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Is it beneficial to have two Bachelor Degrees? BSBA / BA - KittenMittens - 04-22-2015

Kaz Wrote:That right there is the big thing IMHO. I think any non-business degree can be beneficially paired with a business degree. It is a plus to say in an interview something like: "I got a degree in (liberal-arts-subject-of-choice) because I love the subject matter. I could do (subject-choice) every day and be quite happy about it. But if you don't understand how to put a roof over your head doing (subject-choice) then you won't get to keep doing it. So I also learned everything I could about business, specifically the business side of (subject-choice), and found that not only was it practical but fascinating in its own right." Something like that. Every single art and discipline has a business and a non-business side. Joint MBA + Master's-in-academic-field are becoming more common all the time, this is just the undergrad version of it.

There needs to be an important distinction. At typical traditional B&M schools, you can do a double major in two subjects typically in subjects that have overlapping pre-reqs or courses. If it doesn't take much to get that 2nd degree that's fine, or if you really want to do it. So if a person can do both majors in the same timespan that's fine.

But to spend another year, 2, 3, to pursue a 2nd bachelors, and have no work experience, that's a red flag as far as most employers are concerned - unless it's something likely STEM-related or a career changer of sorts.


Is it beneficial to have two Bachelor Degrees? BSBA / BA - mednat - 04-22-2015

KittenMittens Wrote:There needs to be an important distinction. At typical traditional B&M schools, you can do a double major in two subjects typically in subjects that have overlapping pre-reqs or courses. If it doesn't take much to get that 2nd degree that's fine, or if you really want to do it. So if a person can do both majors in the same timespan that's fine.

But to spend another year, 2, 3, to pursue a 2nd bachelors, and have no work experience, that's a red flag as far as most employers are concerned - unless it's something likely STEM-related or a career changer of sorts.

I think you have misunderstood the difference between getting a 2nd bachelors and double majoring. A second bachelors degree (BS/BA/BSAST, etc) typically only requires ~30 new credits in the area of study. It is not necessary to complete general eds again. A double major, is typically for two subjects under the same degree ie: BA in Communications , BA in Psychology. Obtaining a BSBA & a BA in Communications, would usually be two separate degrees, not a double major.

This gets kind of confusing, and is mostly semantics. However, the big 3 do not differ much from any other institution (as far as I know) in this regard.


Is it beneficial to have two Bachelor Degrees? BSBA / BA - KittenMittens - 04-22-2015

mednat Wrote:I think you have misunderstood the difference between getting a 2nd bachelors and double majoring. A second bachelors degree (BS/BA/BSAST, etc) typically only requires ~30 new credits in the area of study. It is not necessary to complete general eds again. A double major, is typically for two subjects under the same degree ie: BA in Communications , BA in Psychology. Obtaining a BSBA & a BA in Communications, would usually be two separate degrees, not a double major.

This gets kind of confusing, and is mostly semantics. However, the big 3 do not differ much from any other institution (as far as I know) in this regard.

What I mean is I don't think they let you do two majors at the same time. I think you have to complete one, then you can do the other, at least that's what I'm aware of for COSC from what someone recently said. At traditional colleges, they don't have that restriction. You can do 1, 2, 3 majors simultaneously. More importantly, it seems there are a few majors where you can quickly test out of i.e. business admin, general studies, psychology, give or take some. So doing a 2nd bachelor's say in English post-graduation would entail more coursework since there wouldn't be as many exams to completely test out of the degree. On the other hand, doing a quick bachelor's in business administration after the english one could be done, but why spend the money when the MBA and English combo would be a better investment on money and time and look better?


Is it beneficial to have two Bachelor Degrees? BSBA / BA - bricabrac - 04-22-2015

Kaz Wrote:That right there is the big thing IMHO. I think any non-business degree can be beneficially paired with a business degree. ...Every single art and discipline has a business and a non-business side. Joint MBA + Master's-in-academic-field are becoming more common all the time, this is just the undergrad version of it.


Totally agree and if I may add each degree + experience equals the potential of a higher salary. There is a practical reason why employees are trained not to discuss salaries - many sitting in similar cubes/offices, with the same title, can make much different wages.

When my position expanded into Operations, now having access to the to the company budgets, I noticed a trend; wage packages are designed around your qualifications, knowledge and experience. As an example, I make 40k base more than my counterparts. This figure does not include the annual company bonus structure nor the merit incentive bonus. For those not familiar, a merit incentive bonus can double the company bonus for those exceeding expectations/top performers (eg your normal bonus @ 100k salary is 10k, with 100% merit bonus you receive 20k).

The lesson learned is when you are qualified to take over some of the day to day responsibities from your supervisor that will free up his/her time to do more important tasks, you become not only a valued member of the team, but also a valued company asset.


Is it beneficial to have two Bachelor Degrees? BSBA / BA - Kaz - 04-22-2015

KittenMittens Wrote:There needs to be an important distinction. At typical traditional B&M schools, you can do a double major in two subjects typically in subjects that have overlapping pre-reqs or courses. If it doesn't take much to get that 2nd degree that's fine, or if you really want to do it. So if a person can do both majors in the same timespan that's fine.

As mednat pointed out double-major in the same degree is quite different from a second degree. At most colleges, including The Big 3, business is an entirely different school altogether, e.g. you can't double-major pysch with business at TESC because psych is in The Heavin School and business is in, well, the School of Business.
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KittenMittens Wrote:But to spend another year, 2, 3, to pursue a 2nd bachelors, and have no work experience, that's a red flag as far as most employers are concerned - unless it's something likely STEM-related or a career changer of sorts.

You just made up your own details there. No one in this thread said anything about how long to complete the second degree, let alone "no work experience". This discussion was really about DIYcollegeMom's question then it veered into 2nd bachelor's vs. 1st master's. No one was talking about zero work experience situations which can be an entirely separate topic

KittenMittens Wrote:What I mean is I don't think they let you do two majors at the same time.

I AM a double-major at Excelsior and yeah you have to do a "double-major" at the same time. It is part of the definition of double-major, at every B&M school I've looked into too, same time meaning all within a single degree before graduating.

KittenMittens Wrote:I think you have to complete one, then you can do the other, at least that's what I'm aware of for COSC from what someone recently said.

Nope, that person is wrong as far as generalities go. Maybe COSC is weird because until very recently they didn't have majors, only concentrations.

KittenMittens Wrote:At traditional colleges, they don't have that restriction. You can do 1, 2, 3 majors simultaneously.

Eh, that is a small exaggeration. Different schools, different rules. I went to Rutgers for a while, butt-in-seat. Depending on what school you were in within the university dictated your double-majoring. And I have never seen a "triple-major" anywhere. I'm sure there is some college somewhere that offers that but it would be an oddball.

KittenMittens Wrote:More importantly, it seems there are a few majors where you can quickly test out of i.e. business admin, general studies, psychology, give or take some. So doing a 2nd bachelor's say in English post-graduation would entail more coursework since there wouldn't be as many exams to completely test out of the degree. On the other hand, doing a quick bachelor's in business administration after the english one could be done, but why spend the money when the MBA and English combo would be a better investment on money and time and look better?

Because as I said before: apples to oranges. Of course MBA + BA in English is better than BSBA + BA in English. But also as I said before: (1) the master's is better most of the time (scroll up if you missed me saying "...but in short yes I do think most of the time it makes more sense to go for the master's") and (2) for someone like me who will finish a BA without ever having done a CLEP or DSST or UExcel or etc. the BSBA is a lot easier and a lot cheaper than an MBA.


Is it beneficial to have two Bachelor Degrees? BSBA / BA - KittenMittens - 04-22-2015

Kaz Wrote:You just made up your own details there. No one in this thread said anything about how long to complete the second degree, let alone "no work experience". This discussion was really about DIYcollegeMom's question then it veered into 2nd bachelor's vs. 1st master's. No one was talking about zero work experience situations which can be an entirely separate topic

It’s logical to assume that by doing another Bachelor’s not done concurrently is naturally going to take more time. It pertains to the discussion that work experience and a bachelor’s is better than spending more time to do a 2nd bachelor’s and losing potential work experience (i.e. if it takes longer to complete the 2nd major for whatever reason), so it is something definitely worth considering.

Quote:Nope, that person is wrong as far as generalities go. Maybe COSC is weird because until very recently they didn't have majors, only concentrations.

That person in question is user Tedium who mentioned that to be able to a 2nd bachelor’s degree at COSC, he would have to graduate first, so who knows.

Quote:Because as I said before: apples to oranges. Of course MBA + BA in English is better than BSBA + BA in English. But also as I said before: (1) the master's is better most of the time (scroll up if you missed me saying "...but in short yes I do think most of the time it makes more sense to go for the master's") and (2) for someone like me who will finish a BA without ever having done a CLEP or DSST or UExcel or etc. the BSBA is a lot easier and a lot cheaper than an MBA.

Easier maybe, but not always cheaper. You can get an MBA for about $6,000 - $10,000 either from ENMU or West Texas A&B which is AACSB accredited. Maybe marginally more expensive, but there are some very nice options for MBA programs.


Is it beneficial to have two Bachelor Degrees? BSBA / BA - sanantone - 04-22-2015

I'm too lazy to read where this discussion started and where it's going, but I thought I'd post COSC's double major policy.

Double Major - Charter Oak State College Catalog


Is it beneficial to have two Bachelor Degrees? BSBA / BA - Kaz - 04-22-2015

KittenMittens Wrote:It’s logical to assume that by doing another Bachelor’s not done concurrently is naturally going to take more time. It pertains to the discussion that work experience and a bachelor’s is better than spending more time to do a 2nd bachelor’s and losing potential work experience (i.e. if it takes longer to complete the 2nd major for whatever reason), so it is something definitely worth considering.



That person in question is user Tedium who mentioned that to be able to a 2nd bachelor’s degree at COSC, he would have to graduate first, so who knows.



Easier maybe, but not always cheaper. You can get an MBA for about $6,000 - $10,000 either from ENMU or West Texas A&B which is AACSB accredited. Maybe marginally more expensive, but there are some very nice options for MBA programs.

This is not our thread so I will start a new one on this topic since we are off the original topic.


Is it beneficial to have two Bachelor Degrees? BSBA / BA - KittenMittens - 04-22-2015

Kaz Wrote:This is not our thread so I will start a new one on this topic since we are off the original topic.

Thing is it's not off topic, considering the time investment on a 2nd bachelor's is certainly relevant. It's a reason why doing a 2nd degree may not be useful as that time can be better spent elsewhere.


Is it beneficial to have two Bachelor Degrees? BSBA / BA - cookderosa - 04-22-2015

The 100 and 200 level courses are low hanging fruit- they make EVERYONE excited, and reach for the stars, that's a good thing! That's why people here are so pumped up that they think they can accumulate degrees very quickly. But... the 300 and 400 level credits take more work/money/time. So, it's a bit deceptive when you read "oh, just 30 new credits for a new degree, and these 120 credits only took me 18 months" when in reality, it might take another 6-8 or more months to get those new 24- 30 upper level credits and quite a bit more cash.

Master's degrees in the common fields are easy to find in the $10-15K range and will take about 2 years. Accumulating 30 new upper level credits can easily cost $5k (or more) and take 8-12 months. I think when you consider the return on investment, you "get" more bang for your buck going for the masters instead of the bachelors...of course all this depends on a million variables, but I'm just throwing in my two cents. :willynilly: