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Narrowing down stats options - Mamasaphire - 02-20-2016
bluebooger Wrote:I've taken 3 ACE courses at statistics.com
SQL, Python, Intermediate R
I thought they were all pretty great
and Excelsior gave me credit for all 3
I'd also suggest just doing it at the CC and using Khan https://www.khanacademy.org/math/probability and https://www.mathsisfun.com/data/index.html
Thank you for the input -- good to know you enjoyed the stastics.com courses! I haven't heard of "math is fun", but it sounds like something I should take a look at
Narrowing down stats options - bluebooger - 02-20-2016
here are a couple of edx courses coming up
https://www.coursera.org/course/apstat
https://www.coursera.org/learn/basic-statistics
of course they are non-credit, but they may help with your understanding
make sure you sign up for the free version -- its exactly like the paid version except you don't get a certificate
Narrowing down stats options - davewill - 02-20-2016
I'm of two minds. The first one is: If you've done this much, you can definitely rock one more math class. The finish line is in sight, don't give up, here!
The other, and louder, one is: An AA is an AA and one from TESU should serve you just fine, and once you get your BA it REALLY won't matter where you got it.
There's really no wrong answer here. Do what makes you happiest, not what you think you HAVE to do. One question I have, though. Do you have enough credits (12, I think) at TESU for the residency requirement? If not, it could turn into an expensive choice to finish your AA there.
Narrowing down stats options - Mamasaphire - 02-20-2016
bluebooger Wrote:here are a couple of edx courses coming up
https://www.coursera.org/course/apstat
https://www.coursera.org/learn/basic-statistics
of course they are non-credit, but they may help with your understanding
make sure you sign up for the free version -- its exactly like the paid version except you don't get a certificate
Thank you! I'll definitely look into those free courses.
davewill Wrote:I'm of two minds. The first one is: If you've done this much, you can definitely rock one more math class. The finish line is in sight, don't give up, here! The other, and louder, one is: An AA is an AA and one from TESU should serve you just fine, and once you get your BA it REALLY won't matter where you got it.
There's really no wrong answer here. Do what makes you happiest, not what you think you HAVE to do. One question I have, though. Do you have enough credits (12, I think) at TESU for the residency requirement? If not, it could turn into an expensive choice to finish your AA there.
I agree with both of your trains of thought. Very good point about cost. No, I do not have residency credits right now. For my BA.SS I am hoping to PLA/portfolio 18 credits, which along with the TESU PLA courses and the Capstone should make 24 credits and fulfill the residency requirement (I looked into TECEPS and decided not to do them, especially as so many of the non-business/math now have multiple essays included). So I would have to wait and apply to graduate with a TESU AA next year some time at the rate I am going, while the CC AA could theoretically be conferred in December (the Capstone has to be taken alone), or in September if I somehow get ACE stats credits accepted.
Narrowing down stats options - dfrecore - 02-20-2016
Mamasaphire Wrote:Thank you! I'll definitely look into those free courses.
I agree with both of your trains of thought. Very good point about cost. No, I do not have residency credits right now. For my BA.SS I am hoping to PLA/portfolio 18 credits, which along with the TESU PLA courses and the Capstone should make 24 credits and fulfill the residency requirement (I looked into TECEPS and decided not to do them, especially as so many of the non-business/math now have multiple essays included). So I would have to wait and apply to graduate with a TESU AA next year some time at the rate I am going, while the CC AA could theoretically be conferred in December (the Capstone has to be taken alone), or in September if I somehow get ACE stats credits accepted.
TECEP's that are 100% multiple choice (not including business or College Alg/Stats):
Public Relations Thought & Practice
Applied Liberal Arts Mathematics (VERY easy)
The Science of Nutrition
Introduction to Political Science
Introduction to Sociology
World History from 1600 to Present
Abnormal Psychology
Computer Concepts & Applications
Also, there are courses that have essays/writing that are not difficult (I've taken 2 of them):
English I
English II (taken, passed w/o studying)
Technical Writing (taken, passed w/o studying, very easy)
So don't be so afraid of TECEP's that you let it stop you from taking them.
Narrowing down stats options - smrt - 02-21-2016
I totally recommend ALEKS because it's so low-pressure. You fail? So what, try again. Doesn't cost you any more or less, just a little time, and at $20 a month, it's okay to take your time.
What got me through ALEKS Stats was YouTube. If you search YouTube for whatever concept you're looking for, you'll find a few different people talking about how to do it, so it's like being able to swap professors mid-lecture. My favorite was the Stats 101 playlist by Brandon Foltz - https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCFrjdcImgcQVyFbK04MBEhA - He just had a way that clicked for me, but there were a couple of other folks I found super helpful.
Narrowing down stats options - bluebooger - 02-21-2016
smrt Wrote:...
What got me through ALEKS Stats was YouTube. If you search YouTube for whatever concept you're looking for, you'll find a few different people talking about how to do it, so it's like being able to swap professors mid-lecture. My favorite was the Stats 101 playlist by Brandon Foltz - https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCFrjdcImgcQVyFbK04MBEhA - He just had a way that clicked for me, but there were a couple of other folks I found super helpful.
just looked at those videos -- I like his teaching
saw he has a playlist on finite math
starting to watch them now
Narrowing down stats options - JohnnyHeck - 02-21-2016
Mamasaphire Wrote:... but will if I go on eventually for a Masters in Community Health.
I would not delay learning Stats now. The best complete self-paced course is a new offering from Acrobatiq which you can obtain for $70, no text required tutoring included. Shoot me a PM if you are interested. If you want more o a ticket-punching approach for now, a math-phobic student of mine is finding the Study.com offering very enjoyable. The TECEP credit path could be acceptable to your CC if thy will accept a Pass/Fail credit on a transcript from TESU. Mine will.
However, before you start your stats course from any source, be sure you are ready Take the ALEKS assessment "Prep for Statistics", and finish it if necessary except for pie slice "Descriptive Statistics" since that should be adequately covered in the course you choose.
Narrowing down stats options - clep3705 - 02-21-2016
When DSST is an option, I recommend the DSST statistics test. It's a multiple choice test with only four choices to pick from. You don't have to know how to compute a standard deviation by hand. Or even using a calculator. When you compute a standard deviation, they give you the big pieces such as the sum of squared deviations. Just know the formula and plug and chug. You must understand z-values, how to convert to a z-value, and when the tail is included, when the tail is needed or not, etc.
If you understand statistical concepts, you should do fine. It is more conceptual than computational. Statistics isn't like college algebra or calculus. Some people who aren't good in math can do okay in statistics. On a multiple choice test like the DSST statistics exam, doing okay is sufficient.
Narrowing down stats options - dfrecore - 02-21-2016
The Stats TECEP is similar - it's all multiple choice, and you only need 55% to pass (whereas with College Algebra, you need 70%). Here's what it says on the Stats test description:
"You may bring a non-programmable calculator but probably wonât need it. The exam is concept-based, so youdo not need to memorize every formula. However, you do need to be familiar with formulas so you can identifythe appropriate situation in which to use them. You should memorize the following formulas:mean--median--standard deviation--z-score--variances"