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RE: Changes at Excelsior - dfrecore - 05-14-2018
(05-14-2018, 11:27 AM)BAngieB Wrote: The new NY state free college tuition program (also called Excelsior) is making it harder for private colleges to compete for financial aid dollars for students. See here: https://www.democratandchronicle.com/story/news/2018/02/03/suny-college-free-tuition-excelsior-program-new-york/1074931001/
Isn't Excelsior a public school?
RE: Changes at Excelsior - Life Long Learning - 05-14-2018
By the Numbers:
The two largest programs will not be touched at Excelsior College:
AS in Nursing (10,432)
BS in Liberal Arts (6,057)
The School of Undergraduate Studies at Risk?
BS in Liberal Arts 6,057
BS in Technology 3,606
BS in Business 2,406
AS in Liberal Arts 1,477
AS in Business 1,310
AS in Technology 1,139
BS in Public Service 879
BS Health Sciences 739
AS in Public Service 140
Undergrad CERT in Technology 57
AS Health Sciences 56
The School of Graduate Studies at Risk?
MS in Business 1,117
MS in Technology 508
MS Health Sciences 176
MS in Public Service 171
MA in Liberal Arts 85
BS-MS Health Sciences 62
GRAD CERT in Technology 12
GRAD CERT in Nursing 11
GRAD CERT in Health Sciences 4
The School of Nursing
AS in Nursing 10,432
BS in Nursing 1,208
MA in Nursing 362
BS-MS in Nursing 97
GRAD CERT in Nursing 11
5,137 Graduates in 2017 (167,600 graduates to date)
54% Civilians
34% Active Duty
12% Veterans
(05-14-2018, 11:40 AM)dfrecore Wrote:(05-14-2018, 11:27 AM)BAngieB Wrote: The new NY state free college tuition program (also called Excelsior) is making it harder for private colleges to compete for financial aid dollars for students. See here: https://www.democratandchronicle.com/story/news/2018/02/03/suny-college-free-tuition-excelsior-program-new-york/1074931001/
Isn't Excelsior a public school?
When it was called USNY it was. When it went to Regents College and now Excelsior College (NY State moto) it became a Private Non-Profit.
The Excelsior Scholarships has nothing to do with Excelsior College. Its a name mixup.
RE: Changes at Excelsior - dfrecore - 05-14-2018
I'm going to guess that anything other than 1000 students is going away, along with all of the many options for concentrations under the more popular degrees (they will narrow those down to the most popular as well).
I can't imagine a school doing away with a business degree, that would be silly.
I'm also going to guess that they get rid of most AA/AS's, create a general one that will work for all degrees, get rid of the AA capstone, and really just pare down the offerings (I have always thought they had way too many).
RE: Changes at Excelsior - jsh1138 - 05-14-2018
if they're hurting for money, maybe they should allow people to get more than 3 Bachelor's Degrees. I would love to have 7 or 8, personally
RE: Changes at Excelsior - dfrecore - 05-14-2018
(05-14-2018, 05:06 PM)jsh1138 Wrote: if they're hurting for money, maybe they should allow people to get more than 3 Bachelor's Degrees. I would love to have 7 or 8, personally
I'm guessing there aren't many people doing that anyway, so it's not going to make a difference.
RE: Changes at Excelsior - Life Long Learning - 05-14-2018
My Capstone course only had one student (me). I had one-on-one weekly discussions with the Notre Dame professor at Excelsior College.
It was very educational. It's an expensive model.My HC and FTCC online courses average 20 students so weekly discussions work. Less professor work and more $$$ to the college. It's about finding the right sustainable model. I do not believe EC is hurting, but they need to stop the money losers?
Business and Liberal degrees are common and easy to fill classes. Many Veteran students just need degrees to check the box. EC has 46% of these type of students. Nursing already has large numbers.
All those concentrations need to be streamlined. Get rid of CERTs unless they are stackable. Stackable ones are excellent. I think we here could design efficient stackable degrees that are more sustainable.
RE: Changes at Excelsior - jkerns - 05-16-2018
Yep. I just finished up my Liberal Arts degree at Excelsior. More of a check box degree but I really enjoyed Excelsior, no complaints here ?
RE: Changes at Excelsior - BAngieB - 05-16-2018
IHE story on Excelsior’s situation: https://www.insidehighered.com/digital-learning/article/2018/05/16/pioneering-college-tries-stay-relevant-amid-intensifying
RE: Changes at Excelsior - Nodaclu - 05-16-2018
(05-16-2018, 11:03 PM)BAngieB Wrote: IHE story on Excelsior’s situation: https://www.insidehighered.com/digital-learning/article/2018/05/16/pioneering-college-tries-stay-relevant-amid-intensifying
That was insightful, thank you!
RE: Changes at Excelsior - Life Long Learning - 05-16-2018
(05-16-2018, 11:03 PM)BAngieB Wrote: IHE story on Excelsior’s situation: https://www.insidehighered.com/digital-learning/article/2018/05/16/pioneering-college-tries-stay-relevant-amid-intensifying
Do you work there?