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RE: Getting to a one year bachelors degree without CLEP - rachel83az - 11-06-2023
Metropolia does have degrees in Finnish, but many (including this one) are also available entirely in English.
Also, I forgot to mention, you can start the 600€ section now, as far as I'm aware. Metropolia's Open University system doesn't require proof of being eligible for university studies.
As you mention, it should indeed be easier to get into a Master's degree in Europe when you have a European Bachelor's degree. It's not a guarantee of admittance, but it's one more point potentially in your favor.
RE: Getting to a one year bachelors degree without CLEP - nomaduser - 11-06-2023
Yeah, if you're in EU, you can try Xamk's free bachelor's degree.
or you can go to Finland or Norway. In Finland, universities don't charge tuition fee.
I honestly don't see how TESU or Excelsior is a good option in EU.
If I were living in EU, I would go to Finland, or any other tuition-free country and get a degree from their university.
Nordic nations Denmark, Finland, Iceland, Norway and Sweden all offer opportunities to study free or at low cost: In Norway, university study is available free of charge to all students, regardless of study level or nationality.
https://www.topuniversities.com/student-info/studying-abroad/where-can-you-study-abroad-free
They're cheaper than Excelsior or TESU and they have a much better academic reputation.
Some top universities in Finland, Denmark, Germany, Norway offer bachelor's degree for free and they're all taught in English.
RE: Getting to a one year bachelors degree without CLEP - Bosnian_Slovenian - 11-06-2023
(11-06-2023, 07:13 AM)rachel83az Wrote: Metropolia does have degrees in Finnish, but many (including this one) are also available entirely in English.
Also, I forgot to mention, you can start the 600€ section now, as far as I'm aware. Metropolia's Open University system doesn't require proof of being eligible for university studies.
As you mention, it should indeed be easier to get into a Master's degree in Europe when you have a European Bachelor's degree. It's not a guarantee of admittance, but it's one more point potentially in your favor.
Ok, so I don't need a high school diploma to do the 600eur part, but I need one to do the last 30ects. Could I go straight from the 180ects part to a 2 year masters degree? Like I wrote before, bachelors degrees are 180ects here. But the 180 ects part doesn't include the bachelor's thesis, so I'm not sure if this would still count as a bachelor's degree or not.
(11-06-2023, 07:22 AM)nomaduser Wrote: Yeah, if you're in EU, you can try Xamk's free bachelor's degree.
or you can go to Finland or Norway. In Finland, universities don't charge tuition fee.
I honestly don't see how TESU or Excelsior is a good option in EU.
If I were living in EU, I would go to Finland, or any other tuition-free country and get a degree from their university.
Nordic nations Denmark, Finland, Iceland, Norway and Sweden all offer opportunities to study free or at low cost: In Norway, university study is available free of charge to all students, regardless of study level or nationality.
https://www.topuniversities.com/student-info/studying-abroad/where-can-you-study-abroad-free
They're cheaper than Excelsior or TESU and they have a much better academic reputation.
Some top universities in Finland, Denmark, Germany, Norway offer bachelor's degree for free and they're all taught in English.
Could I also finish Xamk in one year? I don't care about the price of study, uni is also free in my country.
RE: Getting to a one year bachelors degree without CLEP - rachel83az - 11-06-2023
No, the 180 ECTS do not count as a Bachelor's degree. You still need to do the thesis. But, given your age, this will be the fastest, easiest, and cheapest way that you can get a Bachelor's degree.
RE: Getting to a one year bachelors degree without CLEP - Bosnian_Slovenian - 11-06-2023
(11-06-2023, 08:59 AM)rachel83az Wrote: No, the 180 ECTS do not count as a Bachelor's degree. You still need to do the thesis. But, given your age, this will be the fastest, easiest, and cheapest way that you can get a Bachelor's degree.
Thank you bro, you and other people on this forum are literally saving me years of my life. This must be one of the most underrated websites in world history, just along with the wiki. Some people are torturing themselves for close to a decade while they could achieve all of this in a mere few years, online at that! If there are any other universities in Finland or Europe where I could complete my degree in a short amount of time please let me/everyone else know!
RE: Getting to a one year bachelors degree without CLEP - rachel83az - 11-06-2023
I think Metropolia is the only European university with the equivalent of a "self-paced" Bachelor's degree. If there are any others out there, we haven't found them yet.
RE: Getting to a one year bachelors degree without CLEP - Bosnian_Slovenian - 11-06-2023
(11-06-2023, 09:20 AM)rachel83az Wrote: I think Metropolia is the only European university with the equivalent of a "self-paced" Bachelor's degree. If there are any others out there, we haven't found them yet.Thank you, Is earning any certifications (Microsoft, CompTIA...) a part of the degree? And if it's self paced, does that mean there is no minimum amount of courses I have to complete in a year? For example, right now I might only have time to complete a few courses since I have to get into the one year high school thing, but during high school I will have more time so I will complete more of them. As long as I complete them all in the 3-4 year span of the degree, I should be fine, right?
RE: Getting to a one year bachelors degree without CLEP - rachel83az - 11-06-2023
You do not automatically receive any certifications as part of the Metropolia degree, but some of the classwork does cover the same as a certification or two. So, you could pass the Metropolia class and then go take the relevant certification.
For the 600€ portion, that does mean that you may complete them as quickly or as slowly as you're able. I think your "right to study" for the 600€/180 ECTS portion lasts 2 or 3 years. There are some forum members here who have purchased this package and should be able to give you more information in that area.
RE: Getting to a one year bachelors degree without CLEP - Bosnian_Slovenian - 11-06-2023
(11-06-2023, 10:27 AM)rachel83az Wrote: You do not automatically receive any certifications as part of the Metropolia degree, but some of the classwork does cover the same as a certification or two. So, you could pass the Metropolia class and then go take the relevant certification.
For the 600€ portion, that does mean that you may complete them as quickly or as slowly as you're able. I think your "right to study" for the 600€/180 ECTS portion lasts 2 or 3 years. There are some forum members here who have purchased this package and should be able to give you more information in that area.
Thank you bro. I think I will just pay for the classes seperately if I decide to do any right now.
RE: Getting to a one year bachelors degree without CLEP - davewill - 11-06-2023
This is total brainstorming, I have no idea if this is actually a possibility.
I don't know if this exists in Europe, but in the U.S. it's possible to enter a combined bachelor's/master's program where you take some of your master's courses while finishing your bachelor's. When you graduate the bachelor's degree, you generally only have a year left on the master's program. If the Metropolia courses could be used to transfer into such a program, it could possibly save you some time.