What's the weirdest thing you've heard someone say about college?

[davewill]

One of our moderators (rebel100), who is now inactive, said that he would throw away any resume with University of Phoenix on it because anyone who would spend all that money on such a terrible school is an idiot.

... I would have to agree with him though I didn't want to say it in my earlier post.   ...

That kind of seems like kicking someone when they're down. I've never heard anything to suggest that Univ. of Pheonix students don't get a decent education, that's all that should matter.

[sanantone]

One of our moderators (rebel100), who is now inactive, said that he would throw away any resume with University of Phoenix on it because anyone who would spend all that money on such a terrible school is an idiot.

... I would have to agree with him though I didn't want to say it in my earlier post.   ...

That kind of seems like kicking someone when they're down. I've never heard anything to suggest that Univ. of Pheonix students don't get a decent education, that's all that should matter.

No, they suck, but not any more than a lot of other non-traditional schools. I attended their sister school, and they had the same course formats.

[burbuja0512]

One of our moderators (rebel100), who is now inactive, said that he would throw away any resume with University of Phoenix on it because anyone who would spend all that money on such a terrible school is an idiot.

... I would have to agree with him though I didn't want to say it in my earlier post.   ...

That kind of seems like kicking someone when they're down. I've never heard anything to suggest that Univ. of Pheonix students don't get a decent education, that's all that should matter.

I believe that anyone can get a good education if they are motivated enough.   But I have known people to take UoP classes and I've heard the same feedback.  Basically, you can go and kick ass and take names if you want, or you can skate through it and as long as you pay your tuition on time and make a marginal attempt to turn in assignments, you'll pass.  It may not be with a 4.0, but you'll get your piece of paper.

Of course the same thing can be said for any for-profit education.   My first job was in for-profit education - in another country but it was exactly the same.   In a nutshell, you have revenue goals to meet and if people don't make it, you have to get rid of the absolute worst or you risk losing the decent students.   But other than that, you just pass people through if they can go through the motions.   If someone pays well, you do what it takes to keep them.  

So, not to say that UoP doesn't have good lessons, just like the school I worked for in Mexico had amazing English classes.  (They really did!)  It just means that like any for-profit company, the priority will always be the numbers.

[dfrecore]

I believe that anyone can get a good education if they are motivated enough.   But I have known people to take UoP classes and I've heard the same feedback.  Basically, you can go and kick ass and take names if you want, or you can skate through it and as long as you pay your tuition on time and make a marginal attempt to turn in assignments, you'll pass.  It may not be with a 4.0, but you'll get your piece of paper.

Of course the same thing can be said for any for-profit education.   My first job was in for-profit education - in another country but it was exactly the same.   In a nutshell, you have revenue goals to meet and if people don't make it, you have to get rid of the absolute worst or you risk losing the decent students.   But other than that, you just pass people through if they can go through the motions.   If someone pays well, you do what it takes to keep them.  

So, not to say that UoP doesn't have good lessons, just like the school I worked for in Mexico had amazing English classes.  (They really did!)  It just means that like any for-profit company, the priority will always be the numbers.

Ummm...hate to point this out, but this is the case for ALL schools, not just for-profits.  Maybe you haven't noticed, but kids these days aren't coming out of college as geniuses with all kinds of knowledge.  Watch any of those "about town" bits on late night TV, especially the ones on college campuses, and you'll be shocked at the stupidity of college students; and it's not getting better, it's getting worse!

https://www.wsj.com/articles/college-wou...1554936810

[sanantone]

I believe that anyone can get a good education if they are motivated enough.   But I have known people to take UoP classes and I've heard the same feedback.  Basically, you can go and kick ass and take names if you want, or you can skate through it and as long as you pay your tuition on time and make a marginal attempt to turn in assignments, you'll pass.  It may not be with a 4.0, but you'll get your piece of paper.

Of course the same thing can be said for any for-profit education.   My first job was in for-profit education - in another country but it was exactly the same.   In a nutshell, you have revenue goals to meet and if people don't make it, you have to get rid of the absolute worst or you risk losing the decent students.   But other than that, you just pass people through if they can go through the motions.   If someone pays well, you do what it takes to keep them.  

So, not to say that UoP doesn't have good lessons, just like the school I worked for in Mexico had amazing English classes.  (They really did!)  It just means that like any for-profit company, the priority will always be the numbers.

Ummm...hate to point this out, but this is the case for ALL schools, not just for-profits.  Maybe you haven't noticed, but kids these days aren't coming out of college as geniuses with all kinds of knowledge.  Watch any of those "about town" bits on late night TV, especially the ones on college campuses, and you'll be shocked at the stupidity of college students; and it's not getting better, it's getting worse!

https://www.wsj.com/articles/college-wou...1554936810

You need a subscription to read. I have free access through UF, but I don't feel like searching for my username and password. I wonder if this is an empirical study or another one of those dumb higher education articles that journalists love to write.

[Life Long Learning]

I have never been a fan of Univ. of Pheonix, but I have had one bright young Captain work for me in a combat zone who was better than 99% of B&M graduates.  He had a "hick" High school diploma, West Point BS, and Univ. of Pheonix masters degree.  I don't judge UP as fast as most.  It's still not for me.  Others will judge the Big 3 as subpar, but not me.

[sanantone]

I have never been a fan of Univ. of Pheonix, but I have had one bright young Captain work for me in a combat zone who was better than 99% of B&M graduates.  He had a "hick" High school diploma, West Point BS, and Univ. of Pheonix masters degree.  I don't judge UP as fast as most.  It's still not for me.  Others will judge the Big 3 as subpar, but not me.

Uh, he went to West Point! The UoP degree is just there because taxpayers paid for it.

[Life Long Learning]

I have never been a fan of Univ. of Pheonix, but I have had one bright young Captain work for me in a combat zone who was better than 99% of B&M graduates.  He had a "hick" High school diploma, West Point BS, and Univ. of Pheonix masters degree.  I don't judge UP as fast as most.  It's still not for me.  Others will judge the Big 3 as subpar, but not me.

Uh, he went to West Point! The UoP degree is just there because taxpayers paid for it.

I think West Point prepared him well.  Like it or not UofP was part of his background and he was better than most.  He would go on and command bigger and better units and retired.

[sanantone]

I have never been a fan of Univ. of Pheonix, but I have had one bright young Captain work for me in a combat zone who was better than 99% of B&M graduates.  He had a "hick" High school diploma, West Point BS, and Univ. of Pheonix masters degree.  I don't judge UP as fast as most.  It's still not for me.  Others will judge the Big 3 as subpar, but not me.

Uh, he went to West Point! The UoP degree is just there because taxpayers paid for it.

I think West Point prepared him well.  Like it or not UofP was part of his background and he was better than most.  He would go on and command bigger and better units and retired.

Well, West Point is highly-selective, so it wouldn't be surprising if he were brilliant. I doubt he was better than most because he got a check-the-box master's with TA.

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Since you mentioned retirement, I'm going to assume this is an older guy who probably earned his master's degree when online programs were rare.

[Life Long Learning]

I have never been a fan of Univ. of Pheonix, but I have had one bright young Captain work for me in a combat zone who was better than 99% of B&M graduates.  He had a "hick" High school diploma, West Point BS, and Univ. of Pheonix masters degree.  I don't judge UP as fast as most.  It's still not for me.  Others will judge the Big 3 as subpar, but not me.

Uh, he went to West Point! The UoP degree is just there because taxpayers paid for it.

I think West Point prepared him well.  Like it or not UofP was part of his background and he was better than most.  He would go on and command bigger and better units and retired.

Well, West Point is highly-selective, so it wouldn't be surprising if he were brilliant. I doubt he was better than most because he got a check-the-box master's with TA.

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Since you mentioned retirement as a captain, I'm going to assume this is an older guy who probably earned his master's degree when online programs were rare.

The same thing happens with B&M universities.  I know of one Masters in Outdoor Leadership where the only real requirement is a 25-page thesis.  Talk about a check-the-box.