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RE: We Have Moved on From the Basic “Big 3” Colleges and Now Have CBE Big 3 and Others - SophiaPrincess - 11-13-2023

(11-10-2023, 08:46 PM)LevelUP Wrote:
(11-10-2023, 01:18 PM)SophiaPrincess Wrote: UC has agreed to take 90 credit hours of Sophia transfer credit. Uncertain how UMPI treats Sophia courses.

Can you post a pdf/spreadsheet of what UC took as Sophia credit?

I don't see a Sophia or Study.com equivalency page.

Sorry the image of the transcript is not the best. University of the Cumberlands accepted 90 hours of Sophia and transferred my Sophia business courses for their matching UC courses rather than as 1XX electives as many other schools do,  including the Big 3. UC didn't transfer my CSM course. I'm uncertain if it would have transferred had my total Sophia credits subceeded 90 credits. 

It did take several emails to straighten out the transfer credit but the experience was far better than the ordeals I went through at other universities attempting to correct errors in the transcript evaluation. If you plan to appeal transcript evaluation errors at other schools involving Sophia credit, remember Sophia is DEAC accreditated.  DEAC is recognized by CHEA. Most of the other sites rely solely on ACE.


RE: We Have Moved on From the Basic “Big 3” Colleges and Now Have CBE Big 3 and Others - LevelUP - 11-14-2023

(11-13-2023, 11:57 PM)SophiaPrincess Wrote: Sorry the image of the transcript is not the best. University of the Cumberlands accepted 90 hours of Sophia and transferred my Sophia business courses for their matching UC courses rather than as 1XX electives as many other schools do,  including the Big 3. UC didn't transfer my CSM course. I'm uncertain if it would have transferred had my total Sophia credits subceeded 90 credits. 

It did take several emails to straighten out the transfer credit but the experience was far better than the ordeals I went through at other universities attempting to correct errors in the transcript evaluation. If you plan to appeal transcript evaluation errors at other schools involving Sophia credit, remember Sophia is DEAC accreditated.  DEAC is recognized by CHEA. Most of the other sites rely solely on ACE.

That transcript looks great!  

Did you get all your General ed filled by Sophia?  The Christian Faith looks like it's missing 3cr.

Does Cumberlands require you to pick a concentration for their business degrees, or is this optional?  How many credits are in the free electives, and what are the total credits for the degree?

How many courses would you have to complete at Cumberlands to graduate?


RE: We Have Moved on From the Basic “Big 3” Colleges and Now Have CBE Big 3 and Others - bjcheung77 - 11-14-2023

Wow, nice transfer credits from Sophia.org to U of Cumberlands... In regards to DEAC, I just commented about that here: https://www.degreeforum.net/mybb/Thread-MyWay-Transfer-Update-Non-degree-awarding-course-provider?pid=407811#pid407811


RE: We Have Moved on From the Basic “Big 3” Colleges and Now Have CBE Big 3 and Others - SophiaPrincess - 11-14-2023

(11-14-2023, 02:34 AM)LevelUP Wrote:
(11-13-2023, 11:57 PM)SophiaPrincess Wrote: Sorry the image of the transcript is not the best. University of the Cumberlands accepted 90 hours of Sophia and transferred my Sophia business courses for their matching UC courses rather than as 1XX electives as many other schools do,  including the Big 3. UC didn't transfer my CSM course. I'm uncertain if it would have transferred had my total Sophia credits subceeded 90 credits. 

It did take several emails to straighten out the transfer credit but the experience was far better than the ordeals I went through at other universities attempting to correct errors in the transcript evaluation. If you plan to appeal transcript evaluation errors at other schools involving Sophia credit, remember Sophia is DEAC accreditated.  DEAC is recognized by CHEA. Most of the other sites rely solely on ACE.

That transcript looks great!  The first transcript evaluation I've received that actually made sense.

Did you get all your General ed filled by Sophia?  I still need English 2, it's a lot of writing on Sophia.  The Christian Faith looks like it's missing 3cr. I asked about it but did not receive a reply.

Does Cumberlands require you to pick a concentration for their business degrees, or is this optional? 
You pick a major but they are broad.  The Academic Catalog clearly states all bachelors degrees require "restricted electives" or a minor  or an area of emphasis or professional training in addition to your major. The advisor says I need none of those. I wish this ambiguity was an anomoly. I have found admissions officers at most of the schools I've applied to provide incomplete and frequently inaccurate answers, if they answer at all.
How many credits are in the free electives, and what are the total credits for the degree?
120 credits for all bachelors except BA in education which is 128. BAS allows more transfer credit than BA or BS in business administration. I would need two more courses for the BS and at least two more for the BA. Is it worth it?  48 credits in unrestricted electives and 6 credits in upper level electives.
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How many courses would you have to complete at Cumberlands to graduate? 30 credit hours, 10 normal courses.
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There are inconsistencies within the Academic Catalog and between the advisor and the catalog. I have found this to occur commonly when I applied to other universities as well. The biggest difference between UC and the other universities with whom I applied was attitude. At UC they seemed to want to help. The appelate process for transcript evaluation errors at other universities, including the Big 3, was opaque and adversarial.   Here is the current undergraduate catalog:
 
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Still wondering if I could finish UMPI faster and with a higher GPA? The earliest I can start UC is January 8th, UMPI 3/11. I like the flexibility of Sophia but I was unable to fly through the courses like many others here. My father requires me to read every word and watch every minute of video in the courses. That requirement will continue wherever I transfer. Is UMPI only faster if you skip the material you know and take the tests?


RE: We Have Moved on From the Basic “Big 3” Colleges and Now Have CBE Big 3 and Others - ss20ts - 11-14-2023

(11-14-2023, 03:05 PM)SophiaPrincess Wrote: Still wondering if I could finish UMPI faster and with a higher GPA? The earliest I can start UC is January 8th, UMPI 3/11. I like the flexibility of Sophia but I was unable to fly through the courses like many others here. My father requires me to read every word and watch every minute of video in the courses. That requirement will continue wherever I transfer. Is UMPI only faster if you skip the material you know and take the tests?

UMPI doesn't have tests. You can't skip the course material at UMPI. You have to write short answer essays to the Milestones at the end of each section/unit. The Milestones have to be approved by your professor before you can move to the Final Assessment. All Final Assessments are a paper, project, or PowerPoint presentation.


RE: We Have Moved on From the Basic “Big 3” Colleges and Now Have CBE Big 3 and Others - SophiaPrincess - 11-14-2023

(11-14-2023, 04:09 PM)ss20ts Wrote:
(11-14-2023, 03:05 PM)SophiaPrincess Wrote: Still wondering if I could finish UMPI faster and with a higher GPA? The earliest I can start UC is January 8th, UMPI 3/11. I like the flexibility of Sophia but I was unable to fly through the courses like many others here. My father requires me to read every word and watch every minute of video in the courses. That requirement will continue wherever I transfer. Is UMPI only faster if you skip the material you know and take the tests?

UMPI doesn't have tests. You can't skip the course material at UMPI. You have to write short answer essays to the Milestones at the end of each section/unit. The Milestones have to be approved by your professor before you can move to the Final Assessment. All Final Assessments are a paper, project, or PowerPoint presentation.

The correction is appreciated. I'm uncertain what types of projects one could be required to create beyond Power Points. Can you provide a few examples? Thank you.


RE: We Have Moved on From the Basic “Big 3” Colleges and Now Have CBE Big 3 and Others - ss20ts - 11-14-2023

(11-14-2023, 04:38 PM)SophiaPrincess Wrote: The correction is appreciated. I'm uncertain what types of projects one could be required to create beyond Power Points. Can you provide a few examples? Thank you.

You write a project just like you do at work - in Word sometimes add in some Excel tables. Depends on the class. Every class is different. Don't over think it.


RE: We Have Moved on From the Basic “Big 3” Colleges and Now Have CBE Big 3 and Others - LevelUP - 11-14-2023

(11-14-2023, 03:05 PM)SophiaPrincess Wrote: There are inconsistencies within the Academic Catalog and between the advisor and the catalog. I have found this to occur commonly when I applied to other universities as well. The biggest difference between UC and the other universities with whom I applied was attitude. At UC they seemed to want to help. The appelate process for transcript evaluation errors at other universities, including the Big 3, was opaque and adversarial.   Here is the current undergraduate catalog:
 
Still wondering if I could finish UMPI faster and with a higher GPA? The earliest I can start UC is January 8th, UMPI 3/11. I like the flexibility of Sophia but I was unable to fly through the courses like many others here. My father requires me to read every word and watch every minute of video in the courses. That requirement will continue wherever I transfer. Is UMPI only faster if you skip the material you know and take the tests?

I have added the University of the Cumberlands to the list of other colleges. The degrees there seem relatively easy to hack for max transfer credits. 

I assume that UC's structure is similar to SNHU's, where papers are due weekly for each course. Typically at SNHU, students take 2 or 3 courses per 8-week term, resulting in a completion time of 8 to 10 months for a degree.

UMPI usually requires 2 to 4 months to complete the 10 required courses, and students often achieve at least a 3.5 GPA. However, I'm uncertain about the GPA expectations at UC.