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Ivy Tech Community College of Indiana is a no go for Straigterline ACE Credits - CLEP_enthusiast - 08-16-2013
cookderosa Wrote:There are MANY schools that are a "no-go" for ACE. The thing about the ACE list that is floating around, is that it implies that if a college is on it, that they take all ACE credit. The reality is that they MAY take a specific type of ACE credit for a specific program and nothing more. For instance, my local CC accepts ACE credit. What they accept is a carpentry class toward the carpentry program. Nothing else, yet they are on "the list."
If you want wide acceptance of exam credit, you need to use CLEP, DSST, and AP. I'm a fan of ACE options if you know ahead of time where you're going, because then you're not wasting time/money. Of course we use some ACE options in our homeschool (ALEKS math, SL), but always with the understanding that they might not transfer later. My son earned 33 credits in high school/homeschool, yet only 3 will transfer into the CC he is attending. In your case, you may want to attempt the CLEPs associated with those classes you took. I know, pain in the rear.
Yes, a lot of schools on the list may or may not take the ACE credit. I got my local university too, after sending the links of the course content and other such to the division chair of mathematics, for credit for College Algebra and Trigonometry. My advice: be clear and be polite. Ask "is such and such equivalent to Math 130 at this institution". I find people very receptive to this.
All in all, though, I'd say treat ACE credit with the reservation of something that is pretty unconventional. Just do your due diligence and make sure your school not only accepts ACE credit, but they consider it equivalent to what you need it for. To find this out, I had to go back and forth with advisors a number of times, as they contacted the people who grant credit in administration(This was at my local community college, whose on the list) and eventually I found out they granted credit as equivalent to my school's math classes. It was definitely worth the trouble
Later I found out they actually have built-in courses that utilize ALEKS and any additional progress you make in receiving credit for these course, the school automatically grants. So, they are pretty ACE-friendly in that regard.
Ivy Tech Community College of Indiana is a no go for Straigterline ACE Credits - JBtesc - 08-16-2013
ironheadjack Wrote:Throughout my years of lurking and browsing this and the other forum, I cannot recall reading about anyone transferring an AA from one of the "big 3" to a B&M four year school. I'm sure it's been done but it doesn't seem very common....does an AA from a DL school have much of a negative effect on acceptance to a B&M?
Not sure exactly what you're asking.
TESC is a NJ State College. I called a few NJ State Schools when I was thinking about TESC and asked them if a TESC degree was legit and enough to get me into their school and they all consistently said that TESC is a NJ State School in every way. Call the admissions office of the schools you're thinking about and ask them directly. They can't guarantee anything but should be able to give you the info to help you make your decision.
State-wide Transfer Agreement
Ivy Tech Community College of Indiana is a no go for Straigterline ACE Credits - ironheadjack - 08-16-2013
rebel100 Wrote:What's your ultimate goal?
To graduate from a B&M school in New Jersey with a bachelors degree in economics. "Ultimate goal" would be a graduate degree in economics, a masters degree is being wishful, a doctorate is bordering on dream goal.
I was doing some reading on the other forum and the opinion of a few senior members seems to be that the stigma that once surrounded all DL programs and degrees, is still alive and strong in the econ/finance world. And to be frank that scares me away from earning a degree via DL.
Ivy Tech Community College of Indiana is a no go for Straigterline ACE Credits - ironheadjack - 08-16-2013
JBtesc Wrote:Not sure exactly what you're asking.
TESC is a NJ State College. I called a few NJ State Schools when I was thinking about TESC and asked them if a TESC degree was legit and enough to get me into their school and they all consistently said that TESC is a NJ State School in every way. Call the admissions office of the schools you're thinking about and ask them directly. They can't guarantee anything but should be able to give you the info to help you make your decision.
State-wide Transfer Agreement
The link is helpful thank you.
I'm not sure what I'm asking either, my apologies for that. Like I said before I thought I had my own little plan worked up(without verifying it with anyone) and once I got some information from informed and educated people, my plan fell apart. So now I'm trying to make sense of it all.
I appreciate all the advice you guys and gals are giving me, while I try to make sense of my scrambled thoughts.
Ivy Tech Community College of Indiana is a no go for Straigterline ACE Credits - JBtesc - 08-16-2013
ironheadjack Wrote:I thought I had my own little plan worked up(without verifying it with anyone) and once I got some information from informed and educated people, my plan fell apart. So now I'm trying to make sense of it all.
This happens to me at least 2x a day! lol
I have a plan now that is probably not feasible but I'm not ready to give it up yet lol
I have a B&M school though that I really want to go to, originally for BA but now I'm wondering if I can do a BA with TESC and still get into the Masters program at this school...
So I went to their webstie and looked at their BA program and am thinking I should try to mimic it as much as possible so my transcript will look smexier to them, lol. Also I'm thinking of taking a class or two with them to see how demanding their courses are in general while proving to them I can handle their courses.
This all presupposes that I can use a TESC BA to get into a Masters program... which may be wishful thinking... I haven't had the heart to find out for sure yet... lol
Ivy Tech Community College of Indiana is a no go for Straigterline ACE Credits - CLEP_enthusiast - 08-16-2013
ironheadjack Wrote:To graduate from a B&M school in New Jersey with a bachelors degree in economics. "Ultimate goal" would be a graduate degree in economics, a masters degree is being wishful, a doctorate is bordering on dream goal.
I was doing some reading on the other forum and the opinion of a few senior members seems to be that the stigma that once surrounded all DL programs and degrees, is still alive and strong in the econ/finance world. And to be frank that scares me away from earning a degree via DL.
What most schools consider legitimate, is a school that has regional accreditation. Thomas Edison has this, and I think they look pretty good. Their nursing program is accredited by the New Jersey Board of Nursing, so that says a lot. Not being from New Jersey, I find it somewhat hard to say the school is definitely credible. Ask around, find people in your day-to-day and ask where they go. That's what I would do if I was in your shoes.
I'd really like to ask, what motivates you to get a Graduate degree in economics? Because quite frankly, search the internet for the careers of professors. College professors at universities, assuming you can find a job, have very little job security and get paid poorly to the time and effort they put into their education. Which is ironic considering how much tuition colleges/universities rake in, as more students are now intending college than ever before.
Ivy Tech Community College of Indiana is a no go for Straigterline ACE Credits - ironheadjack - 08-16-2013
Quote:what motivates you to get a Graduate degree in economics
The subject interests me, and a graduate degree was my "ultimate goal". I have been on fence between economics and finance, but my CC didn't offer finance so I started leaning towards econ.
No rhyme nor reason to my crazy thoughts. lol
Ivy Tech Community College of Indiana is a no go for Straigterline ACE Credits - cookderosa - 08-16-2013
Resourcefulness is finding the best path to accomplish YOUR goal inside YOUR parameters. Degrees are not "one size fits all." The info here can be molded into a plan that meets almost any situation, you just have to figure out how to maximize it for you. Search "articulation" on this site, it will help you wade through some of this. I have a lot of posts regarding articulation agreements, which you may find very useful. So you don't miss it, a community college --> university path can be through an articulation agreement or a self-made plan. If you use an articulation agreement, you use the CC's CLEP policy. If you use a self-made plan you use the UNIVERSITY's policy. Very important.
Also, a CLEP can save time and money, or just time, or just money. A community college class might only be $100/credit, so when you compare the cost of a class ($300) against a CLEP ($100) you're not saving huge amounts of money, especially if you qualify for a Pell Grant. In that case, CLEP costs you more money than clases! But, for some, shaving time off their degree is the most important. For others, it allows them to enroll as a part time student (2 classes) and still work full time while graduating on time (by taking 2 tests per semester). So, the point is, that you need to work within the parameters of what you need and what your career demands. I have no doubt that by this time next week, you'll have a good plan.
Ivy Tech Community College of Indiana is a no go for Straigterline ACE Credits - rebel100 - 08-16-2013
Visit njTransfer.org a lot of your questions should be answered there. I can't put my fingers on it but I have read that an AA from TESC gets treated essentially like an AA from a NJ CC. There are still limits on cbe though...for example it appears Rutgers limits CLEP to 24 credits. And seems to indicate a preference for the general subject exams....but I could be of on that, my research was quick and dirty.
Ivy Tech Community College of Indiana is a no go for Straigterline ACE Credits - rebel100 - 08-16-2013
Here it is. Comprehensive Statewide Transfer Agreement
From reading that you might even be able to use SL ALEKS and Saylor courses to get that AA and still transfer it en block to finish at another 4 year NJ college.....be big news here if true.