sanantone Wrote:TESC will match the course up to what's in their PLA database. If you design your portfolio to match TESC's recommendations and you end up choosing Excelsior, then Excelsior might treat those portfolios differently. You should decide on a school first. Does Excelsior even offer a foreign language degree? Oh, and Learning Counts now charges $125 per 3 credits plus the fee for the instructor-led or self-directed course.

ladylearner Wrote:I haven't started working on a portfolio but I thought I could get some info on the process first. However, unless you are an enrolled student it's hard to get information at either school. Which brings me back here trying to get information. Then I will decide what works best for me.


Excelsior doesn't offer a foreign language degree but they do offer literature as well as cultural studies. I mentioned them because I see on their website that they work with Learning Counts, which sounds inexpensive and simple. But again, I can't get any specific information because I'm not enrolled.

Does anyone out there have experience with PLA portfolios at either or the Big 3 or Ashford?

cookderosa Wrote:Do you have a set of credits / specific PLA in mind? So, with your new info, I'm assuming you already have all your lower level Spanish? If not, I'd absolutely do that first, and I'd use the NY exam (16 cr) and then put it on Learning Counts to try and see if they can do anything above and beyond those 16. TESC's degree in Humanities might be the most efficient use of a large number of language credits. Cheapest? I don't know. I will caution you against spending any $ or making a plan until you have these questions answered. This is a bit of an uncharted path here, you should consider creating a WIKI degree plan to share if you end up making all this come together.

MSinger Tesc Wrote:I'd like to clarify something about TESC's portfolio process. An earlier post got it right: students do register for PLA-100 and PLA-200, which are online courses that introduce students to the concept of PLA, and then walk students through the process of putting together a portfolio that addresses multiple courses and credits. Learning Counts has a similar course requirement as well. Most colleges that offer portfolio evaluation also do this.

If you already have successfully done a portfolio, either at Thomas Edison or elsewhere, you don't need to take these classes, though we still recommend PLA-200 as a way to help you organize your materials and structure the process.

As for costs, one earlier post said this:

"The exact cost is $476/credit (x3) for the PLA "classes" ($1428) then you pay another $350 for 12 credits reviewed = $1778.00"

That is only true for out of state, non-enrolled students. Hardly anyone pays that rate. Enrolled students pay the regular tuition--in-state is $170 per credit, out-of-state is $229 per credit for PLA-100 (1 credit) and PLA-200 (2 credits), which total 3 credits between them. After that it is $350 for the first 12 credits evaluated, and $200 for each additional 6 credits. So for an enrolled in-state student, the cost for doing 18 credits via portfolio is $510 + $350 + $200 = $1060. I think it's comparable to the cost for Learning Counts, but better is the fact that the courses for which you earn credit are mapped to the curriculum--in other words, we will help you figure out which courses you need and will apply to your degree at TESC, which an outside service can't do for you.

I hope that helps. The website has lots of information about this: Thomas Edison State College: Prior Learning Assessment. But you can also email us directly at the Center for the Assessment of Learning: plaweb@tesc.edu.

Regards,
Marc Singer, Vice Provost
Center for the Assessment of Learning
Thomas Edison State College

MSinger Tesc Wrote:I'd like to clarify something about TESC's portfolio process. An earlier post got it right: students do register for PLA-100 and PLA-200, which are online courses that introduce students to the concept of PLA, and then walk students through the process of putting together a portfolio that addresses multiple courses and credits. Learning Counts has a similar course requirement as well. Most colleges that offer portfolio evaluation also do this.

If you already have successfully done a portfolio, either at Thomas Edison or elsewhere, you don't need to take these classes, though we still recommend PLA-200 as a way to help you organize your materials and structure the process.

As for costs, one earlier post said this:

"The exact cost is $476/credit (x3) for the PLA "classes" ($1428) then you pay another $350 for 12 credits reviewed = $1778.00"

That is only true for out of state, non-enrolled students. Hardly anyone pays that rate. Enrolled students pay the regular tuition--in-state is $170 per credit, out-of-state is $229 per credit for PLA-100 (1 credit) and PLA-200 (2 credits), which total 3 credits between them. After that it is $350 for the first 12 credits evaluated, and $200 for each additional 6 credits. So for an enrolled in-state student, the cost for doing 18 credits via portfolio is $510 + $350 + $200 = $1060. I think it's comparable to the cost for Learning Counts, but better is the fact that the courses for which you earn credit are mapped to the curriculum--in other words, we will help you figure out which courses you need and will apply to your degree at TESC, which an outside service can't do for you.

I hope that helps. The website has lots of information about this: Thomas Edison State College: Prior Learning Assessment. But you can also email us directly at the Center for the Assessment of Learning: plaweb@tesc.edu.

Regards,
Marc Singer, Vice Provost
Center for the Assessment of Learning
Thomas Edison State College

sanantone Wrote:Thank you for the additional information. So, you're saying that I could complete one portfolio and the required PLA course at Learning Counts and not have to worry about taking PLA-100 and PLA-200 in order to do more portfolios through TESC? Do the credits earned through TESC portfolios count toward the residency requirements under the Per Credit Tuition Plan? Also, can someone do portfolios for science labs?

MSinger Tesc Wrote:Well, that is not what I would recommend, since Learning Counts' course is almost the same as ours, and theirs costs $895, which includes one three-credit portfolio. I guess that's less expensive than our Per Credit Tuition Plan.

While the policy may change in the future, and you should check with an Academic Advisor here, yes, according to the website, "Residency requirements are met by earning credits via Thomas Edison State College Online (OL), Guided Study (GS) or e-Pack® (EP) courses, TECEP® exams (TE) or Portfolio Assessment (PA)." So PLA does count toward the residency requirement.

As for labs: the catalog says you can't earn credit for "stand-alone lab courses." If you can demonstrate your lab knowledge that is part of a full course (like a Bio course with lab) through a portfolio, and I can't imagine it would be easy, you can do that.