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UoPeople to Gatech
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Hi,
I am sorry if this has been asked before, I tried searching the forum for UoPeople I got a lot of results that is not exactly relevant to my situation.
I've accumulated 48+15 = 63 credits and by next term I can apply for Asc in CS from UoPeople, I do not want to gradugate Bsc from UoPeople for many reasons chief amongst which is not regionally accredited and while it's a candidate I am not sure they will get it before I graduate.
Your Location: United Arab Emirates (I am a resident)
Your Age: 37
What kind of degree do you want?: 
1. Bsc in CS from a regionally accredited university.
2. So I can apply to GaTech OMSCS later.
Current Regional Accredited Credits: 0
Current National Accredited Credits: 48
CS 2401

Software Engineering 1

98

A+

HIST 1421

Greek and Roman Civilization

99

A+

MATH 1211

Calculus

98

A+

CS 2301

Operating Systems 1

97

A

PHIL 1404

Ethics and Social Responsibility

94

A

CS 2204

Communications and Networking

98

A+

CS 3306

Databases 2

95

A

CS 1104

Computer Systems

96

A

MATH 1201

College Algebra

95

A

CS 2205

Web Programming 1

96

A

CS 1103

Programming 2

94

A

CS 2203

Databases 1

93

A

CS 1102

Programming 1

96

A

MATH 1280

Introduction to Statistics

98

A+

CS 1101

Programming Fundamentals

99

A+

UNIV 1001

Online Education Strategies

95
A

Current ACE, CLEP, or NCCRS Credits:
Sophia Credits: 15
PHIL 1402
Introduction to Philosophy
98
TC (ACE)
AHIST 1401
Art History
93
TC (ACE)
ENGL 1102
English Composition 2
91
TC (ACE)
ENVS 1301
Introduction to Environmental Sciences
96
TC (ACE)
PSYC 1504
Introduction to Psychology
97
TC (ACE)
Any certifications or military experience? IELTS (GT), C2. (8.5,8,9,8.5)


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I just got off the phone with WGU after a chain of dismissive emails, they are very adamant about not letting in international students, with my plan I could've finished the degree (Bsc Cloud Computing) in 1 term or 2 max : ( 
So I found this forum after googling for solutions, I am looking at NAU, Excelsciour, TESU.. etc and I am very confused, there is just so much information.

So tl;dr my question:
What is the cheapest (I can do 4-5k hopefully not in one payment) RA Bsc in CS hopefully not IT or cyber, that I can do that is:
A) as fast as possible (I don't want to wait another two years, or at least accepts as much sophia stuff as possible or simply accelerated).
B) Accepts non-RA or candidate RA credits like UoPeople credit, and ACE obv.
C) Be good enough in ranking or reputation where I will not be auto-rejected by Gatech when I apply.
D) Being ABET accredited the program would be nice.

Thanking you in advance,
Best,
University of Bath, United Kingdom (UK 6th, QS 150)
Master of Science in Artificial Intelligence, 2025-2027

University of York, United Kingdom (UK 19th, QS 184)
Master of Science in Computer Science with Artificial Intelligence, 2025-2027 (Transferred To Bath)

University of the People, United States
Bachelor of Science in Computer Science | Major: Artificial Intelligence, 2020-2023

University of the People, United States
Associate of Science in Computer Science | Minor: Software Engineering, 2020-2022

Georgia institute of Technology
Linear Algebra I, II, III, IV, Certificates

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Edit: Nevermind, completely misread your intention here
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#3
WGU will not accept international students. This is not new with them. They have limitations with online speeds and proctoring.

UofP is NA which makes it tricky to transfer their courses. TESU requires 24 RA credits and they don't accept NA credits. ABET is probably not realistic with NA credits.

There's no such thing as candidate RA credits. You are either RA at the time of completion or not. There's no changing it and going back.

GTech will care a great deal about your grades so keep them up.

Have you looked at the degree requirements from TESU, EU, and NAU? I wouldn't worry about trying to fit all of your courses into a degree. There will be courses that don't work.

This thread may help you:

https://www.degreeforum.net/mybb/Thread-...the-people
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#4
Just to add to your consideration, OMSCS only accepts regionally accredited bechelor's degrees.

https://omscs.gatech.edu/program-info/ad...n-criteria

Quote:For all applicants, domestic and international, the following is required for admission:
• Before you can matriculate at Georgia Tech, the Institute requires that you must have earned the appropriate academic credentials: "Evidence of award of a bachelor's degree, its equivalent, or higher degree (prior to matriculation) from a regionally accredited institution; demonstrated academic excellence; and evidence of experience in the selected field of graduate study." (Institute Catalog Reference)
• In no case can work experience substitute for having earned an academic degree.
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#5
Excelsior accepts NA credits, but they don't have a CompSci degree at all (and their IT degree can't be gotten via alt-credit).

TESU has a BACS which can be done via alt-credit + 24cr of RA, but they don't accept NA credits.

The only other schools I know of that will take NA credit AND ACE and have CompSci degrees are Franklin University and Wilmington University; both will cost >$10k and will require 30cr of residency there.
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@dude, you did the template but missed the last post addendum asking for more details here: https://www.degreeforum.net/mybb/Thread-...Area-works  

At the time being, your best option is to take the financial hit and do the TESU BACS as it'll be cheaper than SNHU and you can potentially finish faster too.

Since you can't pay for the entire $4-$5K in one payment, you might want to focus a bit more on balancing any relevant Certs, Degree, Experience.
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Georgia Tech OMSCS program doesn't require applicants to have their bachelor's from a US regionally accredited program. There are many foreign students in the program who did not do their bachelors here. I knew of several students in the program who did their BSCS at UoPeople, also not regionally accredited. Don't rely on me or anyone in this forum. You can email GaTech, and they'll confirm that UoPeople is an acceptable BSCS program.
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(11-07-2022, 10:04 PM)ifomonay Wrote: Georgia Tech OMSCS program doesn't require applicants to have their bachelor's from a US regionally accredited program. There are many foreign students in the program who did not do their bachelors here. I knew of several students in the program who did their BSCS at UoPeople, also not regionally accredited. Don't rely on me or anyone in this forum. You can email GaTech, and they'll confirm that UoPeople is an acceptable BSCS program.

I second the notion of asking the program. There might be subtleties that aren't easily discernable from the website. For example, it may matter that you are a foreign student. In the worst case, they verify that they WON'T take the UofPeople degree and you can proceed accordingly.

The other thought I've had is that although most US RA universities won't take NA credits, foreign universities are much less likely to notice or care about the NA/RA difference. They are more likely to just care that the accreditation is recognized by the US Dept. of Education.
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(11-07-2022, 04:08 PM)jsd Wrote: Edit: Nevermind, completely misread your intention here
So based on the other replies, I made a degree plan for UoPeople to Gatech OMSCS(ML), and emailed them, hopefully they say I can at least apply.
(11-07-2022, 04:09 PM)ss20ts Wrote: WGU will not accept international students. This is not new with them. They have limitations with online speeds and proctoring.

UofP is NA which makes it tricky to transfer their courses. TESU requires 24 RA credits and they don't accept NA credits. ABET is probably not realistic with NA credits.

There's no such thing as candidate RA credits. You are either RA at the time of completion or not. There's no changing it and going back.

GTech will care a great deal about your grades so keep them up.

Have you looked at the degree requirements from TESU, EU, and NAU? I wouldn't worry about trying to fit all of your courses into a degree. There will be courses that don't work.

This thread may help you:

https://www.degreeforum.net/mybb/Thread-...the-people
I thought since they made exceptions to some canadians, maybe I could apply, I explained in my application that i have a good internet connection and have expertise taking proctorU exams ergo I won't have a problem with exemity or whatever it is they use thingie, I actually made a very detailed application steelmanned for every possible rejection point. After many phone calls they flat out told me "Our accredation does not allow us to take in international students", and I was like your RA body told you not to take international students? "yes". This is a flat out lie, RA bodies obviously don't insist on this, after my research I think the owners (the governers or whatever) feel America first or something. Which is fine, just disappointed that is all.
(11-07-2022, 06:29 PM)davewill Wrote: Just to add to your consideration, OMSCS only accepts regionally accredited bechelor's degrees.

https://omscs.gatech.edu/program-info/ad...n-criteria

Quote:For all applicants, domestic and international, the following is required for admission:
•    Before you can matriculate at Georgia Tech, the Institute requires that you must have earned the appropriate academic credentials:  "Evidence of award of a bachelor's degree, its equivalent, or higher degree (prior to matriculation) from a regionally accredited institution; demonstrated academic excellence; and evidence of experience in the selected field of graduate study." (Institute Catalog Reference)
•    In no case can work experience substitute for having earned an academic degree.

That's the whole point. If Gatech would accept UoPeople Bsc I am like 85% confident I could get in, so that's good enough, it's this statement in their admission that is the driver for me not to graduate from Uopeople.
(11-07-2022, 07:06 PM)dfrecore Wrote: Excelsior accepts NA credits, but they don't have a CompSci degree at all (and their IT degree can't be gotten via alt-credit).

TESU has a BACS which can be done via alt-credit + 24cr of RA, but they don't accept NA credits.

The only other schools I know of that will take NA credit AND ACE and have CompSci degrees are Franklin University and Wilmington University; both will cost >$10k and will require 30cr of residency there.

(11-07-2022, 07:21 PM)bjcheung77 Wrote: @dude, you did the template but missed the last post addendum asking for more details here: https://www.degreeforum.net/mybb/Thread-...Area-works  

At the time being, your best option is to take the financial hit and do the TESU BACS as it'll be cheaper than SNHU and you can potentially finish faster too.

Since you can't pay for the entire $4-$5K in one payment, you might want to focus a bit more on balancing any relevant Certs, Degree, Experience.
I apologize for this, I did not see your post below with the addendum, I tried to edit my post, seems time has passed? I will add it later in a reply.
(11-07-2022, 10:04 PM)ifomonay Wrote: Georgia Tech OMSCS program doesn't require applicants to have their bachelor's from a US regionally accredited program. There are many foreign students in the program who did not do their bachelors here. I knew of several students in the program who did their BSCS at UoPeople, also not regionally accredited. Don't rely on me or anyone in this forum. You can email GaTech, and they'll confirm that UoPeople is an acceptable BSCS program.

(11-08-2022, 11:08 AM)davewill Wrote:
(11-07-2022, 10:04 PM)ifomonay Wrote: Georgia Tech OMSCS program doesn't require applicants to have their bachelor's from a US regionally accredited program. There are many foreign students in the program who did not do their bachelors here. I knew of several students in the program who did their BSCS at UoPeople, also not regionally accredited. Don't rely on me or anyone in this forum. You can email GaTech, and they'll confirm that UoPeople is an acceptable BSCS program.

I second the notion of asking the program. There might be subtleties that aren't easily discernable from the website. For example, it may matter that you are a foreign student. In the worst case, they verify that they WON'T take the UofPeople degree and you can proceed accordingly.

The other thought I've had is that although most US RA universities won't take NA credits, foreign universities are much less likely to notice or care about the NA/RA difference. They are more likely to just care that the accreditation is recognized by the US Dept. of Education.

Thank you both for this. I made a degree plan catered to Gatech (if an admin can edit my original post to include this in my credits as I will use this file now for all updates, thank u):

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1...edit#gid=0
And:
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Finger crossed they at least show some leeway or something.

In the meantime I will add the addendum to my post abotu the stuff, and slowly amend the sheet with the Purdue international, Excelsciour, TESU and the other one, is gonna be a lot of work, because even if Gatech says "maybe", that's not a guarantee of admission until I get my bsc and do the actual application so I should have some backups, will update soon.
Thank you all for the replies much appreciated.
University of Bath, United Kingdom (UK 6th, QS 150)
Master of Science in Artificial Intelligence, 2025-2027

University of York, United Kingdom (UK 19th, QS 184)
Master of Science in Computer Science with Artificial Intelligence, 2025-2027 (Transferred To Bath)

University of the People, United States
Bachelor of Science in Computer Science | Major: Artificial Intelligence, 2020-2023

University of the People, United States
Associate of Science in Computer Science | Minor: Software Engineering, 2020-2022

Georgia institute of Technology
Linear Algebra I, II, III, IV, Certificates

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WGU only allows Canadians into certain programs from what I have read. I have not seen them accept anyone from any other country. It's not an American first thing. The governors who founded the school don't run the school. There's more to accreditation than just RA. Because they are an online only school they have restrictions in their accreditation. Without reading all of the accreditation documents you wouldn't know what their resections are. The accreditation boards can impose restrictions on each individual school. They also have numerous program accreditations which may also have restrictions. ProctorU isn't the same as Examity. Pleading your case does nothing when a school has policies about international students which all schools have.
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