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A bit lost and need some advice/help thanks! - cookderosa - 06-30-2017
BearEDU Wrote:Hi,
Thank you for clarifying those things for me.
Some more questions =)
If I transfer in my CUNY school credits 29 into TESU will those disappear? Will i not be able to use those to apply to a cuny school later on to get another bachelors when i graduate from TESU BSBA General Management?
What would happen if lets say I enroll into TESU and half way I decide to go back to Cuny, will my original 29 credits from the Cuny school still count?
For capstone does it reqiure you to do anything special? For example in BSBA General mangement or Liberal studies.
Thanks for your help.
Also your spread sheet is amazing!
I hope I don't come across as rude, but you're not picking up a gallon of milk. All of the degrees - TESU or otherwise, will undoubtedly take more planning, time, and cost than you think. While there might be a handful of members here with more than 1 undergrad degree, how many thousands of dollars do you have to throw at this? I'll say it once again then I'll shut up - but picking up Liberal Studies vs something else won't amount to much difference in terms of time or money. Also, why the fasination with CUNY? Same accreditation as TESU. Why not get your CUNY degree first and then get your second degree from TESU? (rhetoical question).
A bit lost and need some advice/help thanks! - BearEDU - 06-30-2017
I take in all advice =). You don't come across rude. I understand what you are saying about picking up multiple degrees.
At the moment I'm between BSBA General management or BA in Liberal studies to be the first one I will be taking more people tend to take General management and it seems more exciting so I'm leaning to that one as I can use it for something else as well. Liberal studies looks more broad and will be easier to complete i could be wrong.
I'm looking to fulfill majority of my credits with test out and my current credits so I can get a full time job at my current company. I've been part time there for so long and the only thing holding me back is a bachelors they said ANY bachelors will do as long as its from a regional accredited college/uni. Then from there I can work towards learning some thing new to earn a BA in the IT field. I just don't have the self confident in myself to go straight into IT. But I need something now to push my life forward a bit.
I tried the whole going to a BM school(Cuny) the format with my schedules just doesn't work. It will take me ~3-4 yrs to complete if i were to go back. TBH I'm more fascinated by how we can earn a degree cheaper+faster now with distance learning. I asked about the Cuny things because I was confused by how credits would work .would the credits get absorbed etc.. and would I be unable to use it to apply to lets say WGU later on if i used it to enroll at TESU. But some one else here clarified it for me.
Atm I'm calculating my savings + funding to figure out the cost and what is my plan. I still have no idea which one to go for first BSBA General management or BA In Liberal Studies. But all i know is I'm going to follow the other users advice with the free credits and get myself into that learning style. I have till May 2018 to lock in the catalog. So from now till then i will try to take as much credits as i can.
A bit lost and need some advice/help thanks! - bjcheung77 - 06-30-2017
sanantone Wrote:I don't know where you're getting this information from. TESU has a limit of two associates degrees and two bachelors degrees. Not every school has this limit. As I have noted, there is a guy with 14 associates degrees from various community colleges. Excelsior will allow for a third bachelors degree; they don't care how many associates degrees you have when applying for the third bachelors. For example, I can have two associates and two bachelors from TESU and one bachelors from Excelsior, and that will total five undergraduate degrees.
bjcheung77 Wrote:For RA schools, you can transfer up to 90 credits from one degree program to another school and finish up by taking 30 credits. If you decide to continue at the same school, you can do the 90 credits that satisfy both degree requirements, finish a degree and complete 24-30 credits in the second degree.
You can get more than 4 undergraduates degrees, but the subsequent ones would need to come from NA schools accredited by DEAC for example as they don't have a limit. For example what I wanted to do, RA TESU ASNSM Biology, ASBA & BSBA, WGU BSIT, and an NA Nations University Bachelors in Biblical Studies for cheap.
Honestly, if you read my info, I am going for similar than what I have mentioned above, minus the Nations University degree.
I noticed you did a few courses from Davar? How many did you get done and how many credits in total are you into your degree(s)?
I spent the bulk of my cash on Straighterline coming in with 94 credits for about $12/credit, 2 courses didn't go into my degree plan.
Sorry, I should have been more clear when typing the info above. You're correct, TESU has 4 undergraduate degree limit (as you mentioned 2 associates, 2 bachelors), and I was using myself as an example, if I wanted to have a fifth degree, it would be from another university such as WGU (RA) or NationsU (NA).
Come to think of it, I really wanted the BALS as well! A similar plan! So, it would be RA TESU ASNSM Biology ladder to BALS, ASBA ladder to BSBA GM!
The strange thing is, I've been thinking about that last year when I started this journey from 0 credits to current 100+ credits and I think it's a possibility...
Just to use the general education electives and free electives carefully to score all 4 degrees for the price of 1 residency waiver and 2 graduation fees! I actually have a template for a BALS and a BSBA completed in sync with each other. I can follow those two spreadsheet templates and I should be good to go.
I looked at the two BALS/BSBA degrees in detail and the general education requirements has just 1 course difference. The BALS has a 27 credit FREE electives that can mean any course, the BSBA degree has 24 Business Requirement Credits - that's the direct swap there, 90 credits! The only two courses I will need are the two different capstones and basically, 24-30 credits in a new "area of study" in the BALS. For those 30 credits, I'll use the Saylor/Shmoop combo.
A bit lost and need some advice/help thanks! - dfrecore - 07-01-2017
BearEDU Wrote:At the moment I'm between BSBA General management or BA in Liberal studies to be the first one I will be taking more people tend to take General management and it seems more exciting so I'm leaning to that one as I can use it for something else as well. Liberal studies looks more broad and will be easier to complete i could be wrong.
Atm I'm calculating my savings + funding to figure out the cost and what is my plan. I still have no idea which one to go for first BSBA General management or BA In Liberal Studies. But all i know is I'm going to follow the other users advice with the free credits and get myself into that learning style. I have till May 2018 to lock in the catalog. So from now till then i will try to take as much credits as i can.
You might think that a BALS is the easier degree, but honestly, it depends on what your strengths are.
You've talked about getting 2 degrees, without even making the first step towards your FIRST degree. I have a hard time with that, because really, life happens, and if you plan on getting a check-the-box degree with the hopes that you'll get a second degree afterwards, that might be difficult. It's much easier to just plan on getting the degree that you want right up front.
If your ultimate goal is to get a BSIT at WGU, then go for it. Really, it might take you just as long and cost the same to get the BALS or BSBA, so what would be the point? It's not like the TESU degree will take you 2 months, and the WGU degree will take you 2 years, so it's easy to go with TESU. BOTH of the schools will take time, both will accept outside credits, both will take a lot of effort on your part.
If it were me, I would probably just spend my time learning the things you actually want to learn, and start testing out of the WGU BSIT degree, both with the courses you need, and some certifications you might want to get. By the time you get to actually enrolling with all of the available credits you can bring in, you'll be more prepared to go forward with the degree and the harder courses.
A bit lost and need some advice/help thanks! - tesu-acct-student - 07-01-2017
dfrecore Wrote:... You've talked about getting 2 degrees, without even making the first step towards your FIRST degree. I have a hard time with that, because really, life happens, and if you plan on getting a check-the-box degree with the hopes that you'll get a second degree afterwards, that might be difficult. It's much easier to just plan on getting the degree that you want right up front.
If your ultimate goal is to get a BSIT at WGU, then go for it...
If it were me, I would probably just spend my time learning the things you actually want to learn, and start testing out of the WGU BSIT degree, both with the courses you need, and some certifications you might want to get.
I totally agree with this.
To the OP, I've been where you are and I remember struggling with the second bachelor's question, but please believe me when I say that it is a distraction. I urge you to stop thinking about the second bachelor's. Focus your time and attention exclusively on the first one.
Planning for the second bachelors right now is actually creating a road block, it is stopping you from forward progress. You have no idea what life will throw your way in a few years. Plus, once you get the bachelor's, you may have confidence for grad school... this is what happened to me. Grad school for accounting seemed like a pipe dream. As it turns out, I have decided against a second bachelor's and am going to grad school for an MS in accountancy instead. Super excited about that decision and the first bachelor's made it possible.
Who knows how it will all work out for you... but it appears that you have two things to consider:
1) Stop thinking about the second bachelor's. It is a waste of time right now. Focus exclusively on the first bachelor's until it is completed.
2) Focus on a bachelor's that is most compatible with your long term plans.
A bit lost and need some advice/help thanks! - BearEDU - 07-01-2017
Hey dfrecore&tesu acct student
You guys are right I just got absorbed with the whole distance learning. The hope/ joys of the people attaining multiple bachelors on this forums got to me.
I'm going to settle with getting my TESU BSBA General management. It fits me more with where I want to go with a bachelors and it will give me the ability to get a full time position at my current company. I will work on fulfilling all the test out requirements for BSBA General management + work on passing some comp certs. I aim to enroll in may 2018 at TESU to lock in the catalog.
After i get the BSBA General management i can think of pursuing a masters later in IT or business at WGU or at TESU depending on where I want to go in life. But for now i need to get that first degree!
I looked over BALS and it just doesn't seem to fit me as much as what i want in BSBA General mangement.
Having something in business first + then IT is what i realized what i want. Thank you guys for helping me realized this. I was really lost.
Atm i think my first step is math with ALEKS. I really hope ACE renews!
Time to work my butt off. Im going to use the spreadsheet some one posted here. I just have to figure out which 29 credits i ahve will transfer into TESU BSBA General management.
A bit lost and need some advice/help thanks! - rvm - 07-01-2017
BearEDU Wrote:so from reading more threads it seems like my option should be to sign up for ACE. Then sign up for ALEKS to get some math credits. What im lacking the most is Math credits. Then from there decide what transfer over. It seems like TESU changed alot over the years and its getting harder. Charter Oak State College seems a bit easier as they accept more credits going in. Though I seem to prefer TESU
Slowly! Im getting there!. Does these college credits from TESU or COSC ever transfer to another university or cuny schools like http://www.baruch.cuny.edu/
Don't register for ALEKS just yet, unless you simply want to practice your math skills. Their courses are no longer ACE recommended. I think I read they will probably try to get recertified as it seems a good portion of their business comes from persons needing ACE recommended credits. But if you were planning to use ALEKS for your math credits, you will need to wait until ALEKS becomes recertified.
If you need a math refreshers, there are free resources to study for CLEP or DSST exams or to supplement and simplify Saylor.org or Straighterline (frequently denoted on this forum as SL). I've found Khan Academy to be a superior resource. The videos are clear and thorough and you can practice until your heart is content - all for FREE! As well, I think Texas A&M might have a free interactive math lab as well. I thought I had it bookmarked but can't seem to locate the link.
On a side note, you probably want to blast through your degree like gang-busters. I'd like to offer some things for consideration.
I hope you don't think I'm being rude as that not my intention. You've got all these thoughts running rampant and you need to wade through them and set aside things you don't need at the current time. Simultaneously, there are questions you need answered to before you set your degree plan - which you should do before you begin taking courses or exams for credit. Like all plans, things can change, and almost definitely will, but at least your will have a road map to guide you.
Speaking of degree plans, there are several degree plans outlined (and detailed) on this forum. A search should provide you several plans from TESU(formerly TESC), COSC and maybe WGU as well as Excelsior. I think there may be an IT-related plan in the mix.
Sometimes the native forum search feature isn't the best way to locate information here. I've found Google Advanced Search using degreeforum.net as the only site searched, provides a significantly more focused search than trying to use the forum's search feature.
Read through the "sticky" threads on this forum. They are likely to help answer some of your questions, especially some of basics you're trying nail down.
Read through college catalogs for TESU, COSC, EXC, & WGU. Pay special attention to sources each particular institution will accept but know those can change unless you enroll prior to the college publishing a new catalog, which usually happens around this time of year.
You will likely find threads on this forum concerning TEEX, FEMA, NFA and other ways to able credit other than CLEP, DSST and online courses. Be very careful what you choose. TESU no longer accepts FEMAs and probably NFAs. Not sure if TESU accepts TEEX.
Also, be cognizant and careful of the order of courses you take. For example, if you take Calculus and then you decide you want to take College Algebra and subsequently take PreCalc, you will not receive credits for College Algebra and PreCalc because you already took Calculus. In most cases, if a course has a prereq, you need to fulfill the prereqs in order to get credits for all the courses.
For your dilemma as to multiple degrees and certifications, I would focus on one undergrad degree. There are plenty of masters-level certifications for IT-related needs - Villanova has several and I'm sure there are more. Currently, you feel you lack confidence, but you already have most of your first year done and once you complete some additional courses or take some CLEPs & DSSTs, your confidence level will rise. With the exception of a few tests or courses along the way, you shouldn't need any comp sci related credits until you have collected approximately 90 credits. By that time, your confidence level will be much higher. And if you're collecting a few IT certifications along the way, that should prove to you that you are capable of attaining a 4-year degree in a computer-related field.
I've been in software development for over 20 years. I'm now facing a similar situation as you. I need my 4-year degree to advance and move out of development and into a less stressful role. I'm currently not working, though searching for a part-time opportunity, so I can fund the completion of my degree. I can choose basically any degree I want because my work experience trumps my need for a Comp Sci or Info Systems degree in most instances. I'm drawing attention to most instances for a good reason. Your current employer may accept any degree and that's great... for now. However, what if you decide to change employers or like me and many other IT professionals, have been laid off or your company is sold or goes out of business? If you get a degree in a humanities and you want to be a developer, systems analyst, network engineer, etc., and you want or are forced to find work with a new company, and that happens prior to you collecting significant experience in your chosen field, your degree is likely to make a huge difference. When the economy tanks again - and it will - folks with degrees related to the jobs they seek will be significantly more employable than those with a degree not related. I recommend using indeed.com and searching for the job(s) you want and see what requirements (or strongly desire) companies are seeking in terms of education.
Good Luck!
A bit lost and need some advice/help thanks! - dfrecore - 07-01-2017
BearEDU Wrote:I'm going to settle with getting my TESU BSBA General management. It fits me more with where I want to go with a bachelors and it will give me the ability to get a full time position at my current company. I will work on fulfilling all the test out requirements for BSBA General management + work on passing some comp certs. I aim to enroll in may 2018 at TESU to lock in the catalog.
I still am not sure why you want the BSBA? I think you think that it's "easy" and faster than the BSIT, but I don't think that's the case at all. I think it could take you the same amount of time, and possibly less money, to get a BSIT at WGU.
A lot of people get a BSBA or BALS because it seems fast and easy, but that's not always necessarily the case. And mostly, it just depends on your ultimate goals.
You might be better off taking some courses/exams that will go towards your BSIT Technology Core, get the BOG AAS degree through Pierpont or WVNCC, use it to clear all of your Gen Ed's at WGU, and start on that degree at WGU. You would be shocked at how quickly you can do this, and how cheaply, if you choose the right degree the first time around.
A bit lost and need some advice/help thanks! - dfrecore - 07-01-2017
rvm Wrote:You will likely find threads on this forum concerning TEEX, FEMA, NFA and other ways to able credit other than CLEP, DSST and online courses. Be very careful what you choose. TESU no longer accepts FEMAs and probably NFAs. Not sure if TESU accepts TEEX.
Also, be cognizant and careful of the order of courses you take. For example, if you take Calculus and then you decide you want to take College Algebra and subsequently take PreCalc, you will not receive credits for College Algebra and PreCalc because you already took Calculus. In most cases, if a course has a prereq, you need to fulfill the prereqs in order to get credits for all the courses.
Good Luck!
TESU still accepts TEEX & NFA courses, plus PLENTY of other options (anything ACE-approved which all of these are). COSC is the only one that takes FEMA courses (not ACE-approved).
TESU does not have a policy about order of courses. I took Intermediate Algebra (MAT-115) then College Algebra (MAT-121) then Applied Liberal Arts Math (MAT-105) with no problems at all. I haven't heard about the others in that respect.
A bit lost and need some advice/help thanks! - BearEDU - 07-01-2017
I thought of going to IT because it was what every one recommended and I have some interest in it /know the basics. Don't definitely don't want to be a system engineer or network admin. Just entry IT level position which is doable with just high-school and certs but getting harder since everywhere else requires at least a bachelor's attached to it now.
Seeing tesu coursein general management though made me realized I really wanted to take those courses. It will be hard as well and the work is on me I will also learn something I have interest in.
I want a general office environment job tbh. Plus with the curriculum of general management it will help me with applying for different positions and etc. More available positions will open for me at my current work place. That's why I was thinking of general management and leaning more towards it. I'm still unsure of the cost between tesu or wgu. I just know with wgu it's 3k per term and I probably need longer than that. I'm still researching etc. Still unsure how will tesu catalog look like for 2017-2018