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AS in Math, opinions please - StoicJ - 05-24-2017
Ideas Wrote:Would you have enough UL credits in AoS if you did this?
When I wrote my last post, I didn't see that you are already doing the BSBA. That changes the total costs.
Yeah, if I wasn't already paying the $1800-$2250 for residency waiver (plus grad fee) I wouldn't consider getting the AS through TESU. Also, I don't know exactly what TESU requires for the math associates. Thought it was just 16-17 hrs of Calculus 1 and higher.
AS in Math, opinions please - Life Long Learning - 05-24-2017
I disagree.
AA and AS degrees tend to be useless.
AAS degrees produce real skills and jobs. In some cases way better than most BS degrees.
Highest Paying Associate Degrees | PayScale
TrailRunr Wrote:Because nearly all associates degrees are worthless for career and employment purposes. It's a waste of time and money. It's nothing more than a glorified high school diploma. Very few jobs will give you a better chance of becoming employed because of an associates (eg. nursing). An ASNSM is not one of the few exceptions. You will be competing against folks who have BA degrees while you are lumped in with the high school grads and probably destined for the reject pile. On top of that, you don't need a degree if you just want to take a few courses in math for personal enrichment.
And if you delay graduation, TESU may put in new requirements or fees that are unavoidable once announced. TESU has been somewhat generous with regards to avoidable changes, but it's a risk for a lousy reason (AS degree).
AS in Math, opinions please - Ideas - 05-24-2017
StoicJ Wrote:Also, I don't know exactly what TESU requires for the math associates. Thought it was just 16-17 hrs of Calculus 1 and higher.
They don't require too much but they do need Calc II and Stats. For the most advanced class, either Linear Algebra, Calc III, Discrete Math, or some other advanced ones count. Geometry should count.
Edit: Typo. I meant Calc III.
AS in Math, opinions please - sanantone - 05-25-2017
It all depends on how knowledgeable your audience is. I know that a BSBA only requires college algebra/precal/quantitative analysis and statistics. That's not impressive at all for a mathematics blogger. I know that someone with an AS in math has to take more advanced math courses.
AS in Math, opinions please - dfrecore - 05-25-2017
Life Long Learning Wrote:I disagree.
AA and AS degrees tend to be useless.
AAS degrees produce real skills and jobs. In some cases way better than most BS degrees.
Highest Paying Associate Degrees | PayScale
But like TrailRunr said, the ASNSM is not an AAS, and not one of the degrees that will give you any sort of leg up.
Why in the world would you delay a bachelor's degree by even 5 minutes for an associates is beyond me.
Even in the special circumstance of writing articles - if you ALREADY write them, why would it matter if you got an AA or not? If it's not required for it, then there's no point. Especially if it's "I think it might look good to say I have a degree in mathematics. Wouldn't necessarily have to say it was an AS." I would never imply that I had a degree that I didn't have, that will make you look silly down the road when it comes out that you don't. Just be honest and say you have a BSBA, or an AA/AS in math if you get one.
Like I said, get the BSBA first, then if you really want it, go get the AA in math.
AS in Math, opinions please - dfrecore - 05-25-2017
sanantone Wrote:It all depends on how knowledgeable your audience is. I know that a BSBA only requires college algebra/precal/quantitative analysis and statistics. That's not impressive at all for a mathematics blogger. I know that someone with an AS in math has to take more advanced math courses.
I agree. BUT, if the AA/AS is going to delay getting a BSBA, and you can get it afterwards for the exact same price as it would cost to get it at the same time by delaying graduation, it doesn't make a lot of sense.
I'm not saying the OP shouldn't get the AA in math, just that they shouldn't work it into this BSBA plan.
AS in Math, opinions please - StoicJ - 05-25-2017
I guess I should have brought up my "why".
I DON'T want a degree for a job. I am 42 years old, run a couple of small businesses, and am happy doing that. One business operates content-rich websites, and I provide the articles. I have a bunch of articles waiting for my next sites. Topics include finance and economics. For the next few months I will be spending less time on work and more on my studies.
I got my AABA a while back. Recently I decided I should complete my BSBA because I have some time being freed up soon, and to finish the degree would be pretty inexpensive. $3000 at most. Now I'm thinking it might make sense to get an additional degree in math. If I'm not pursuing a degree I probably won't get after my math studies very hard. There's that. I also know that in the bio portion of my sites I would be able to mention I have undergrad degrees in business administration AND mathematics. And in the next couple of years I may be able to say I also have a graduate degree in business administration or economics. I don't know what benefit that may bring, but what's the downside? $1500? I would probably work through Saylor's Calculus 1, but I'm not so sure I could push myself to plow through anything higher than that.
AS in Math, opinions please - sanantone - 05-25-2017
Life Long Learning Wrote:I disagree.
AA and AS degrees tend to be useless.
AAS degrees produce real skills and jobs. In some cases way better than most BS degrees.
Highest Paying Associate Degrees | PayScale
This is often not true. An AAS in CJ or Business Admin will not lead to more jobs than an AA or AS in CJ or Business Admin. People often forget that an AAS can be in anything. My AAS in Environmental, Safety, and Security Technology is absolutely worthless. On the other hand, I have seen a couple of lab jobs asking for at least an AS in biology or chemistry. I don't know if the AS holders will be competitive, but it appears that my ASNSM is worth more than my AAS.
What matters most is your major. An AS in Nursing is just as good as an AAS in Nursing, except the AS will have more gen ed that will be applicable to a BSN.
AS in Math, opinions please - dfrecore - 05-25-2017
StoicJ Wrote:I guess I should have brought up my "why".
I DON'T want a degree for a job. I am 42 years old, run a couple of small businesses, and am happy doing that. One business operates content-rich websites, and I provide the articles. I have a bunch of articles waiting for my next sites. Topics include finance and economics. For the next few months I will be spending less time on work and more on my studies.
Personally, I think that a BSBA is more suited to topics like finance & economics. A math degree wouldn't require any courses in either of those subjects, while a BSBA definitely requires those. So, the ASNSM is even less usable in that context.
AS in Math, opinions please - Ideas - 05-25-2017
StoicJ Wrote:Recently I decided I should complete my BSBA because I have some time being freed up soon, and to finish the degree would be pretty inexpensive. $3000 at most. Now I'm thinking it might make sense to get an additional degree in math. If I'm not pursuing a degree I probably won't get after my math studies very hard. There's that. I also know that in the bio portion of my sites I would be able to mention I have undergrad degrees in business administration AND mathematics. And in the next couple of years I may be able to say I also have a graduate degree in business administration or economics. I don't know what benefit that may bring, but what's the downside? $1500?
I think it's better to add a Finance concentration to your BSBA (in addition to General Mgmt concentration). Or Accounting concentration, but you specified Finance (and economics) articles. I feel like it would open more doors than the Math Associates degree. And probably cost less, and probably be quicker.