(06-18-2020, 09:51 AM)rvm Wrote:

(06-17-2020, 10:44 PM)ss20ts Wrote: What does she plan on doing for a job with a degree focused on ethics? Will a college take this many courses in ethics? I ask because some schools are really picky.

She's undecided on a career but since she's young (17 yo) and ready to get her 4-year degree asap, almost any 4-year degree will do for now.  

She has strong interest in sociology, psychology, philosophy and ethics classes.  Future job prospects with a 4 year in any of these concentrations seem questionable.  She may need to get a second bachelor degree at some point and perhaps a master degree. 

Since I couldn't find a degree or concentration in Ethics on COSC's website, the courses I listed were a judgment - perhaps not a good one.  Now that COSC is limiting the ACE credits they will accept, we're re-evaluating TESU and Excelsior.  I had skipped TESU for a while because they had become more expensive than COSC - same for Excelsior.  However, if COSC requires 30 credits be fulfilled by RA schools, TESU & Exc just made a huge leap to the number 1 & 2 positions.  

Sad to see COSC is no longer a Big 3.  Guess it's the Big 2 at this point.

(06-18-2020, 11:21 AM)ss20ts Wrote: [quote='rvm' pid='311318' dateline='1592491880']
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.”The colleges won't legally be able to discuss anything with you due to FERPA.

(06-18-2020, 11:54 AM)alab21 Wrote:

(06-18-2020, 11:21 AM)ss20ts Wrote:

(06-18-2020, 09:51 AM)rvm Wrote:

(06-17-2020, 10:44 PM)ss20ts Wrote: .”The colleges won't legally be able to discuss anything with you due to FERPA.

Kids can sign a FERPA waiver so the parents can help them plan and talk with their advisor (should not talk to teachers), just like a high school advisor does with the dual credit students in her charge.

In the homeschool world this is very common practice, since we are parent, teacher, and academic advisor. It may be less familiar to people who attended public school, and therefore less comfortable. Her daughter is a high school student (public or homeschooled), with learning disabilities that could become a blockade to her future, trying to essentially navigate dual credit and a degree. The student needs an advocate willing to take the time to help guide her. Mom happens to be that person. <3

Kids with parents who are involved in the planning side, tend to do better overall. Kids don’t have a concept of finances at this age. I’m a big proponent of parents staying involved. There are too many adults running around with a life time of debt hanging over them. Aka indentured servants. This group is all about preventing that and getting across the finish line.

There’s obviously a line not to cross, where the child should step up and participate in their own higher education and OP hasn’t shared the level of that involvement with us. Probably bc it’s not information we need in order to help her.

PS: Please read all of the above from a point of kindness and no snark, as that’s how I wrote it. it’s difficult to tell a person’s intent from a text box. promise I’m sending nothing but love out into the universe!



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(06-18-2020, 09:51 AM)rvm Wrote:

(06-17-2020, 10:44 PM)ss20ts Wrote: What does she plan on doing for a job with a degree focused on ethics? Will a college take this many courses in ethics? I ask because some schools are really picky.

She's undecided on a career but since she's young (17 yo) and ready to get her 4-year degree asap, almost any 4-year degree will do for now.  

She has strong interest in sociology, psychology, philosophy and ethics classes.  Future job prospects with a 4 year in any of these concentrations seem questionable.  She may need to get a second bachelor degree at some point and perhaps a master degree. 

Since I couldn't find a degree or concentration in Ethics on COSC's website, the courses I listed were a judgment - perhaps not a good one.  Now that COSC is limiting the ACE credits they will accept, we're re-evaluating TESU and Excelsior.  I had skipped TESU for a while because they had become more expensive than COSC - same for Excelsior.  However, if COSC requires 30 credits be fulfilled by RA schools, TESU & Exc just made a huge leap to the number 1 & 2 positions.  

Sad to see COSC is no longer a Big 3.  Guess it's the Big 2 at this point.

(06-18-2020, 07:56 AM)rvm Wrote:

(06-17-2020, 02:55 PM)anewmanx Wrote: https://www.nmjc.edu/

that’s your best bet for cheap online ra credit.

Thank you!  Have you taken online classes at NMJC?  Which proctoring service do they use?

(06-17-2020, 02:10 PM)rachel83az Wrote: 6 of them (cornerstone and capstone) have to be taken at COSC. The remaining 24 can be from regionally accredited sources, such as community colleges and/or universities. You can find a list of inexpensive credit sources on the wiki https://degreeforum.miraheze.org/wiki/Degree_Forum_Wiki

(06-17-2020, 02:55 PM)anewmanx Wrote: https://www.nmjc.edu/

that’s your best bet for cheap online ra credit.

(06-18-2020, 08:54 AM)alab21 Wrote: The $99 ea.asu.edu courses are hard to beat for RA credit right now. You only pay at the end if you like the grade and want it on a transcript too. No risk, no record of failure. Retake as many times as she needs. Normal cost is $25 ID fee, $400 at the end. that’s a great price for RA credit, unless she has free or discounted dual credit options locally. some are self paced with up to a year to complete- English 1 (though may not continue to be so I’d do that ASAP) and maths, so she can take her time on them. Especially if you don’t mind paying the $400-425/course. Once she’s taken English 101  and college Algebra, those should replace any placement test reqs at most colleges (check with your local options), if she needs to do any local courses.

No placement tests or transcripts needed at ASU to start. Just photo ID. Eng 102 (Comp 2) has a July start date or August for the $99 rate, if that matters. They only have suggested prerequisite courses, but don’t restrict you from taking things based on that (some have done Eng 102, then 101). There’s a host of options starting 8/18. Astronomy is a nice science with lab credit. 3 in my family are taking it now. Fun class. The math isn’t too tough and the discussion forums for the course usually give great help and tell you how to do the more challenging problems (~20 math problems/week, algebra and basic geometry so far. I hear the final only has ~ 3 math questions ). An A or B in that course is doable if you do all of the open book stuff and self assessed stuff to 100% or close to it — even if you bomb the final, it’s only 25% of the grade. If she does Eng 1-2, College Algebra, (no matter how long self paced takes), plus Astronomy 8/18 (4cr) =13cr so far. I hear the following courses are good and not math or writing heavy (though I think some may have a paper): human origins (anthropology), western civilizations, Health and Wellness. Sociology does have some adult sexuality topics that concern some parents. Maybe good to do while she’s home with you, if you’re concerned. she could take all or nearly all of what she needs via ASU, and a good chunk of it at $99/course if she did summer school. And all of it at no risk to her GPA, which to me is worth a lot. It might be tough to do more than Astronomy, and 1 other at a time in the fall, with a learning disability. Then again, she could try more,  just prioritize the ones that matter, and be willing to drop any excess.(avoid chem for her, it’s the most challenging from what I’ve heard).

Please check that all of that works and transfers as it seems it would, as I’m NOT the COSC guru, but I am in the thick of discussions lately from a homeschool perspective, for ASU and dual credit in my state.

I also like that these credits should transfer anywhere, should she change her mind on career or degree paths, as teens often do. Recently I’ve realized that Sophia and SL are also accepted at a wider range of brick and mortars than I once thought. I’ve been doing a bit of research in my state. Colleges tend not to say so, you have to ask. Not saying don’t do COSC, just saying this combo has options. I like to keep all those doors open as long as possible for my teens. They can be unpredictable sometimes.  

If you’re a homeschool family, you might also consider joining one of the Homeschooling for College Credit Facebook groups for your state. They may also have some dual credit options.


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(06-18-2020, 11:21 AM)ss20ts Wrote: I've never seen an ethics concentration at any college or university. Usually you take one ethics course and you're done with ethics. It's great that you're picking courses for her. How involved in this plan is she? She needs to be invested in this and doing the legwork. She will be the one talking with colleges and figuring out her degree plan once she's enrolled. The colleges won't legally be able to discuss anything with you due to FERPA. Why doesn't she join the forum and ask questions? Has she started any of the Sophia courses? That might be a good start for her right now because everything on Sophia is free until July 31st. Distance learning isn't for everyone. Some people excel at it and others struggle immensely.