(07-16-2021, 10:39 PM)LevelUP Wrote: Here we go again.

Didn't we discuss in a previous thread how this data is flawed yet there is no disclaimer in this thread that these numbers are inaccurate?

These graduation numbers don't count all students!!!

"APUS has more than 28,000 students who have completed our undergraduate programs over the past five years with over 80% of them never utilizing FSA. By failing to present complete data, ED is misleading prospective students."

"Whether the graduation rate posted is 31% or 100%, the rate is unlikely to accurately represent the quality of the institution, because a first-time, full-time student is atypical at an institution like APUS. Working adults make up 89% of APUS’s enrollment, and our students generally do not have the time to attend college full-time."

https://wallyboston.com/college-scorecard-does-not-fairly-represent-all-institutions/

"The government only tracks graduation rates for first-time, full-time students who complete degrees where they began, excluding those who transfer from one school to another."

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/grade-point/wp/2016/06/21/three-graduation-rates-for-one-college-the-baffling-government-policy-that-could-confuse-students/

This is pretty common misinformation I see being spread on the Internet.  Parents & students look at these numbers probably don't know any better than to believe them.

(07-16-2021, 10:44 PM)sanantone Wrote: You are incorrect. If you had gone to the College Scorecard website, you would have seen that you can toggle the graduation rates based on whether a student is full-time or part-time and whether they are a transfer student or first-time student.

(07-17-2021, 02:35 AM)ashkir Wrote: UMPI publishes their graduation rates. IT's done based upon a 6 year cohort. https://www.umpi.edu/about-umpi/common-data-set/

Their data shows a lot like part/full time and year breakdowns. They only rejected 7 people last year for example.

So 2014 graduation is their last full data set:
33% graduated with a Pell Grant covering 100% of expenses.
29% graduated with Student Loans (Stafford)
37% graduated who paid out of pocket
34% graduated overall

(07-17-2021, 10:35 AM)LevelUP Wrote:

(07-17-2021, 02:35 AM)ashkir Wrote: UMPI publishes their graduation rates. IT's done based upon a 6 year cohort. https://www.umpi.edu/about-umpi/common-data-set/

Their data shows a lot like part/full time and year breakdowns. They only rejected 7 people last year for example.

So 2014 graduation is their last full data set:
33% graduated with a Pell Grant covering 100% of expenses.
29% graduated with Student Loans (Stafford)
37% graduated who paid out of pocket
34% graduated overall

According to Scorecard which uses 8yrs of data:
UMPI Full-time graduation rate for first-time students is 42% and 62% for transfers.  49% overall

Some of these brick-and-mortar community colleges act as feeder schools for other schools so their graduation rate will take a hit when their students transfer out and go to other schools to finish their degrees.

(07-16-2021, 09:57 PM)ss20ts Wrote: TESU and COSC are a bit skewed. Many of their students only take a handful of courses and are then graduating.

Purdue Global is non-profit. They still have small campuses in 5 states for in person classes. That part is odd! Why they have an online law school I don't know. You can't take the Bar Exam is you go to an online law school. Well you can sit for the Cali Bar but nowhere else. It is also ACBSP accredited. The place is such an odd duck. Quack

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(07-16-2021, 09:56 PM)sanantone Wrote: It would be interesting to know what FHSU is doing because it has a 91% acceptance rate, and it 11,000 out of their 15,000 students are online. The issue with UMGC might be that it serves the military around the world at satellite campuses. The other numbers for the public universities aren't all that surprising.

FHSU....wow....what??? Did not see those numbers coming!