namwen Wrote:I don't know all of the rules but why can't a licensed RN from an unaccredited school do a BSN at Excelsior?

Jonathan Whatley Wrote:I believe they could. But the point is that this could mean little or nothing to a board of nursing, and perhaps to other authorities Gaz notes like the military nursing corps, some nursing schools for graduate programs, etc. These would often – maybe very often – go by the school where qualifying professional training was completed. Post-professional education in nursing from an accredited school wouldn't mitigate an unaccredited nursing-entry school.

Jonathan Whatley Wrote:I believe they could. But the point is that this could mean little or nothing to a board of nursing, and perhaps to other authorities Gaz notes like the military nursing corps, some nursing schools for graduate programs, etc. These would often – maybe very often – go by the school where qualifying professional training was completed. Post-professional education in nursing from an accredited school wouldn't mitigate an unaccredited nursing-entry school.

namwen Wrote:I don't know if that is completely true. Doing and unaccredited RN program does not eliminate the possibility of doing and accredited BSN.

Gaz Wrote:You CAN apply to an accredited RN-BSN; however, you do not have any credits to transfer. Some schools will give you credit for passing the NCLEX, but you have to retake all of the prereqs, coreqs, and general education courses. I don't agree with the system. I don't believe that quality education is measured by accreditation alone, but why make things harder on yourself? One of my favorite lines from Good Will Hunting is, "you dropped a 150 grand on a effin' education you could have gotten for a dollar fifty in late charges at the public library."

namwen Wrote:Again, I'm not in a position to argue but is this something that you know or are you assuming this?

The reason I am questioning is because I LOVE to explore all possible options. I'd hate to lead someone into believing that something won't work by assumptions.

namwen Wrote:I would never argue that there wouldn't be limitations but since the program qualifies you to take the NCLEX I'm thinking the board of nursing is good with it.

Quote:Patti Reid, director of continuing education at Ohio State University, said nurses from unaccredited programs are shocked that they can’t transfer there.

“They say, ‘We were told we could transfer,’ and I say, ‘I’m sorry what you were told, but you’re not accredited,’” Reid said. “I feel sorry for these students.”

Quote:Nursing students in Cuyahoga Community College's two-year RN program are angry that their school is mired in accreditation problems and even angrier that they didn't learn of the problems, which date back to 2010, until last week. […]

They also said they're worried that the accreditation issue will keep hospitals from hiring them, other states from allowing them to practice, and other schools from accepting them into bachelor's and master's degree programs.

"It limits my options for future employment and study," one student told The Plain Dealer. "And now that everyone knows about the problem with Tri-C, the reputation of the school is going to water down my achievement." […]

The Cleveland Clinic, for example, only hires nurses from accredited nursing programs, according to a spokeswoman. And some colleges that offer bachelor's or master's degrees in nursing only accept students with associate degrees from accredited nursing programs. […]

A large number of students is suing the State of Ohio alleging that Owens Community College, south of Toledo, did not immediately tell them that its nursing school had lost accreditation.

In that case, expected to go to trial in 2014, they're asking the court for compensation for wages they could lose in the future and other problems the lost accreditation could cause them. […]

Another 75 nursing students, represented by Roanoke, Va., lawyer John Fishwick, sued Virginia Western Community College in 2007 claiming the school waited months to tell them it had lost its accreditation.

That lawsuit resulted in a $2.4 million settlement for the students.

"National accreditation is very important to employers and to your career," Fishwick said in a telephone interview. "It's the gold standard."

"If it wasn't important, they wouldn't have tried to get it in the first place."

cookderosa Wrote:I hope the OP is following this thread.

My mom is a good example. She earned her RN from a hospital - based diploma program in 1968. She had to take classes, however, she took the required gen eds through the local community college (as was the protocol). She later attended the community college where I worked, and only her gen eds were eligible for credit, even as old as they were, they allowed her to transfer them. Her diploma courses were not eligible for any credit at all.

So, I believe if this student uses SL to complete her prereqs, then they will STILL be accepted by a regionally accredited college later. Courses in residence are not going to be accepted by TESC, I don't know how EC would handle it. I know EC used to allow you to petition if you had NA credit, this school isn't even NA. That's a fact. RN or not.