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Switching from TESC to Excelsior or Charter Oak - sanantone - 05-08-2014
rebel100 Wrote:I know a lot of folks get hung up on this. I understand your argument, but address this by simply stating I have a BS degree in Organizational Leadership and Health Care, I've been through a couple of background checks that involved moderate to high scrutiny and no one has questioned it.
It provides an effective way to blend subject areas, the greatest virtue is the flexibility inherent in the planning and execution. she asked how to study a subject yet keep costs down....this is how I would do it.
Why not say what's on the transcript? I don't call my BA in Social Science a BA in Psychology/Criminal Justice. I usually just explain in my cover letters what my courses covered. I also think I put a quick mention on my resume. I might have been unknowingly weeded out by HR software for many jobs, but I've also gotten several interviews that wanted a degree in psychology, criminal justice, or a similar degree. I kind of do wish I would have gotten my degree in one or the other, but I'm not going to be dishonest about it. Government agencies are more likely to closely look at transcripts, and they frown upon embellishing.
This might offend someone, but HR specialists aren't the brightest people. I would be wondering which school in this country offers a degree in Organizational Leadership and Health Care? But, the least you can do is be honest to the people you're giving advice to. Tell them you are referring to individualized studies, and that it is your personal choice to refer to your degree by an unofficial title. You're making it seem like students can just invent an official concentration/major, and it might confuse some.
Switching from TESC to Excelsior or Charter Oak - defscarlett - 05-08-2014
So it seems that the costs of switching would be neglible... alright, time to get a 2nd job.
Switching from TESC to Excelsior or Charter Oak - sanantone - 05-08-2014
What do you want to do with the criminal justice degree? The direction you want to go in will help us figure out what alternatives are just as applicable.
Switching from TESC to Excelsior or Charter Oak - defscarlett - 05-08-2014
there was a thread on it awhile ago, but i want to do corporate security management and/or EM. Also planning to go to John Jay for my Masters. My plan is to get my BA CJ from TESC then get a 2nd BSBA CIS from TESC to avoid taking the classes that I know I will severely struggle with.
Switching from TESC to Excelsior or Charter Oak - EI2HCB - 05-08-2014
sanantone Wrote:12 credits would be $5580. That's at least over 160 credits worth of tests. I'd rather pay the enrollment fee.
I guess my calculations included a Pell Grant that I no longer qualify due to spousal income so in my case it was take the governments money and use it or lose it so I enrolled in this way. I was unable to enroll in a local college because I have three different jobs.
Switching from TESC to Excelsior or Charter Oak - Prloko - 05-09-2014
defscarlett Wrote:Under MDCP there is no enrollment fee, but there's still the residency requirement same as with the per credit plan. My plan has always been to transfer to the enrolled plan after getting the money together to avoid the residency requirement. As far as my actual core requirements I had planned to take those through Penn Foster (All CJ courses through ACE are recommended for LL credit, though TESC will credit several as UL). 3 of my AARTS credits are recommended for UL. I know to get at least some UL I can take some CJ courses through CSU - Pueblo for not much more than what PF charges, but that still won't give me the 30 UL needed for Charter Oak.
I have the money together plus a little extra to knock out the rest of all my courses (Penn Foster/CSU Pueblo/TESC) regardless of where I take them plus a little extra, but that will currently exhaust all my money in savings and won't have any left for the enrollment fee.
Do you have the GI Bill? I was under the MDCP also and didn't feel like taking 6 more credits with TESC. I just needed to take the english CLEP, so I switched to enrolled and used the GI Bill to pay the enrollment fee. Thay may be an option for you. In my opinion, I don't think it is the most feasable to transfer from a school last minute to avoid paying $1800. If you switch to COSC, you have to take at least two more courses with them and Excelsior at least a capstone, it just doesn't seem like there is a huge cost involved. But your life is your own. Good luck with your education and your future endeavors.
Switching from TESC to Excelsior or Charter Oak - sanantone - 05-09-2014
defscarlett Wrote:there was a thread on it awhile ago, but i want to do corporate security management and/or EM. Also planning to go to John Jay for my Masters. My plan is to get my BA CJ from TESC then get a 2nd BSBA CIS from TESC to avoid taking the classes that I know I will severely struggle with.
In that case, the BA in CJ would be the best option. You don't really need anything specific for emergency management. It would be cool if you could do a BSBA with a Security Management concentration (this won't be the official title), but it would be difficult to find the types of courses TESC would accept. They are very particular.
Switching from TESC to Excelsior or Charter Oak - sanantone - 05-09-2014
I don't know how open you would be to this idea, but the BSBA in Learner Designed Area of Study (security management specialization) is an option. The key to getting an LDAS approved is to have a comparable degree program at another college. Going by APUS' security management degree, I think these courses from Penn Foster and TEEX might have a chance of being approved: Terrorism, Security Management, Security and Loss Prevention, Introduction to Private Security, CIS-299, CIS-344, and MAN-299. You could receive 3 credits instead of 2 credits for CIS-344 if you take the Fundamentals of Cyber Security DSST. You might even be able to use some of the FEMA credits in the LDAS.
Switching from TESC to Excelsior or Charter Oak - defscarlett - 05-09-2014
that's an interesting idea... what are the three course numbers that you used? MAN 299 is one of the TEEX courses, and I'm assuming one of the other 2 is the other TEEX course. What's the 3rd one?
Switching from TESC to Excelsior or Charter Oak - sanantone - 05-09-2014
defscarlett Wrote:that's an interesting idea... what are the three course numbers that you used? MAN 299 is one of the TEEX courses, and I'm assuming one of the other 2 is the other TEEX course. What's the 3rd one?
They are all TEEX courses. CIS-299 is Cyber Security for Everyone; CIS-344 is Cyber Security for IT Professionals; and MAN-299 is Cyber Security for Business Professionals or something like that. They are worth 2 credits each. The new DSST for Fundamentals of Cyber Security duplicates Cyber Security for IT Professionals, but is worth 3 credits instead of 2. I figured these could be argued for acceptance based on APUS' program inclusion an information security course.