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RE: Computer Science for Digital Forensics? - davewill - 08-30-2018
I do think he needs to get a bachelor's degree. It could be CS or it could be IT. I don't think an AAS will do it. If either but the bullet and do CS, or get a specific cyber security degree.
RE: Computer Science for Digital Forensics? - dfrecore - 08-31-2018
(08-30-2018, 10:33 PM)davewill Wrote: I do think he needs to get a bachelor's degree. It could be CS or it could be IT. I don't think an AAS will do it. If either but the bullet and do CS, or get a specific cyber security degree.
But the AAS, and then starting to work in IT doing the dreaded help-desk or whatever other entry-level work while deciding if it's for you is also a good option. Going straight to a BS is not completely necessary, especially at his age. Perfect age and circumstances to get that crappy first job in IT!!!
He may even end up at a company that will pay for certs to make the degree cheaper/easier, or pay for the whole darn degree.
RE: Computer Science for Digital Forensics? - bluebooger - 08-31-2018
> He could do a business degree for cheap/fast,
ugh, waste of time
better option -- WGU - Bachelors Computer Science -- fast and inexpensive
complete in 2 terms easily (I'm sure he'll have all of his gen ed courses transfer in)
> AAS - starting from scratch, 70 credits
not bad -- its useful material and will keep his interest up and has transferable skills (and maybe even courses)
could do that and then do WGU CS degree
then do a a MS in CS or Digital Forensics either online or in person
or skip the Masters and join the Navy or Army -- he can tell them he's interested in Computer Security / Forensics and they'll gladly take someone with a BS in CS
and they'll give him additional schooling and training
and he'll get his security clearance
> whether or not he needs a degree in computer science to make this happen.
Electrical Engineering, Computer Science, maybe Electrical Engineering Technology
> But the AAS, and then starting to work in IT doing the dreaded help-desk ...
but there is a reason its dreaded
I'm sure he doesn't want to help people reset their password and fix printers
"and his engagement/enthusiasm has been below average."
a help desk job will destroy his engagement/enthusiasm
RE: Computer Science for Digital Forensics? - jb111 - 08-31-2018
Super recommendations here. Getting a couple certifications towards the end of the AAS would help a lot. The Comptia certs seem to be a good place to start. Finish his last college networking class, go study/take the Network+ test, then finish his last security class, go study/take the Security+. Most colleges sell test vouchers at a discount (plus many other websites sell them).
I understand these certs look expensive compared to the wonderful/cheap resources we've found through this site. However, they will give your son confidence and an advantage during interview selection (eg, he could need this vs candidates with a BS). Follow this up with some interview training and he will nail it.
Future employer could pay for the much more costly BS and/or a forensics certification.
RE: Computer Science for Digital Forensics? - cookderosa - 08-31-2018
(08-31-2018, 06:09 AM)jb111 Wrote: Super recommendations here. Getting a couple certifications towards the end of the AAS would help a lot. The Comptia certs seem to be a good place to start. Finish his last college networking class, go study/take the Network+ test, then finish his last security class, go study/take the Security+. Most colleges sell test vouchers at a discount (plus many other websites sell them).
I understand these certs look expensive compared to the wonderful/cheap resources we've found through this site. However, they will give your son confidence and an advantage during interview selection (eg, he could need this vs candidates with a BS). Follow this up with some interview training and he will nail it.
Future employer could pay for the much more costly BS and/or a forensics certification.
Awesome!! My son's dual enrollment classes actually have 2 exams built in! He should have the first one this semester, the second one next.
CTI-130 OS & Device Foundations (CompTIA A+)
CTI-120 Network & Security Foundations (CompTIA Network+)
As a high school student he is only eligible to take the first semester (from the pdf I posted) so those are the courses I know the most about, but there may be more woven into that degree, I'm not sure.
(08-31-2018, 01:04 AM)bluebooger Wrote: > But the AAS, and then starting to work in IT doing the dreaded help-desk ...
but there is a reason its dreaded
I'm sure he doesn't want to help people reset their password and fix printers
"and his engagement/enthusiasm has been below average."
a help desk job will destroy his engagement/enthusiasm
Last night I asked him some questions about my computer, which is running slower than average. Then he suggested I restart it so he could do whatever he was going to do. I explained to him that I wouldn't let him restart my computer because I don't know my password. (it's been at least 3 years since it's been restarted) He was speechless and walked away.
RE: Computer Science for Digital Forensics? - quigongene - 08-31-2018
(08-31-2018, 08:14 AM)cookderosa Wrote: Awesome!! My son's dual enrollment classes actually have 2 exams built in! He should have the first one this semester, the second one next.Those two tests are excellent starting points.
CTI-130 OS & Device Foundations (CompTIA A+)
CTI-120 Network & Security Foundations (CompTIA Network+)
(08-31-2018, 08:14 AM)cookderosa Wrote: Last night I asked him some questions about my computer, which is running slower than average. Then he suggested I restart it so he could do whatever he was going to do. I explained to him that I wouldn't let him restart my computer because I don't know my password. (it's been at least 3 years since it's been restarted) He was speechless and walked away.
I cringed a little reading this...
Depending on your setup, getting a boot disk and changing the password behind the scenes shouldn't be too hard to do. For example:
https://www.lifewire.com/offline-nt-password-and-registry-editor-review-2626147
RE: Computer Science for Digital Forensics? - cookderosa - 08-31-2018
(08-31-2018, 09:04 AM)quigongene Wrote:(08-31-2018, 08:14 AM)cookderosa Wrote: Awesome!! My son's dual enrollment classes actually have 2 exams built in! He should have the first one this semester, the second one next.Those two tests are excellent starting points.
CTI-130 OS & Device Foundations (CompTIA A+)
CTI-120 Network & Security Foundations (CompTIA Network+)
(08-31-2018, 08:14 AM)cookderosa Wrote: Last night I asked him some questions about my computer, which is running slower than average. Then he suggested I restart it so he could do whatever he was going to do. I explained to him that I wouldn't let him restart my computer because I don't know my password. (it's been at least 3 years since it's been restarted) He was speechless and walked away.
I cringed a little reading this...
Depending on your setup, getting a boot disk and changing the password behind the scenes shouldn't be too hard to do. For example:
https://www.lifewire.com/offline-nt-password-and-registry-editor-review-2626147
Yeah, I guessed you wouldn't like that, but that link you sent me could have been in Chinese, it hurts my brain. I can't even begin to explain to you why it makes me crazy, but it does. You can see now why I'm SO appreciating your help with sorting all this out for my boy.
