Where should I go?

[chopliver2]

I would like to begin by thanking all contributors of the forum in advance.



I want to pursue a Business Degree or similar, however...

I am American, but studied abroad and completed a BBA, it was evaluated as three years undergraduate study by WES (refer to attachments).

Not sure whether to go with any of the Big 3, WGU, or UMPI since you can transfer more than 110 credits to any of the Big 3 respectively and only 90 to WGU and UMPI.

Any suggestions and insights are very much appreciated! Detailing expected time frames and associated costs. 

- I also think I will qualify for the Pell Grant.
 

It was evaluated as follows:

2015–2016 (Lower Level - L)

• (L) Functional English – 3.5 credits – Grade: A
  
• (L) Office Management – 3.5 credits – Grade: B
  
• (L) Financial Accounting – 3.5 credits – Grade: A
  
• (L) Principles and Practice of Management – 3.5 credits – Grade: A
  
• (L) Business Economics – 3.5 credits – Grade: A
  
• (L) Business Environment – 3.5 credits – Grade: A
  
• (L) Computer Application in Business – 3.5 credits – Grade: B
  
• (L) Business Law – 3.5 credits – Grade: A
  
• (L) Business Mathematics – 3.5 credits – Grade: A
  
• (L) Entrepreneurial Development – 3.5 credits – Grade: A
  
  

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2016–2017 (Lower Level - L)

• (L) Business Communication – 3.5 credits – Grade: A
  
• (L) Human Resources Management – 3.5 credits – Grade: A
  
• (L) Marketing Management – 3.5 credits – Grade: A
  
• (L) Financial Management – 3.5 credits – Grade: A
  
• (L) Operational Management – 3.5 credits – Grade: A
  
• (L) Research Methodology – 3.5 credits – Grade: A
  
• (L) Quantitative Analysis – 3.5 credits – Grade: A
  
• (L) Organizational Behavior – 3.5 credits – Grade: A
  
• (L) Unspecified Course – 3.5 credits – Grade: A
  
• Specialization Paper – No credits/grade listed
  
  

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2017–2018 (Upper Level - U)

• (U) Accounting for Management – 3.5 credits – Grade: A
  
• (U) Company Organization – 3.5 credits – Grade: B
  
• (U) Project Presentation and Seminar – 3.5 credits – Grade: A
  
• (U) Unspecified Course – 3.5 credits – Grade: A
  
• Specialization Paper – No credits/grade listed
  
• (U) Management Information System – 3.5 credits – Grade: A
  
• (U) Business Policy and Strategic Management – 3.5 credits – Grade: A
  
• (U) International Marketing – 3.5 credits – Grade: A
  
• (U) Unspecified Course – 3.5 credits – Grade: A
  
• Specialization Paper – No credits/grade listed
  
  

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Summary
Total Undergraduate Semester Credits: 94.5
GPA: 3.89

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[LevelUP]

I would like to begin by thanking all contributors of the forum in advance.



I want to pursue a Business Degree or similar, however...

I am American, but studied abroad and completed a BBA, it was evaluated as three years undergraduate study by WES (refer to attachments).

Not sure whether to go with any of the Big 3, WGU, or UMPI since you can transfer more than 110 credits to any of the Big 3 respectively and only 90 to WGU and UMPI.

Any suggestions and insights are very much appreciated! Detailing expected time frames and associated costs. 

- I also think I will qualify for the Pell Grant.
 

It was evaluated as follows:

2015–2016 (Lower Level - L)

• (L) Functional English – 3.5 credits – Grade: A
  
• (L) Office Management – 3.5 credits – Grade: B
  
• (L) Financial Accounting – 3.5 credits – Grade: A
  
• (L) Principles and Practice of Management – 3.5 credits – Grade: A
  
• (L) Business Economics – 3.5 credits – Grade: A
  
• (L) Business Environment – 3.5 credits – Grade: A
  
• (L) Computer Application in Business – 3.5 credits – Grade: B
  
• (L) Business Law – 3.5 credits – Grade: A
  
• (L) Business Mathematics – 3.5 credits – Grade: A
  
• (L) Entrepreneurial Development – 3.5 credits – Grade: A
  
  

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2016–2017 (Lower Level - L)

• (L) Business Communication – 3.5 credits – Grade: A
  
• (L) Human Resources Management – 3.5 credits – Grade: A
  
• (L) Marketing Management – 3.5 credits – Grade: A
  
• (L) Financial Management – 3.5 credits – Grade: A
  
• (L) Operational Management – 3.5 credits – Grade: A
  
• (L) Research Methodology – 3.5 credits – Grade: A
  
• (L) Quantitative Analysis – 3.5 credits – Grade: A
  
• (L) Organizational Behavior – 3.5 credits – Grade: A
  
• (L) Unspecified Course – 3.5 credits – Grade: A
  
• Specialization Paper – No credits/grade listed
  
  

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2017–2018 (Upper Level - U)

• (U) Accounting for Management – 3.5 credits – Grade: A
  
• (U) Company Organization – 3.5 credits – Grade: B
  
• (U) Project Presentation and Seminar – 3.5 credits – Grade: A
  
• (U) Unspecified Course – 3.5 credits – Grade: A
  
• Specialization Paper – No credits/grade listed
  
• (U) Management Information System – 3.5 credits – Grade: A
  
• (U) Business Policy and Strategic Management – 3.5 credits – Grade: A
  
• (U) International Marketing – 3.5 credits – Grade: A
  
• (U) Unspecified Course – 3.5 credits – Grade: A
  
• Specialization Paper – No credits/grade listed
  
  

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Summary
Total Undergraduate Semester Credits: 94.5
GPA: 3.89

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UMPI, TESU, WGU, PUG are all great schools to complete degrees if you want speed.

If those are 60+ RA credits, you might want to also consider CUNY SPS Business degree
https://degreeforum.miraheze.org/wiki/CU...egree_Plan

[chopliver2]

Is it competency based? Or am I limited in pace?

[bjcheung77]

@LevelUp, did you split this thread? Haha, I merged it into OP's original one so we get to know more about their info and what they need or want... I'll just link the original thread below as it has the addendum and template, plus my recommendations. Link: https://www.degreeforum.net/mybb/Thread-...-plan-help

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Is it competency based? Or am I limited in pace?

Basically... Depends on which one you're referring to, PUG/WGU/UMPI = CBE.
Otherwise, you're limited to your own pace plus the semester time for CUNY/TESU.

[chopliver2]

@LevelUp, did you split this thread? Haha, I merged it into OP's original one so we get to know more about their info and what they need or want...  I'll just link the original thread below as it has the addendum and template, plus my recommendations.  Link: https://www.degreeforum.net/mybb/Thread-...-plan-help

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Is it competency based? Or am I limited in pace?

Basically... Depends on which one you're referring to, PUG/WGU/UMPI = CBE.  
Otherwise, you're limited to your own pace plus the semester time for CUNY/TESU.

Don't PUG, WGU, UMPI have a term time? Seems almost the same with semantics.

[origamishuttle]

Don't PUG, WGU, UMPI have a term time? Seems almost the same with semantics.

It's similar to a subscription from Sophia or Study.com. It's a set rate for a given period of time, but there's no official limit to the number of courses you can take. The courses are essentially self-paced, so the faster you can complete courses, the fewer terms you need and the less tuition you pay.

[bjcheung77]

That's why I mentioned CBE for PUG/WGU/UMPI... Excelsior/TESU is CBE until the last residency credits, those classes taken at the institution are on the semester system, thus, you go at a specific pace because of assignment/exams/final and other deadlines.

[chopliver2]

That's why I mentioned CBE for PUG/WGU/UMPI... Excelsior/TESU is CBE until the last residency credits, those classes taken at the institution are on the semester system, thus, you go at a specific pace because of assignment/exams/final and other deadlines.

Ahhh ok I didn't notice that nuance. I was interested in the Big 3 since I have a WES evaluation and would be able to transfer those credits as RA credits and the remaining ACE credits from sophia or study hopefully allowing me to transfer 110 credits or more. American Military University was also of interest because they accept up to 60 ACE credits and the other 30 can be RA credits.

[bjcheung77]

Many people keep asking this question, it's complex for transfers, but really simple when you grasp the concept... In brief, you have to complete 40+ classes to get 120 credits. That's why I tell people to create a spreadsheet, make sure to have 120+ credits in the correct transfer fields, and complete them like a shopping list. UMPI/UoPeople is my recommendation once again, see your previous thread...

Basically, I've explained before, it's not the number of credits you have remaining after transfer, it's the cost, ease, speed, to finish that really counts. The two options I mentioned would be cheaper, easier, faster, and provide more ROI/Value, plus being more personalized than going the Excelsior or TESU route due to having up to 60 electives of what you want and interest you, you can get to your Masters faster...

Each person would have a different view on getting things done, they're virtually identical as Excelsior will allow 113 credits transferred, TESU will allow 114 credits transferred, and you may want to investigate other alternative options as well. Here's a very recent post of mine explaining briefly, Excelsior, TESU, UMPI transfers: https://www.degreeforum.net/mybb/Thread-...#pid433696

My suggestion is to do the UMPI BBA with a concentration of your choice, if you really want it cheaper, easier, faster, the BLS with a minor or two of your choice. I would get everything evaluated again (not WES as I don't recommend them), if you get a favorable evaluation indicating you have a RA Bachelors equivalent, skip the BA and go for a Masters instead. That's a better outcome of going for a Bachelors again as you have a BBA already! Right?

Controversial choice: ENEB MBA/Masters double degree using my Ambassador link, get an evaluation from ECE and IEE as a Bachelors and grad credit. You now have two BBA equivalents (ECE and your native country), you have IEE for graduate credit for transfer into HAU MBA for $3K. You spend the next 12 months working hard on this final hurdle to get the HAU MBA, total cost would be under $4500 for all this.

Note: If you go the UMPI/UoPeople route, it'll be $1700 at the cheapest, plus $3K for the HAU MBA. This would be optimal as you have RA degree vs an evaluation for these foreign credentials and the cost difference is nominal. If you go the Excelsior/TESU or WGU route, just their program alone will be more expensive than your Bachelors and Masters combined. This is how I would hack and ladder the degree...

[chopliver2]

Many people keep asking this question, it's complex for transfers, but really simple when you grasp the concept... In brief, you have to complete 40+ classes to get 120 credits. That's why I tell people to create a spreadsheet, make sure to have 120+ credits in the correct transfer fields, and complete them like a shopping list.  UMPI/UoPeople is my recommendation once again, see your previous thread...

Basically, I've explained before, it's not the number of credits you have remaining after transfer, it's the cost, ease, speed, to finish that really counts. The two options I mentioned would be cheaper, easier, faster, and provide more ROI/Value, plus being more personalized than going the Excelsior or TESU route due to having up to 60 electives of what you want and interest you, you can get to your Masters faster...

Each person would have a different view on getting things done, they're virtually identical as Excelsior will allow 113 credits transferred, TESU will allow 114 credits transferred, and you may want to investigate other alternative options as well. Here's a very recent post of mine explaining briefly, Excelsior, TESU, UMPI transfers: https://www.degreeforum.net/mybb/Thread-...#pid433696

My suggestion is to do the UMPI BBA with a concentration of your choice, if you really want it cheaper, easier, faster, the BLS with a minor or two of your choice. I would get everything evaluated again (not WES as I don't recommend them), if you get a favorable evaluation indicating you have a RA Bachelors equivalent, skip the BA and go for a Masters instead.  That's a better outcome of going for a Bachelors again as you have a BBA already! Right?

Controversial choice: ENEB MBA/Masters double degree using my Ambassador link, get an evaluation from ECE and IEE as a Bachelors and grad credit.  You now have two BBA equivalents (ECE and your native country), you have IEE for graduate credit for transfer into HAU MBA for $3K.  You spend the next 12 months working hard on this final hurdle to get the HAU MBA, total cost would be under $4500 for all this.  

Note: If you go the UMPI/UoPeople route, it'll be $1700 at the cheapest, plus $3K for the HAU MBA.  This would be optimal as you have RA degree vs an evaluation for these foreign credentials and the cost difference is nominal.  If you go the Excelsior/TESU or WGU route, just their program alone will be more expensive than your Bachelors and Masters combined.  This is how I would hack and ladder the degree...

I want to do a Bachelor of Business in either Management and Leadership, Project Management and Information Systems, or Supply Chain Management and then Maybe a Bachelor in Criminal Justice. Then I want to do the ENEB Master which I would actually start now if I can get clarification if the agile vs non agile will be Evaluated Differently. Lastly I would complete the MAOL and one MBA from which ever institution depending on which is easier and quicker. 

- However as I mentioned previously I have RA credits already, but UMPI won’t let me know how they transfer !