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Robert Govia Makes the Case forBirthright Citizenship Ban - NotJoeBiden - 01-28-2025

(01-28-2025, 06:37 PM)Duneranger Wrote: The left as a whole is peak Dunning-Kreuger effect sprinkled in with "disingenuity" in action.

I love that our military is being used for what militaries are SUPPOSED to do (and have done for thousands of years) and not fighting for Israel or f'ing around in a third-world country bleeding money.

But I see your priorities. Always guns before children unless they are an embryo.

Hey, so when are the cost of eggs coming down?


RE: Robert Govia Makes the Case forBirthright Citizenship Ban - Duneranger - 01-28-2025

(01-28-2025, 06:46 PM)NotJoeBiden Wrote:
(01-28-2025, 06:37 PM)Duneranger Wrote: Hilarious people rush to the defense of the 14th amendment which was created with SLAVERY in mind and not millions of ECONOMIC migrants pouring in unchecked year after year. The anchor baby term is apt. These same people claim that the 2A is outdated and have no idea what "well-regulated" means in 18th century vernacular.

The left as a whole is peak Dunning-Kreuger effect sprinkled in with "disingenuity" in action.

I love that our military is being used for what militaries are SUPPOSED to do (and have done for thousands of years) and not fighting for Israel or f'ing around in a third-world country bleeding money.

The 14th amendment is pretty explicit and has centuries of case law. The 2nd specifics a well-regulated militia, which when the constitution was written would be equivalent to the National Guard. Is bas expanded since then, but there are limitations to ownership that have always existed.

But I see your priorities. Always guns before children unless they are an embryo.

Hey, so when are the cost of eggs coming down?
Just proving my point, WELL-REGULATED does not mean that in 18th-century vernacular. SCOTUS has discussed and ruled on this multiple times. It means well-trained/equipped, period. The militia is the PEOPLE, not the National Guard. I love how you pick and choose context for amendments when it suits you lol. Literally the definition of having your cake and eating it too. Try again. You are literally a parody of what I described previously. Bravo.

More low tier strawmans, its all so tiresome and predictable


RE: Robert Govia Makes the Case forBirthright Citizenship Ban - Jonathan Whatley - 01-28-2025

(01-28-2025, 06:37 PM)Duneranger Wrote: If you knew your history, you'd know the US has tried to acquire Greenland numerous times in the 20th and 19th century. We also have a long-standing base at Thule. It's not some far-out thought....

Canada has its own shit show immigration and economic problems, I disagree with inheriting their mess until they can sort it out. When/if that happens, I think it would make a decent vassal or protectorate. Since that's essentially what we do for them at this point...

Trump, so confident about his territorial expansion platform he didn't give voters the chance to judge it during his election campaign on ending forever wars and rebuilding the economy.


Robert Govia Makes the Case forBirthright Citizenship Ban - NotJoeBiden - 01-28-2025

Duneranger Wrote:Pointing out fact is racist and anti-women, lol k. I am sorry these BS deflection schemes don't work anymore. You are the caricature of a meme at this point. Fascinating.

Lol ya, facts are racist and misogynistic. It’s all Fake News. Excellent analysis.


RE: Robert Govia Makes the Case forBirthright Citizenship Ban - Duneranger - 01-28-2025

(01-28-2025, 08:23 PM)NotJoeBiden Wrote:
Duneranger Wrote:Pointing out fact is racist and anti-women, lol k. I am sorry these BS deflection schemes don't work anymore. You are the caricature of a meme at this point. Fascinating.

Lol ya, facts are racist and misogynistic. It’s all Fake News. Excellent analysis.

Again, for the third time, logical fallacies and appeals to emotion are the weakest counters/arguments.

(01-28-2025, 07:52 PM)Jonathan Whatley Wrote:
(01-28-2025, 06:37 PM)Duneranger Wrote: If you knew your history, you'd know the US has tried to acquire Greenland numerous times in the 20th and 19th century. We also have a long-standing base at Thule. It's not some far-out thought....

Canada has its own shit show immigration and economic problems, I disagree with inheriting their mess until they can sort it out. When/if that happens, I think it would make a decent vassal or protectorate. Since that's essentially what we do for them at this point...

Trump, so confident about his territorial expansion platform he didn't give voters the chance to judge it during his election campaign on ending forever wars and rebuilding the economy.

Last time I checked a president doesn't have to campaign on every action they take during their presidency. Quite impossible actually. Gaining control of Greenland would not require a war and it is a net positive for the economy and a threat deterrence against countries like Russia. Only leftists and never Trumpers see it as a bad thing. These are things Trump stood on.

Greenland has far more to gain in the US sphere of influence, than a minor European power's hands.


Robert Govia Makes the Case forBirthright Citizenship Ban - NotJoeBiden - 01-28-2025

(01-28-2025, 06:37 PM)Duneranger Wrote: Gaining control of Greenland would not require a war and it is a net positive for the economy

Lol, so buying Greenland will lower the price of eggs.


RE: Robert Govia Makes the Case forBirthright Citizenship Ban - LevelUP - 01-29-2025

I strongly believe that it's more than 50% likely the price of eggs will fall to under $3.00 by August 2025 due to:

  1. Bird flu crisis ending

    The White House stated that the Biden administration and the DOA directed the mass killing of more than 100 million chickens.
    Yahoo News Article
    Twitter Post

  2. Increase in temperature and light during the later spring and summer, which boosts egg production.

  3. Reduced seasonal demand, which ends after Easter.

The narrative and memes are all pushing that Biden killed the chickens, and when prices do drop, the Trump administration will look like they were right all along and take all the credit.

The price of eggs is sort of a cultural phenomenon that people love to talk about. I was calling out the right in 2023 for pushing conspiracy theories that the chicken feed was contaminated.
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RE: Trump Administration II Frustrations - Jonathan Whatley - 01-29-2025

The preceding 17 posts were split from the thread Robert Govia Makes the Case for Birthright Citizenship Ban.


RE: Trump Administration II Frustrations - Vle045 - 01-29-2025

Well, since my comment was split off to a new post… even my husband voted for Trump twice. And I made a similar comment at home that people who voted for Trump are idiots. He said, “so now I am an idiot?” I replied, well, I guess so if you voted for Trump. How in the world would an intelligent person vote against their own interest? BTW, hubby is a veteran and a Federal Employee. Trump is coming for his job. There is not a dang thing Trump is going to do that is good. He is in it for his OWN interests and he’s got a massive amount of people believing his garbage. Go ahead and call me “leftist” if you want. I’m neither left nor right. I just know a snake oil salesman when I see one. All this other banter is just a distraction. Trump is evil. If you can’t see that, then you might be the one being fooled. A lot of his cult followers are worshipping the false idea that he’s going to make them rich. They put money and politics ahead of people. These moves are strategic and they are for the benefit of Trump and his billionaire “yes-men”. He doesn’t care about any of us “common folk”. We are just a means to his own power.

(01-28-2025, 01:15 PM)LevelUP Wrote: I believe it's important to move beyond broad generalizations about people who support different political sides and instead focus on specific issues or policies. This approach helps us avoid stereotyping and encourages more meaningful, fact-based discussions that reflect the diversity of perspectives people bring to the table.

It's also crucial to remember that everyone has the right to support the party or candidate they believe in.

Under normal circumstances, I would agree with you.  But Trump supporters continue to ignore facts and claim anything that isn’t in line with Trump is fake news.  It is truly baffling how he has such a stronghold over people.  He is unkind, not well spoken, not well educated, lies constantly, talks only about himself, paints himself as a victim even when he isn’t.  After 8+ years of this garbage, I can’t play nice anymore.  Get a decent human running for GOP - that’s fine.  But this is bonkers.


RE: Robert Govia Makes the Case forBirthright Citizenship Ban - Duneranger - 01-29-2025

(01-28-2025, 09:18 PM)NotJoeBiden Wrote:
(01-28-2025, 06:37 PM)Duneranger Wrote: Gaining control of Greenland would not require a war and it is a net positive for the economy

Lol, so buying Greenland will lower the price of eggs.
Sophomoric quips and emotional rambling don’t look good on you. I am sorry that basic geopolitical concepts are hard for you to understand.

(01-29-2025, 11:40 AM)Vle045 Wrote: Well, since my comment was split off to a new post… even my husband voted for Trump twice.  And I made a similar comment at home that people who voted for Trump are idiots.  He said, “so now I am an idiot?”  I replied, well, I guess so if you voted for Trump.  How in the world would an intelligent person vote against their own interest?  BTW, hubby is a veteran and a Federal Employee.  Trump is coming for his job.  There is not a dang thing Trump is going to do that is good.  He is in it for his OWN interests and he’s got a massive amount of people believing his garbage.  Go ahead and call me “leftist” if you want.  I’m neither left nor right.  I just know a snake oil salesman when I see one.  All this other banter is just a distraction.  Trump is evil.  If you can’t see that, then you might be the one being fooled.   A lot of his cult followers are worshipping the false idea that he’s going to make them rich.  They put money and politics ahead of people.  These moves are strategic and they are for the benefit of Trump and his billionaire “yes-men”.  He doesn’t care about any of us “common folk”.  We are just a means to his own power.

(01-28-2025, 01:15 PM)LevelUP Wrote: I believe it's important to move beyond broad generalizations about people who support different political sides and instead focus on specific issues or policies. This approach helps us avoid stereotyping and encourages more meaningful, fact-based discussions that reflect the diversity of perspectives people bring to the table.

It's also crucial to remember that everyone has the right to support the party or candidate they believe in.

Under normal circumstances, I would agree with you.  But Trump supporters continue to ignore facts and claim anything that isn’t in line with Trump is fake news.  It is truly baffling how he has such a stronghold over people.  He is unkind, not well spoken, not well educated, lies constantly, talks only about himself, paints himself as a victim even when he isn’t.  After 8+ years of this garbage, I can’t play nice anymore.  Get a decent human running for GOP - that’s fine.  But this is bonkers.
Big shocker, a lot of federal bloat needs to go. Perhaps this includes your husbands job. Oh well.

I had to endure 10+ years of lazy federal workers who should have and would have been cut at any normal private corporation. Sorry, my crocodile tears have run dry. I have a particular disdain for a large percentage of government workers. 

Yes yes TOTALLY believable that you are a “moderate”…lol nice try. Your hyperbolic comments are akin to the emotional unhinged rants on “The View”.

Trump took back the party from turncoat neocons and Warhawk's that should have died out in the Bush era.