(09-26-2017, 03:06 AM)sanantone Wrote:

(09-26-2017, 01:22 AM)RANSOMSOUL Wrote:

(09-26-2017, 12:04 AM)dfrecore Wrote:

(09-25-2017, 08:52 PM)RANSOMSOUL Wrote: Saying no one asks for Leadership degree is insinuating most are asking for an MBA, while in actuality, most are asking for a Masters degree and at best 'preferred MBA'.

I wasn't saying that everyone is asking for an MBA (although many do) - they just don't specifically ever ask for a Masters in Leadership.

You are locked in and I can appreciate this, my only counter would be wondering where you are getting this information that 'many do'. I have business partnerships now in 9 countries with large organizations (average over 2,000 employees) and there isn't this heavy search for MBAs going on these days. We all appreciate them but it's far from the lead interest when hiring. And, the strength of the position that no one ever asks for a Leadership degree isn't a narrative that fits as a value against getting one. Rarely do you see a request for a Degree in Finance but 'rarely', we would agree does not define the degree.

Again, my comments are more for the future reader interested in some degree that is different than what might be expected and encouraging them to do their own research and let their talent outshine the competition.

Just in case it was lost somewhere in these or other threads; I think an MBA is the most recognizable degree and there is a true value in that over other Master degrees. I could have lead with that but then I might have missed out on this thread

I see degrees in finance asked for all the time.

Are MBAs asked for by most employers? First we have to determine which field or type of employer and the level of the position (supervisor, manager, mid-level manager, senior manager, executive, etc.). In my field, almost no one asks for an MBA, and that is to be expected. It's criminal justice and social services. Once the field is determined, one would have to look at all the job openings, at least in the local area, and see if the majority require or prefer an MBA.

If you're just doing a keyword search for "MBA," then you will get a lot of hits in a large city. I received 409 in my city. I think that says enough about the marketability of the degree.

(09-26-2017, 11:00 AM)jessikalauren Wrote: I'm not speaking from experience (yet) but I suppose it depends on what you'd like to do with your degree and what you like studying.  I've followed the posts of many people who have posted here (ransomsoul especially, as well as dfrecore and sanantone, etc) and my plan is to start with the MSML degree at WGU.  

I had essentially decided I would do the MBA, because it seems to hold the most weight, but my last few business courses in my undergrad were especially tough on me. Since I plan to run straight into a grad program I am going to do the one that has more writing than testing. I'm not saying I'm not willing to put in the hard work to reach the finish line, but at this point in my life (I'm 30, married and work 60+ hours) it will be nice to have the master's degree on the resume.

Like another poster mentioned, the MBA and MSML at WGU overlap by almost half, so students often pursue both.  That's my plan (in the back of my mind of course, I also really want to be done with school) because I like the idea of having two master's degrees for the time and money cost that others will spend on one.

(09-26-2017, 10:22 AM)RANSOMSOUL Wrote:

(09-26-2017, 03:06 AM)sanantone Wrote:

(09-26-2017, 01:22 AM)RANSOMSOUL Wrote:

(09-26-2017, 12:04 AM)dfrecore Wrote:

(09-25-2017, 08:52 PM)RANSOMSOUL Wrote: Saying no one asks for Leadership degree is insinuating most are asking for an MBA, while in actuality, most are asking for a Masters degree and at best 'preferred MBA'.

I wasn't saying that everyone is asking for an MBA (although many do) - they just don't specifically ever ask for a Masters in Leadership.

You are locked in and I can appreciate this, my only counter would be wondering where you are getting this information that 'many do'. I have business partnerships now in 9 countries with large organizations (average over 2,000 employees) and there isn't this heavy search for MBAs going on these days. We all appreciate them but it's far from the lead interest when hiring. And, the strength of the position that no one ever asks for a Leadership degree isn't a narrative that fits as a value against getting one. Rarely do you see a request for a Degree in Finance but 'rarely', we would agree does not define the degree.

Again, my comments are more for the future reader interested in some degree that is different than what might be expected and encouraging them to do their own research and let their talent outshine the competition.

Just in case it was lost somewhere in these or other threads; I think an MBA is the most recognizable degree and there is a true value in that over other Master degrees. I could have lead with that but then I might have missed out on this thread

I see degrees in finance asked for all the time.

Are MBAs asked for by most employers? First we have to determine which field or type of employer and the level of the position (supervisor, manager, mid-level manager, senior manager, executive, etc.). In my field, almost no one asks for an MBA, and that is to be expected. It's criminal justice and social services. Once the field is determined, one would have to look at all the job openings, at least in the local area, and see if the majority require or prefer an MBA.

If you're just doing a keyword search for "MBA," then you will get a lot of hits in a large city. I received 409 in my city. I think that says enough about the marketability of the degree.

Come one...Your space allows for a Finance Degree to be more common with positions like Financial Investigators. I have never seen a Degree in CJ but that is just highly uncommon in medical. With that being said, I promise you that a Masters in CJ would do just fine sitting for an opportunity requiring a Masters 'preferred MBA' if their overall experience matched up well. This differentiating factor may actually play as one of the stronger attributes of the candidate.

Not sure on the angle of your big city search works when, if you just do the same search requiring a Masters degree, it would be several times larger and that would speak for itself that a Masters in anything is most important. Again, I am only staying in this very small, big city + degree search = marketability formula.

Where I do see some stronger value for an MBA is ones with concentrations like Finance, IT, Healthcare. This is also why if we stay in the lane of only a focused field, there are plenty of specialized Masters that will battle just fine with an MBA.

Bringing it back to the MBA vs MS Leadership, I would say a candidate with an MBA probably would win out but the same example with a person with an MBA vs MSM or MBML (experience equal), that candidate will do just fine in the marketplace.