MA2 Wrote:He alone, who owns the youth, gains the future. -Adolf Hitler

PonyGirl93 Wrote:OK people, I'm in favor of homeschooling, thinking for yourself, etc etc., but this whole übermensch thing is just ridiculous. Homeschoolers are not inherently better, nor does being taught to think for yourself mean that you are not going to ever fall into a trap. I think that a lot of homeschooling people, in trying to teach their kids to think for themselves, only succeed in making them think exactly like them. Not all kids that went to public school are mindless drones. Homeschoolers are not the saviours of the universe, in fact there are a lot of really serious issues with the entire mindset of the generation (narcissism, anyone?)

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cookderosa Wrote:Yes, I've ranted on this from time to time (personally leaning heavily to the right). In a few cases, I just flat out did the assignment withough argument. In 3 cases I had trouble. Case 1 was as a student in TESC's Management of Stress and Tension class. I don't know why, but that was one of the more liberal courses I took! In one chapter I remember them being very anti-marriage (I'm happily married 18 years) and I questioned this position in our forum. If memory serves, the author was an unmarried person (WTH?) but the teacher totally zoned right in on me and point by point attacked my perspective. I let it go, pulled a high A and moved on with my life. In case 2 it was a a Contemporary Social Issues course. It was taught by 3 lefties (a NOW board member, an openly gay man, and a female who was clearly left but not nearly as vocal to our class). Anyway, we had to write an essay using the prompt (paraphrasing from memory) "Explain the ways in which President Bush has ruined our country" lol. Uh, excuse me? I handled that very politically, picking on a tiny thing and just going with it- it didn't matter, I wasn't going to change their mind and it wasn't going to be shared with the student body. But the third case was in a philosophy class. My paper was being graded by a 20-something teaching assistant, and for some reason my first assignment sent her into a tizzy. It wasn't even a heavy issue hilarious but her critique of my essay was LONGER than my essay. lol, I knew I had to drop- I wasn't going to play along. I did write a short letter to the dept, but I'm sure it got nowhere since no one even followed up or acknowledged my email.

My perspective, is that I'm a 40 year old woman who knows who she is. Yes, I have a world view like everyone else that could always be expanded, but I'm not searching to learn about the world in the way a young person is. My children, while I like to see them explore the issues of our world, need to skip the crap. In my opinion, the social sciences are worth CLEPping because it's a roll of the dice. (and that's what my degree is in!) It's not a case of seeing the world, knowing both sides, expanding your mind blah blah blah. I TEACH my kids to think, argue and challenge. However, there are social science teachers who have absolutely NO INTEREST in discussing both sides, probing your thought process and showing you a new idea-they are only interested in evangelizing and selling their kool-aid. The student who disagrees is called out and the grade suffers. Some aspects of earning a degree can be such a waste of time and money and brain space.

I plan to use teachers as little a possible- that's both in our homeschool and extending to college. My kids don't need their information filtered. I, however, find it amusing now that my grade doesn't hang in the balance. When you are in it, however, it's a desperately frustrating situation to keep your mouth shut.

PonyGirl93 Wrote:OK people, I'm in favor of homeschooling, thinking for yourself, etc etc., but this whole übermensch thing is just ridiculous. Homeschoolers are not inherently better, nor does being taught to think for yourself mean that you are not going to ever fall into a trap. I think that a lot of homeschooling people, in trying to teach their kids to think for themselves, only succeed in making them think exactly like them. Not all kids that went to public school are mindless drones. Homeschoolers are not the saviours of the universe, in fact there are a lot of really serious issues with the entire mindset of the generation (narcissism, anyone?)

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ryoder Wrote:People need to stop looking at statistics of income versus gender or color of skin and look at individual people.
Of course women make less than men. Its due to biology. I know many many women who went to college, got a job, worked 2-5 years and left for 10 years to raise a family. They are heroes in my opinion. But they do sacrifice earning potential to be the primary care giver.

Also I see women take more responsibility at home and leave meetings at 4:45 pm in order to be able to be home with the kids while their husbands work til 7pm. Its a culture thing. Men typically value achievement at work more than women do and women value forming bonds and relationships more than men. Its what makes us human. Read Men are From Mars and Women are From Venus and you will see that women are different than men.

Plenty of women make more than plenty of men. My boss is a woman and she makes a lot more than I do I am sure of that. Her husband stays at home with the kids and if he went back into the workforce he would make a third of her salary.

Scholar Interrupted Wrote:This article from Town Hall (full disclosure: I'm not a liberal) got me thinking. The article lists a few questions and answers from a recent sociology exam, and the questions bear an obvious and significant anti-US bias. Those of you on the left may believe the bias is justified. But I don't think anyone could deny that the bias is there and the questions are not designed to elicit original thought by the student.

OE800_85 Wrote:Also, I think people are dramatizing a bit when they say a professor will fail them for not coinciding with their beliefs, I call bullshit on that, anyone who acts in such a way should not be a teacher. If that happened, i'm sure there would be bigger scandals and even legal recourse against the schools, and it'd be huge news..

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Let's take a moment to look at Socialism, shall we? The hotbed of it, is not where most people think it comes from. Cuba's corrupt and poor, and China's more capitalist than America by a long ways. It's basically EVERY developed Western nation except America. (Western/Northern Europe, Canada, Japan, Australia)

People in these countries:
Pay next to nothing for great education
Have strict employment policies that protect the employee
Get free, high quality medical care
Receive 1 year maternity leave
Have a large middle class that has a say in how their gov't operates
Have much fewer problems with race/gender discrimination

That's not so bad, is it?


Also, I think people are dramatizing a bit when they say a professor will fail them for not coinciding with their beliefs, I call bullshit on that, anyone who acts in such a way should not be a teacher. If that happened, i'm sure there would be bigger scandals and even legal recourse against the schools, and it'd be huge news.

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