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  Excelsior Official review/plan - feedback will be appreciated.
Posted by: jec959 - 09-27-2007, 07:21 AM - Forum: General Education-Related Discussion - Replies (3)

Finally got the official review from excelsior there was some hold up due to the whole test center server crash and losing the results to my principles of marketing which I did get credit for with the letter from collegeboard and my grade results by the way. Here it is I have 99 credits granted. This is what I have left.

at least 18.00 credits in arts & sciences to include:
- College Algebra, at the level of precalculus (or higher) - almost finished with Penn Foster
- Statistics - Approved to take from Penn Foster
Ethics Requirement - Apparently they couldn't tell from the write up if this if it would work for business ethics on my Ethics in Information systems course so credit toward humanities and I still need the business ethics requirement. Since I don't need upper level will take DSST - ethics in america

Business Component
You need:
- Introduction to Accounting I (Financial) (mine was older than 20 years and didn't count) plan to clep this
- Introduction to Accounting II (Managerial) (mine was older than 20 years and didn't count approved to take from Penn Foster )
- Business Law- (mine was older than 20 years and didn't count)
plan to clep this
- Managerial Finance or Financial Management
BUS*350 PRINCIPLES OF FINANCE - Just finished the course waiting for the proctor package to take the final
- Production/Operations Management - Approved to take from CSU - peublo
- Business Policy*** I may take this with Excelsior haven't decided yet.
BUS*495 BUSINESS STRATEGY - where are other people taking it or is the tecep exam do-able.


So I need more than I thought but hey I am still almost there. For the last of the arts/sciences I thought I would take intro to psych, world religions, and american literature. Unless someone can suggest easier/faster ones.

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  DSST and ECE Ethics Exams - Passed!
Posted by: barcotta - 09-27-2007, 02:41 AM - Forum: General Education-Related Discussion - Replies (9)

ECE and DSST Ethics

I decided two weeks ago that I would take today (Wednesday) off of work and take the DSST and ECE Ethics exams. I began studying last Monday and did at least some studying each day--which totaled about a week and a half. I also had my first of four proctored exams in my on-line Accounting II class yesterday (Tuesday). That class is kicking my butt in a big way.

Well, between trying to keep up in Accounting and a few of life's unanticipated surprises--I didn't have a lot of time for Ethics study. I considered several times cancelling one or both exams--but I decided that I would take my own advice and just get through as much as I could using IC and a little Wikipedia and see what happened.

I did schedule a half-day off of work on Tuesday so I could focus for several hours on Accounting and get at least a pass on that exam. No multiple choice there--at least not much--and you needed to know the answer for all of them. Then there was the short essay and the "blank page" problems. This Accounting II is for the birds--but it's 5 credits so, combined with Accounting I, a total of 10, so--it seemed like a good idea at the time...

Anyway, I had ordered the ECE practice exams but didn't even try the first one until two nights before the test. It was about one in the morning and I was exhausted and the computer started acting up and... I finally made it through the whole thing half asleep although I didn't finish the last 20 problems. My score was a 57. Undeterred, I soldiered on aided by JoAnne's notes courtesy of mjno (thanks!).

I was seriously sleep deprived going into Tuesday's Acctg exam. Did well enough on that--finishing around 10 p.m. Then I had to decide if it was better to do some more Ethics review or get more sleep. I ended up doing a little review--never got back to the ECE practice test, and went to bed around midnight.

By 8 a.m. the next day I was at a parent teacher conference (my third grade son had written a short story called, "The Transmogrification of Keith--in which he transmogrified into a reticulated python, of all things...)--cut out of there at 8:30 a.m. and by 9:30 I was taking the DSST Ethics in America test. I finished that around 11:15 a.m. and drove about an hour across town for the ECE Ethics exam.

Ever been to a Pearson testing center? It's intense. You have to empty your pockets into your locker--no water or scratch paper (they give you some plastic paper and a marker) and you get photographed and fingerprinted before you even enter the testing center. To enter the testing center, they fingerprint you again and warn you that you are being videotaped.

It's a lot like going into the hospital for surgery.

For me, the test was excruciatingly long and I took the whole 180 minutes with only a couple remaining at the end. It was 135 questions and I truly had no idea if I was doing well or not. Like those who have gone before me said--get the practice tests and use them. Even the little review I did helped--but I'm sure I would have been a lot more confident if I had taken both tests and spent some time with them.

So, how did I do? I scored a 58 on the DSST (52 was required for an A at EC) and I got an A on the ECE Ethics. Interestingly, the ECE gave you a breakdown of your percentage correct in each of the six sections of the test. My highest was 80% and my lowest was 56%. That got me an A. Crazy, huh?

There is ample feedback already for both exams and it is accurate. I would emphasize knowing the most popular concepts thoroughly (Kantianism, universalism, the Original Position, consequentialism...) as well as the major players (Mill, Kant, Bentham, Hobbes, Socrates, Aristotle and a lot of Locke and Rawls on the ECE). You have to be able to recognize them in action. On the DSST exam, you frequently had to know if a bit of information "was morally relevent" given a certain perspective or set of circumstances. Many of those questions were easy and you didn't have to know anything about parentalism, existentialism (although a lot of that was on there) or Kant--but on many you did need specific knowledge.

The ECE test definitely required specific knowledge in most cases and I think practicing with practice tests is the way to go. Obviously, I did well enough using IC almost exclusively--but I did a lot of figuring on the fly in that test and it was unnerving. I found the ECE test frustrating in that whenever they asked about a concept for which I felt prepared, the obvious clear answers weren't there. Instead, you had to really extrapolate which was best from a list of close options. I must've picked enough correct ones.

That's it for now. I'm thinking of trying the CLEP Macroeconomics test next--maybe some time in October.

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  A model worth emulating: Houston
Posted by: GrittySam - 09-27-2007, 01:57 AM - Forum: Off Topic - Replies (4)

For long lasting sustainable development, proper management of natural resources is a must. Economic prosperity will not last and will decline if people do not have access to a clean environment and unpolluted water and air. The state of Texas, home to the second largest population in the U.S is one such city, which would have fallen into an intractable urban mess, if likeminded people hadn’t stepped in to affect a change.

The Houston as we see today has gone much forward and is now a teeming city full of contented people from all walks of life. The vast open spaces, parks and other recreational facilities have made life much better. The trees planted on the sides of the roads not only provide cool atmosphere to those walking on the footpaths, but also has helped to keep the carbon dioxide levels down.

An umbrella group of various organizations came together under a visionary several years ago to improve the quality of life in the Houston area. One of the other areas that they decided to work was to keep the city clean from billboards and signposts, which has become an eyesore and a health hazard if not removed on time. The real beauty of the city actually got hidden under the numerous signposts and other advertisement graffiti.

Consistent efforts by Dick Weekley, who was not only the founder of a leading real estate brokerage firm but also associated with a leading watchdog, the Texans for Public Justice (TPJ), helped to focus public opinion on this key issue. Even though there have been discordant voices in the beginning, the message got effectively conveyed to the masses. People became much interested in the issue and the vigilant public and the civic authorities brought about a sea change in the scenery in the city. hilarious

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  Honors Change for EC students
Posted by: mjno - 09-26-2007, 09:25 PM - Forum: General Education-Related Discussion - Replies (14)

For those who are not aware (and care).

There is a new policy regarding honors. Beginning with the January 2008
degree conferral a student must have 60 graded credits to be eligible for
honors. Prior to that you needed 30 graded credits.

The above statement came from my advisor.

I was told the change has to do with requirements for some new financial aid programs Excelsior wants to be involved with.

I personally have a decent shot at getting it on my diploma wanted to let others (who maybe concerned) know of the change.

Mike

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  Passed Rise and Fall of the Soviet Union
Posted by: blazingguns - 09-26-2007, 05:08 PM - Forum: General Education-Related Discussion - Replies (8)

Hey peoples. I have been looking at the forums here for quite a while and have found them most helpful. Thought I would return the favor for any of you taking Rise and Fall of the USSR (DSST).

I used IC and Wikipedia mainly. I had another textbook called The First Socialist Society (Don't remember the author's name). I didn't like the textbook that much because it listed events in categories more than it did in chronological order. IC and Wikipedia were very sufficient for this test.

Pay close attention to names in the flashcards on IC. I just took this testtwo days ago, and the one I took seemed to focus a lot on WWII. There were VERY few questions that had to deal with pre-revolutionary history.

Thanks again to all you who post and give information. It has helped me a bunch.

God bless.

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  CLEP Test Scoring
Posted by: joel66 - 09-26-2007, 09:52 AM - Forum: General Education-Related Discussion - Replies (3)

I just took my first practice test for U.S. History I. I noticed I only got 48.33% of the questions right and scored a 58? I was reading Excelsior's webpage and it says I need at least a 50 or higher to get credit. Based on those numbers, I would need to get approx. 39 (32.5%) of 120 questions correct? Of course, I'm not going to get over confidence and still plan on spending another two weeks of taking practice tests and studying, but I'm surprised you can score this low. Not that I'm complaining because it means I can studying hard and get a lot of courses completed. Is DANTES the same way?

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  Just Passed Intro to Educational Psych
Posted by: acs1122 - 09-25-2007, 01:24 PM - Forum: General Education-Related Discussion - Replies (6)

This one was not so easy for me. I had that sinking feeling throughout the entire exam that it could go either way, but I passed with a score of 56. Out of the 100 questions, I had to mark around 20 questions for review if time permitted, and thankfully most of them were helped with questions that came up later on the exam Wink .

Know:
types of memory (sensory, short-term, episodic, procedural)
statistical terms (mean, mode, median, z-score, stanine score)
theories (motivational, behaviorial, hierarchy of needs)
Jean Piaget, I had a lot of questions about how his work compared to others

I studied the IC flashcards for 10 hours, and on exam day I studied Peterson's practice exam (print version), and the CLEP Official Study Guide for 2 hours right before the exam. All in all, not bad for a total of 12 hours of study time, but if I had to do it over again, I'd study more.

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  Need feedback on Upper Division Arts & Science Courses
Posted by: joel66 - 09-25-2007, 11:51 AM - Forum: General Education-Related Discussion - Replies (9)

Need to get some feedback on taking seven upper division Arts & Science courses to complete my B.S. in Liberal Arts with Excelsior College. At the moment, I'm studying for the U.S. History I and II CLEP tests. I'm thinking of doing U.S. History I, then Civil War & Reconstruction, then taking U.S. History II, then follow the rest of the 6 upper division courses.

Out of curiosity, what courses you see below in order of easiest to hardest to get completed for the remaining 6 (18 units), if I do U.S History I, Civil War & Construction, then U.S. History II?

Excelsior Exams
American Dream 6U
Ethics: Theory & Practice 3U
Religions of the World 3U
Foundations of Gerontology 3U
Juvenile Delinquency 3U
Organizational Behavior 3U
World Conflicts Since 1900 3U
World Population 3U

DANTES Exams
Money and Banking 3U
Rise and Fall of the Soviet Union 3U

As for U.S. History I, I'm doing the following at the moment for my studying plan:

1. Videos 1 to 12 "A Biography of America"
2. Read Spark Notes 101 U.S History I
3. Read Chapter 1 of Reconstruction in Spark Notes 101 U.S. History II
4. watched Videos 1 to 12 again of "A Biography of America"
5. Reading again Spark Notes 101 U.S. History I
6. Read Chapter 1 of Reconstruction "A Biography of America"
***** done the above in the past 8 days *****

7. Planning on taking test 1 on REA's U.S. History I exam
8. Then read the study guide for REA's U.S. History
9. Take test 2 on REA's U.S. History exam
10. Review REA's Study guide again for those chapters I need to work on
11. Take Instant Cert practice test
12. Take the final (3rd exam) on REA's study guide

NOTE: Based on the above, I anticipate it will take approx. 3 weeks to complete. The reason for doing so much studying because I'm thinking of studying for Civil War & Reconstruction in two weeks after U.S. History I. I'm hoping to start reading last two chapters of U.S. History I and first chapter of U.S. History 2 sparknotes 101, then read the sparknotes Civil War & Reconstruction, as well as Instant cert. I also have the Civil War videos of Ken Burns to watch as well.

Once I complete U.S. History II following the same type of format as steps 1 to 12 above, I might consider the American Dream. Not sure about the essay questions. I'm hoping to use my studying for U.S. History I, II, and Civil War & Recon to be a springboard to other exams.

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  Middle east or Vietnam
Posted by: dini - 09-24-2007, 11:39 AM - Forum: General Education-Related Discussion - Replies (4)

Does anyone know about suny gen ed. requirements? They require another world civilization that is not western or american (or western relgioun). something like vietnam or middle east which i do not want to take.
Or anyone offer info. on Middle east or Vietnam dsst?
thanks
dini

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  80??
Posted by: cookderosa - 09-24-2007, 12:56 AM - Forum: General Education-Related Discussion - Replies (5)

Ok, does anyone know of someone that has ever had a perfect score -80- :eek: on a CLEP exam?? Just wondering!

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