Education Scams Are Everywhere

[davewill]

Worthless Degrees Are Creating an Unemployable Generation in India

It has the world’s largest population by some estimates, and the government regularly highlights the benefits of having more young people than any other country. Yet half of all graduates in India are unemployable in the future due to problems in the education system, according to a study by talent assessment firm Wheebox.
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One Bhopal resident, twenty-five-year-old Tanmay Mandal, paid $4,000 for his bachelor’s degree in civil engineering. He was convinced the degree was a pathway to a good job and a better lifestyle. He wasn’t deterred by the fees that were high for his family, which has a monthly income of only $420. Despite the cost, Mandal says he ended up learning almost nothing about construction from teachers who appeared to have insufficient training themselves. He couldn’t answer technical questions at job interviews, and has been unemployed for the last three years.

“I wish I had studied from a better college,” said Mandal. “Many of my friends are also sitting idle without a job,” said Mandal. He still hasn’t given up. Even though he didn’t find his last degree useful, he wants to avoid the disgrace of being unemployed and sitting idle. So, he’s signed up for a master’s degree at another private institution because he believes more degrees can at least enhance his social status.

I do wonder how clueless the students really are. Is it that hard to notice that your school's campus is non-existent and that you aren't learning anything?

[rachel83az]

From what I've heard, India is one of the countries where the paper is often way, way more important than actual skill. (Germany can be similar, though they're a bit more discerning as to where the degree came from and the actual skills of the candidate.) So, no, it probably didn't seem unusual to them. Get paper, get job, that's how it works in a lot of fields.

I'm kind of surprised that the civil engineering student hasn't gone into phone support or whatever. Maybe his spoken English isn't good enough? I guess there could be none available nearby. Working in a call center pays well enough that it's not uncommon for doctors to leave the medical profession and start working in one.

[bjcheung77]

There are many private yet 'fake' institutions across the globe or ones that are not properly accredited. I'm not surprised with this as India, Pakistan, and surrounding areas have the largest number of degree mills and unaccredited institutions. Many of these students will not be able to get a proper education, if they do get an education, it'll be sub-par to public, state or nationally recognized institutions.

[MrPanda]

Civil engineering seems like a dangerous field to have a defficient education.

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At Peru, in the pre-SUNEDU (the licensing body) days, new small schools almost always started with the dame 3 degrees: Business Administration, Laws and Accounting.

[Pats20]

There are many private yet 'fake' institutions across the globe or ones that are not properly accredited.  I'm not surprised with this as India, Pakistan, and surrounding areas have the largest number of degree mills and unaccredited institutions.  Many of these students will not be able to get a proper education, if they do get an education, it'll be sub-par to public, state or nationally recognized institutions.

That’s where lots of our doctors are coming from 

[MrPanda]

There are many private yet 'fake' institutions across the globe or ones that are not properly accredited.  I'm not surprised with this as India, Pakistan, and surrounding areas have the largest number of degree mills and unaccredited institutions.  Many of these students will not be able to get a proper education, if they do get an education, it'll be sub-par to public, state or nationally recognized institutions.

That’s where lots of our doctors are coming from 

Medical doctors or every kind of doctors?

[Johann]

There are many private yet 'fake' institutions across the globe or ones that are not properly accredited.  I'm not surprised with this as India, Pakistan, and surrounding areas have the largest number of degree mills and unaccredited institutions.  Many of these students will not be able to get a proper education, if they do get an education, it'll be sub-par to public, state or nationally recognized institutions.

That’s where lots of our doctors are coming from 

Medical doctors or every kind of doctors?

Do you mean lots of our doctors are coming from India - or that they're coming from bogus medical schools there? 

I hope you just mean they're coming from India. We have lots of Indian doctors practising in Canada - but they are all properly-educated and have been deemed well-qualified by Canadian medical authorities to do so. Since my heart operation 8 years ago (at 72) I've seen three cardiologists, all Indian - at the same clinic. All three of them are excellent. I had the same good experience in hospital twice - many Indian and Pakistani doctors there.

If you mean Indian doctors with bogus training practice here (Canada) - they don't. Good doctors are good doctors - regardless of nationality or ethnicity.

[Pats20]

There are many private yet 'fake' institutions across the globe or ones that are not properly accredited.  I'm not surprised with this as India, Pakistan, and surrounding areas have the largest number of degree mills and unaccredited institutions.  Many of these students will not be able to get a proper education, if they do get an education, it'll be sub-par to public, state or nationally recognized institutions.

That’s where lots of our doctors are coming from 

Medical doctors or every kind of doctors?

Do you mean lots of our doctors are coming from India - or that they're coming from bogus medical schools there? 

I hope you just mean they're coming from India. We have lots of Indian doctors practising in Canada - but they are all properly-educated and have been deemed well-qualified by Canadian medical authorities to do so. Since my heart operation 8 years ago (at 72) I've seen three cardiologists, all Indian - at the same clinic. All three of them are excellent. I had the same good experience in hospital twice - many Indian and Pakistani doctors there.

If you mean Indian doctors with bogus training practice here (Canada) - they don't. Good doctors are good doctors - regardless of nationality or ethnicity.

I most certainly didn’t imply that good doctors are determined by their nationality or ethnicity and I’m appalled that it was suggested.

[bjcheung77]

It's a global issue: The ones who are properly trained are fine as they have international/national standards to go through... There are a few people who fall through the accreditation cracks, and it does happen, some 'falsified' documentation and you will get people who aren't truly competent be certified accidentally until a review process is completed...