
Gender is a demographic and it's unambiguously clear to science and widely known to the general public that gender and gender-related factors are huge determinants of cardiovascular health e.g., men are at higher risk than women of coronary heart disease, while post-menopausal women are at higher risk than pre-menopausal women of cardiovascular disease.
Similar data as showing that gender is a factor in cardiovascular health show that race is a factor in cardiovascular health.
Department of Education gone? - NotJoeBiden - 12-04-2024
(12-04-2024, 08:19 AM)Jonathan Whatley Wrote:(12-04-2024, 08:00 AM)Ares Wrote: Give me a break cardiovascular health primarily has to do with diet, exercise and lifestyle.
Gender is a demographic and it's unambiguously clear to science and widely known to the general public that gender and gender-related factors are huge determinants of cardiovascular health e.g., men are at higher risk than women of coronary heart disease, while post-menopausal women are at higher risk than pre-menopausal women of cardiovascular disease.
Similar data as showing that gender is a factor in cardiovascular health show that race is a factor in cardiovascular health.
One would know this if they read the NIH funded research on the topic. Ooh the irony.
(12-04-2024, 08:00 AM)Ares Wrote: Give me a break cardiovascular health primarily has to do with diet, exercise and lifestyle. Being brainwashed about "racism" is a mental disorder not a medical condition that needs to be researched.
So you do support NIH funding for mental health research?
RE: Department of Education gone? - bluebooger - 12-04-2024
> men are at higher risk than women of coronary heart disease
but that's related to lifestyle
traditionally men do more manual labor and do more stressful work
> post-menopausal women are at higher risk than pre-menopausal women of cardiovascular disease
isn't that more due to age ?
its like saying older women are at higher risk than younger women of cardiovascular disease
RE: Department of Education gone? - Jonathan Whatley - 12-04-2024
(12-04-2024, 05:15 PM)bluebooger Wrote: > men are at higher risk than women of coronary heart disease
but that's related to lifestyle
traditionally men do more manual labor and do more stressful work
It looks like there's more to study here. In a 2023 Danish study in the European Journal of Preventive Cardiology, "The association between occupational physical activity and ischaemic heart disease was different among men and women. High physical activity at work was associated with around 45% higher risk of ischaemic heart disease in men, but with around 65% lower risk in women."
(12-04-2024, 05:15 PM)bluebooger Wrote: > post-menopausal women are at higher risk than pre-menopausal women of cardiovascular disease
isn't that more due to age ?
its like saying older women are at higher risk than younger women of cardiovascular disease
"Later age at natural menopause has been linked to […] reduced all-cause mortality, CVD, and cardiovascular death," per a 2020 American Heart Association scientific statement in the journal Circulation. In two matched women of the same age, one pre-menopausal one post-menopausal, the post-menopausal one will be at higher risk.
RE: Department of Education gone? - ss20ts - 12-05-2024
(12-04-2024, 05:15 PM)bluebooger Wrote: > men are at higher risk than women of coronary heart disease
but that's related to lifestyle
traditionally men do more manual labor and do more stressful work
> post-menopausal women are at higher risk than pre-menopausal women of cardiovascular disease
isn't that more due to age ?
its like saying older women are at higher risk than younger women of cardiovascular disease
Not because of age. It's due to hormone changes which cause a number of issues in women's bodies. Hormones regulate so many things in the body. All women do not experience peri-menopause and menopause at the same age. Both also last many years - can be over 10 years!
RE: Department of Education gone? - tdat314 - 12-06-2024
I don't know about anyone else, but this Ares poster is always rather nasty in response to things that they seemingly don't personally agree with. I feel like discourse should be less about randomly throwing in name-calling and off-handed insults and more about providing solid information on their opinions.
I don't really know how else to address this without PMing a mod, but i don't want to be the minority voice here and think i'm the majority.
RE: Department of Education gone? - LevelUP - 12-07-2024
(12-06-2024, 03:20 PM)tdat314 Wrote: I don't know about anyone else, but this Ares poster is always rather nasty in response to things that they seemingly don't personally agree with. I feel like discourse should be less about randomly throwing in name-calling and off-handed insults and more about providing solid information on their opinions.
I don't really know how else to address this without PMing a mod, but i don't want to be the minority voice here and think i'm the majority.
Report any posts that violate forum rules. Ideally, we try to keep the forum a friendly and helpful place.
It's not easy to keep this thread on topic without it devolving into Trump trolling, Elon trolling, or personal attacks.
Trying to get everyone to agree on $500 billion worth of cuts to the federal government is, to say the least, a monumental challenge.
However, there are some areas where both sides might find common ground, such as:
- Making some defense cuts.
- Reducing fraud, improper payments, and improving auditing oversight.
- Using technology to increase efficiency.
RE: Department of Education gone? - ifomonay - 12-08-2024
(12-05-2024, 11:49 AM)ss20ts Wrote:(12-04-2024, 05:15 PM)bluebooger Wrote: > men are at higher risk than women of coronary heart disease
but that's related to lifestyle
traditionally men do more manual labor and do more stressful work
> post-menopausal women are at higher risk than pre-menopausal women of cardiovascular disease
isn't that more due to age ?
its like saying older women are at higher risk than younger women of cardiovascular disease
Not because of age. It's due to hormone changes which cause a number of issues in women's bodies. Hormones regulate so many things in the body. All women do not experience peri-menopause and menopause at the same age. Both also last many years - can be over 10 years!
Yes, that's true. My cholesterol is way higher than my wife's. The doctor said that estrogen removes cholesterol from the blood. After menopause, that advantage goes away, and then genetics takes over. Maybe any MD's here can confirm.