"What score do you study for?"

[Westerner]

I aim to get as high a score as possible, for the same reasons as mrs. b:

Aiming for "good enough," to me, felt like confirmation of the stereotype that test-out options were cheats and shortcuts.

The reason I am pursuing my degree, is that I can be prepared in case the government requires a college education to homeschool.

Me too!!! *highfive* But I have to say, getting a degree has been a lot more FUN than I thought it'd be :roflol: Especially since CLEPs and DANTES are involved milelol:

That's a good reason for a girl to get a degree, Taylor! It's great that you've got your reasons in the right place, a lot girls still insist on going after their "dream careers", in pursuing a degree.
Another good reason (actually the only other I can think of, since I don't agree with women getting a job under normal circumstances) for a girl to study into something, is to sharpen their God given skills in preparation for whatever is in store. Who knows? If she's interested in the medical field, for instance, it may be that God has planned a doctor husband for her.
OK, just some off-topic thoughts there!

- Sam

Excellent thoughts there! :iagree:

[TayTay]

That's a good reason for a girl to get a degree, Taylor! It's great that you've got your reasons in the right place, a lot girls still insist on going after their "dream careers", in pursuing a degree.
Another good reason (actually the only other I can think of, since I don't agree with women getting a job under normal circumstances) for a girl to study into something, is to sharpen their God given skills in preparation for whatever is in store. Who knows? If she's interested in the medical field, for instance, it may be that God has planned a doctor husband for her.
OK, just some off-topic thoughts there!

- Sam

Thanks, Sam! :iagree: I am so thankful for CLEPing...it allows me to get my degree (for the purpose stated) AND I can stay under my father's protection! I am thankful the Lord answered our prayers, in providing this avenue!!!

Westerner: Me too!!! *highfive* But I have to say, getting a degree has been a lot more FUN than I thought it'd be Especially since CLEPs and DANTES are involved

*Highfive* back at'cha!!! It is fun and rewarding...haha!!!

Thanks for everyone's comments and votes...I think it's neat!

[Publius]

I treated exam study sessions as if they were an actual course. When I took actual courses, I wanted the best possible grades I could achieve. I wanted my degree to show myself and future employers that I learned something; if I didn't bother to learn anything more than the bare minimum, what did that make my degree worth? Aiming for "good enough," to me, felt like confirmation of the stereotype that test-out options were cheats and shortcuts.

You've got some good points.

There’s two ends of the spectrum here. Study and study and study and study till one gets that perfect score. Then study as little as one can get away with. Most of us are going to fall somewhere in between.

When I say I study till I know I can pass, that’s not saying hitting the bare minimum. It’s sufficient. We could keep studying, but once you hit that point where you know you’ll pass, the only thing you’re obtaining is knowledge. Knowledge that I may add will likely be forgotten after so long. There’s a medium between studying to know the material, studying till you’ll be able to pass the exam, and using the amount of time you have in an efficient manner. I try to find that medium.
The time factor is huge, for me. It’s of better benefit for me to nock out 4-5 exams sufficiently, compared to 2-3 in the same time, but with high scores. Again, that’s not to say, speed and race through everything. It’s just efficiently using my time. When a 58 = 3 credits, and a 74 = 3 credits, I never could convince my brain.

As I said, you have some excellent and good points, which I respect. Just wanted to clarify that I’m (and probably many people out there aren’t) studying for the bare minimum.



Oh, and I forgot to mention! Great thread! Awesome idea. I've enjoyed learning people's prefrences and thought process as well.

[LaceyLady]

I tend to study for a high score. I am a perfectionist and just cannot take a test unless I am sure I will pass. Which means I overstudy to reduce any chance of failure. I try to make sure that I am not anywhere close to failing so I aim to score at least a 60 (if the subject is one I like or am good at, I aim higher). Also, I love to learn and with many of the subjects, especially business/accounting, I do want to learn the material well (especially when later courses/tests build on the material). I have mostly chosen subjects that are interesting to me, so I enjoy studying them. Sometimes, if a subject that is boring, difficult, or I dislike is required, I just try to pass, but still end up taking a while and working hard on it in order to make sure I will pass. I agree with mrs.b, "good enough" just isn't good enough!

[TayTay]

When I say I study till I know I can pass, that’s not saying hitting the bare minimum. It’s sufficient. We could keep studying, but once you hit that point where you know you’ll pass, the only thing you’re obtaining is knowledge. Knowledge that I may add will likely be forgotten after so long. There’s a medium between studying to know the material, studying till you’ll be able to pass the exam, and using the amount of time you have in an efficient manner. I try to find that medium.
The time factor is huge, for me. It’s of better benefit for me to nock out 4-5 exams sufficiently, compared to 2-3 in the same time, but with high scores. Again, that’s not to say, speed and race through everything. It’s just efficiently using my time. When a 58 = 3 credits, and a 74 = 3 credits, I never could convince my brain.

As I said, you have some excellent and good points, which I respect. Just wanted to clarify that I’m (and probably many people out there aren’t) studying for the bare minimum.

Oh, and I forgot to mention! Great thread! Awesome idea. I've enjoyed learning people's prefrences and thought process as well.

Publius...great summary! Thanks...I think it is interesting what everyone likes to do! In the long-run, both ways get a pass...again, it's just preference!

[LaceyLady]

The reason I am pursuing my degree, is that I can be prepared in case the government requires a college education to homeschool.

That's a good reason for a girl to get a degree, Taylor! It's great that you've got your reasons in the right place, a lot girls still insist on going after their "dream careers", in pursuing a degree.
Another good reason (actually the only other I can think of, since I don't agree with women getting a job under normal circumstances) for a girl to study into something, is to sharpen their God given skills in preparation for whatever is in store. Who knows? If she's interested in the medical field, for instance, it may be that God has planned a doctor husband for her.

I agree, that is a good reason to get a degree. It is one of the factors for me as well. I am also in favor of women being homemakers and homeschooling their children. But I am not against women working, either from home, in a small business, or in a job (although working at home is preferable). Sometimes women need to earn their own living or supplement their husband's income. Not everyone gets married or has someone to provide their income, and I don't have a problem with single women or widows having careers. Or with married women supplementing their husband's income by working from home or running a home business. I think girls and women should prepare to be able to have a job or run a small business, just in case, even if they don't plan to have a career. It is useful to have a college degree or other skills, and be prepared for whatever might happen. We hope and plan to stay at home until we get married, marry a good husband that provides well, and live together until we get old, but it doesn't always happen quite as we plan. Either way, it is good to get a college degree, especially if we can do so efficiently and economically.

[TayTay]

I agree, that is a good reason to get a degree. It is one of the factors for me as well. I am also in favor of women being homemakers and homeschooling their children. But I am not against women working, either from home, in a small business, or in a job (although working at home is preferable). Sometimes women need to earn their own living or supplement their husband's income. Not everyone gets married or has someone to provide their income, and I don't have a problem with single women or widows having careers. Or with married women supplementing their husband's income by working from home or running a home business. I think girls and women should prepare to be able to have a job or run a small business, just in case, even if they don't plan to have a career. It is useful to have a college degree or other skills, and be prepared for whatever might happen. We hope and plan to stay at home until we get married, marry a good husband that provides well, and live together until we get old, but it doesn't always happen quite as we plan. Either way, it is good to get a college degree, especially if we can do so efficiently and economically.

Hi LaceyLady!!! I agree...there are situations, when the "ideal" is not possible. We live in a fallen world and life is not perfect. I think if we strive to honor the Lord's Word, in being "keepers at home," then He will honor our efforts. True, perfect circumstances do not always happen. I believe it is Biblical for ladies to be under the "headship" of their husbands, so as long as they are not under another man's leadership, I agree! (Very counter-cultural and different from today's "norm.") I also believe the Church has neglected their responsibilites in providing for the needs of widows. Just my two-cents worth!

Originally Posted by starlinghunter
Another good reason (actually the only other I can think of, since I don't agree with women getting a job under normal circumstances) for a girl to study into something, is to sharpen their God given skills in preparation for whatever is in store. Who knows? If she's interested in the medical field, for instance, it may be that God has planned a doctor husband for her.

(Bold is mine)

I think that is what starlinghunter was saying..."under normal circumstances."

Anyway...this is a really "off-topic," but great discussion!

[mrs.b]

Thanks for everyone's responses!!!

@mrs.b-

I see where you are coming from, though, I always try my best...sometimes I get a 55 and sometimes I get a "higher" score. "A pass is a pass," so I, personally, don't want to use unneeded time working towards an excellent score. I don't want to spend more time, than I have to, getting my degree! I really want to do other things (sew, read, garden, learn valuable "home-making" skills, etc.) and studying takes up a lot of time. The reason I am pursuing my degree, is that I can be prepared in case the government requires a college education to homeschool. One of the advantages of CLEPing is speed...

I can see where there are positives and negatives to studying, either way!

Another advantage of CLEPing is everyone can do what he or she feels like they need to do! I enjoy reading everyone's responses!!!

Blessings!

Taylor, Publius, & Others,

I can definitely respect your perspectives, and to a degree, agree with some of them. Definitely not throwing stones! It's a personal thing, of course.

Most of the time, while studying, I would tell myself, "You could pass the test today. Just go!" But, I feel that part of my job as a parent is being a role model, beyond feeding, clothing, sheltering, and teaching him how to be a good person. We encourage our son to do his best - he does not have to be perfect, nor does he have to bring home all A's (which is good, because he doesn't, and that's okay) - but he does need to apply himself and try his hardest. I always asked myself, "what would he think if he knew I was taking a shortcut?" He's special needs - Autistic - and things are very black and white, no grayscale in his world. On paper, a pass was a pass, whether it was a 51 or 80. My conscience just nagged at me until I put in the extra effort, because if he knew I stopped short of my best, it would be excuse for him to do the same which would be unacceptable. The extra one to three weeks (while enrolled in three online classes, so definitely not focused effort) was enough to satisfy my nagging conscience.

To each their own, of course. My "pass" looks just like anyone else's on our transcripts, and so long as we're each good with our reasons, motivations, and ultimate outcomes, we each only answer to ourselves in the long run.

[mrs.b]

That's a good reason for a girl to get a degree, Taylor! It's great that you've got your reasons in the right place, a lot girls still insist on going after their "dream careers", in pursuing a degree.
Another good reason (actually the only other I can think of, since I don't agree with women getting a job under normal circumstances) for a girl to study into something, is to sharpen their God given skills in preparation for whatever is in store. Who knows? If she's interested in the medical field, for instance, it may be that God has planned a doctor husband for her.
OK, just some off-topic thoughts there!

- Sam

A lot of girls got their dream careers before finishing a degree, and just want it for personal security, personal satisfaction, and to show their children that anything can be done if they apply themselves, and the other important lesson that one should finish what one starts. Some girls manage to raise children, care for households, and still contribute to the family's income (in fact, some of us are the primary breadwinners). Some girls obtained educations that not only secure their own careers, but help their husband's (when their husband's bosses prefer to call his wife for advice rather than go to their own HR departments, it is a boon to their husband's job security to be the source of that outlet).

Everyone has their own reasons and motivations. I respect a woman's - or a man's - choice to stay home and raise children and households, get a degree, work, volunteer, or whatever road we each choose to follow.

[TayTay]

mrs.b-
Taylor, Publius, & Others,

I can definitely respect your perspectives, and to a degree, agree with some of them. Definitely not throwing stones! It's a personal thing, of course.

Most of the time, while studying, I would tell myself, "You could pass the test today. Just go!" But, I feel that part of my job as a parent is being a role model, beyond feeding, clothing, sheltering, and teaching him how to be a good person. We encourage our son to do his best - he does not have to be perfect, nor does he have to bring home all A's (which is good, because he doesn't, and that's okay) - but he does need to apply himself and try his hardest. I always asked myself, "what would he think if he knew I was taking a shortcut?" He's special needs - Autistic - and things are very black and white, no grayscale in his world. On paper, a pass was a pass, whether it was a 51 or 80. My conscience just nagged at me until I put in the extra effort, because if he knew I stopped short of my best, it would be excuse for him to do the same which would be unacceptable. The extra one to three weeks (while enrolled in three online classes, so definitely not focused effort) was enough to satisfy my nagging conscience.

To each their own, of course. My "pass" looks just like anyone else's on our transcripts, and so long as we're each good with our reasons, motivations, and ultimate outcomes, we each only answer to ourselves in the long run.

mrs.b-

Like I said, I see where you coming from! I really think it is great that you are such a good example for your son and you teach him to strive to achieve! (Good characteristics!) You put forth the "extra effort" for a high score, while some put forth the "extra effort" to take the exams quickly as possible. So, I guess it's a win-win situation for all! I agree..."to each their own!" Everyone is different and has diverse goals. I respect everyone's opinion and think there are great pluses to each way of studying... Again, thanks to all for their comments!!! Looks like it's about 50/50 on studying preferences...