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RE: I need help figuring out how to finally obtain Bachelors, advice appreciated - dadof3 - 05-26-2023
You all have been so helpful already. I’m trying to now figure out how my credits might look for TESU (I’m still waiting to hear back from WGU about what switching my major would look like there). For TESU BLS Comp Sci I think I’m missing:
- COM 209
- SOS 110
- 6 credits for I B
- I think HIS 101, ENG 205, PHI 101, HIS 201, MGT 270 meet I C?
- for I D would CPT 102 and CPT 264 fit?
- do I have anything that fits for II A?
- I don’t fully understand II B, do I have anything that would fit here?
- need to do LIB 495
- would my other 30 credits of electives be met for III?
Thanks for input!
(05-25-2023, 04:55 PM)origamishuttle Wrote:Where did they slot the macro originally? Thanks!(05-25-2023, 03:57 PM)rachel83az Wrote: You need both macro and micro economics for it to count for a UMPI business degree. If you only have macro, take micro at Sophia.
Originally I transferred only macro from Sophia, and it came in as ECO 207. Later I transferred micro from Sophia, but that came in as ECO 207, while macro changed to an elective. So maybe macro is enough? But that was probably just an anomaly.
RE: I need help figuring out how to finally obtain Bachelors, advice appreciated - rachel83az - 05-26-2023
I wouldn't go with the BALS Comp Sci at TESU. It's one of the more difficult BALS degrees, as far as requirements go, and you essentially get none of the benefits of a Comp Sci degree. Either get the real BACS or a straight BALS with no concentration. Or the Natural Science & Mathematics concentration.
If you're afraid of Calculus, I think you should at least try Precalc/Calculus on Sophia before giving up. Sophia is not that bad for math classes.
Also, make sure you're looking at https://degreeforum.miraheze.org/wiki/Sample_TESU_General_Education_Requirements_Roadmap and not the official TESU site. The wiki is a bit clearer on what's allowed/accepted and what's not. For instance, COM-2090 - Public Speaking: Take Presentation Skills in the Workplace from Study.com instead of Public Speaking from anywhere else. It's the easiest way to meet the requirement. Pretty much anything at Sophia or Study.com is going to be a good choice over anything from TESU itself.
RE: I need help figuring out how to finally obtain Bachelors, advice appreciated - dadof3 - 05-26-2023
(05-26-2023, 08:54 AM)rachel83az Wrote: I wouldn't go with the BALS Comp Sci at TESU. It's one of the more difficult BALS degrees, as far as requirements go, and you essentially get none of the benefits of a Comp Sci degree. Either get the real BACS or a straight BALS with no concentration. Or the Natural Science & Mathematics concentration.Thanks for this feedback. Between the 3 previously suggested (UMPI, TESU, Excelsior), does a particular degree from one of them (or elsewhere) stand out as closer to complete with my credits now listed? That’s what I’ve been trying to figure out—which direction would require the least new credits or effort/time/$.
If you're afraid of Calculus, I think you should at least try Precalc/Calculus on Sophia before giving up. Sophia is not that bad for math classes.
Also, make sure you're looking at https://degreeforum.miraheze.org/wiki/Sample_TESU_General_Education_Requirements_Roadmap and not the official TESU site. The wiki is a bit clearer on what's allowed/accepted and what's not. For instance, COM-2090 - Public Speaking: Take Presentation Skills in the Workplace from Study.com instead of Public Speaking from anywhere else. It's the easiest way to meet the requirement. Pretty much anything at Sophia or Study.com is going to be a good choice over anything from TESU itself.
RE: I need help figuring out how to finally obtain Bachelors, advice appreciated - rachel83az - 05-26-2023
I don't see any upper-level credits earned (though I could be mistaken), so Excelsior is probably slightly further away than either TESU or UMPI. Excelsior requires 30 UL credits. They also charge you $300 for each evaluation after the first, so it can quickly get expensive if you're not able to hit their requirements after the first or second evaluation.
Your CompTIA certificates may be worth credits at TESU, depending on when they were completed: https://www2.tesu.edu/oplr/company.php?client=CompTIA I think these would count as Additional AOS Electives for a BACS at TESU? Your CPT courses will most likely count as LL electives/requirements for the BACS, too.
For UMPI, I don't think you're that close right now, but you could easily fill in the missing GEC requirements with a 1-2 month subscription to Sophia. You would, at the very least, need: 2 sciences (one physical, one biological), 1 science lab, 1 foreign language.
RE: I need help figuring out how to finally obtain Bachelors, advice appreciated - origamishuttle - 05-26-2023
(05-26-2023, 07:54 AM)dadof3 Wrote: Where did they slot the macro originally? Thanks!
Sophia macro came in as ECO 207 by itself. I expected it to come in as an elective because you're supposed to have both micro and macro, but I only had macro. You can always try and see how your macro transfers in; you could be lucky and have it come in as ECO 207, but it will probably come in as an elective. If so, then as Rachel suggested you can complete micro at Sophia and transfer that to get the ECO 207 credit.
RE: I need help figuring out how to finally obtain Bachelors, advice appreciated - bjcheung77 - 05-26-2023
@dadof3, you're pretty much 'stranded' and similar distance to finishing at any of the three... You'll need about the same energy, time to complete a degree at any of them. Most of the time, people focus on the credits and wanting to transfer in the max, thinking that would bring them closer. It really boils down to the last 30 credits, where you can finish fastest... You need to create a spreadsheet of all 3 universities you want to continue at and then place the credits you have remaining. In brief, depending on your energy, time allocated to complete the journey, it'll be close to this...
Excelsior - 8 weeks ACE/NCCRS, 8 weeks Info Lit/Cornerstone, 8 weeks Capstone, example time of 24 weeks. Cost is $4K at EU plus whatever you will be paying for ACE/NCCRS, you can take from several providers to get the 24 UL you need, plus cornerstone/capstone.
TESU - 8 weeks ACE/NCCRS, 12 weeks for Cornerstone/Capstone combo with an example time of 20 weeks. Cost is $3K plus another $3288 for the residency waiver fee, unless you decide to play with 16 credits in the 12 week term. I think it's too much for most people to complete 16 credits.
UMPI - 4 weeks ACE credits for up to 90 credit transfer, 7 weeks first session, if you need a second session, another 7 weeks. Each session is $1400, pretend it'll take two sessions. You're looking at 18 weeks total for example and you're paying $2800 at UMPI plus anything else you need for the ACE credits.
Just by looking at that, you most likely get the best bang for the buck with transferring your remaining credits to UMPI from Sophia or another provider (1 month at $99 may do the trick). Complete the remaining credits in two sessions, if you need a third for some odd reason, you're just at $4200 and at 25 weeks total time. My recommendation once again is UMPI BABA PM&IS...
RE: I need help figuring out how to finally obtain Bachelors, advice appreciated - dadof3 - 05-26-2023
(05-26-2023, 10:27 AM)bjcheung77 Wrote: @dadof3, you're pretty much 'stranded' and similar distance to finishing at any of the three... You'll need about the same energy, time to complete a degree at any of them. Most of the time, people focus on the credits and wanting to transfer in the max, thinking that would bring them closer. It really boils down to the last 30 credits, where you can finish fastest... You need to create a spreadsheet of all 3 universities you want to continue at and then place the credits you have remaining. In brief, depending on your energy, time allocated to complete the journey, it'll be close to this...
Excelsior - 8 weeks ACE/NCCRS, 8 weeks Info Lit/Cornerstone, 8 weeks Capstone, example time of 24 weeks. Cost is $4K at EU plus whatever you will be paying for ACE/NCCRS, you can take from several providers to get the 24 UL you need, plus cornerstone/capstone.
TESU - 8 weeks ACE/NCCRS, 12 weeks for Cornerstone/Capstone combo with an example time of 20 weeks. Cost is $3K plus another $3288 for the residency waiver fee, unless you decide to play with 16 credits in the 12 week term. I think it's too much for most people to complete 16 credits.
UMPI - 4 weeks ACE credits for up to 90 credit transfer, 7 weeks first session, if you need a second session, another 7 weeks. Each session is $1400, pretend it'll take two sessions. You're looking at 18 weeks total for example and you're paying $2800 at UMPI plus anything else you need for the ACE credits.
Just by looking at that, you most likely get the best bang for the buck with transferring your remaining credits to UMPI from Sophia or another provider (1 month at $99 may do the trick). Complete the remaining credits in two sessions, if you need a third for some odd reason, you're just at $4200 and at 25 weeks total time. My recommendation once again is UMPI BABA PM&IS...
Thanks, this is a lot easier to grasp written out like this.
Does this look about right for the BABA PM&IS?
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1EzuCHC9EkkOMegmZIBLMhedPKclxf5e07_CAxOR5JkY/edit?usp=sharing
RE: I need help figuring out how to finally obtain Bachelors, advice appreciated - bjcheung77 - 05-26-2023
dadof3 Wrote:Thanks, this is a lot easier to grasp written out like this.
Does this look about right for the BABA PM&IS?
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1EzuCHC9EkkOMegmZIBLMhedPKclxf5e07_CAxOR5JkY/edit?usp=sharing
Yes, Similar to that, I would reference the WIKI here: https://degreeforum.miraheze.org/wiki/UMPI_BABA_Project_Management_Degree_Plan
Make sure to take all the required Coursera and/or Sophia.org, then move to Study.com and finish at UMPI
RE: I need help figuring out how to finally obtain Bachelors, advice appreciated - LevelUP - 05-26-2023
(05-26-2023, 11:57 AM)dadof3 Wrote: Thanks, this is a lot easier to grasp written out like this.
Does this look about right for the BABA PM&IS?
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1EzuCHC9EkkOMegmZIBLMhedPKclxf5e07_CAxOR5JkY/edit?usp=sharing
BUS 141 I would do Sophia Project Management since that is a fast course
Also, do Sophia business law for one of your UL electives
https://degreeforum.miraheze.org/wiki/UMPI_BLS_Management_Degree_Plan
RE: I need help figuring out how to finally obtain Bachelors, advice appreciated - rachel83az - 05-27-2023
Do NOT do Sophia's Project Management if you are going for the BABA Project Management. You will be missing crucial information that will slow you down when you take the two successive UL Project Management courses at UMPI.