Tired of WGU proctoring - non-proctored alternatives

[zadaea]

Hi all, I'm currently about half way done with my WGU Comp Sci degree, 52 credits out of 120. The problem is I'm tired of these proctors, I can't understand their English usually and they have always taken me 40-60 minutes just to get started.

I'll try to explain an example, they have me take my camera around my room showing all the walls, under my desk, under my bed, under my chair. Next, position it this way specifically *different for each proctor*, now do another full room rotation, now position it again, now show your ID, *oh it doesn't show up perfectly?* Gotta turn on my laptop camera to show the ID. It goes on and on and every exam I've taken requires upwards of an hour before I can even begin. I'm sick of it. And at the end they're usually afk so I have to wait like 10+ minutes to end it.

Now I have zero issues with study.com since it's not live, you just follow the instructions and start, it's like 2 minutes.

I saw the recent court order for room privacy but that should only apply to state schools, not private schools. So I guess some state schools will be an option now?

I'm perfectly fine with doing essays, projects, and group discussion boards.

So to sum it up, my main requirement is non-proctored BS CS.
Bonuses: Not too expensive, I get 6.7k pell grant and I'm okay with paying a little bit.
Bonuses: I do love the faster style of WGU and accelerating at your own pace, it's hard to find programs like that for computer science though.

I've looked far and wide at all the available options I can find and tried to reduce it down a bit, here is what I know.

SNHU - non-proctored, seems like the best option so far, it's just a bit slow, so I'll probably do more study.com courses and try to reach 80-90 credits before starting.

UMGC - pretty sure it's non-proctored, same as SNHU just a bit more expensive.

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Liberty has a BS in computer science cyber security and doesn't seem proctored from what I looked at, but I'm not too interested in that.

Franklin University, unsure about.

Wilmington University, unsure.

And then ones I know very little about, such as,

FHSU? - https://www.fhsu.edu/cs/academic-program...r-science/ idk much about it yet

https://www.minotstateu.edu/enroll/progr...ence.shtml - has some type of real-time program, but that will probably be an issue since I sometimes work night shift.

https://www.rasmussen.edu/ -  saw they have an online option, but it's a for-profit university..


Two different OSU CS programs (Ohio state and Oklahoma state) both online

CSU Global CS

ASU software engineering

UA Grantham BSCS (University of Arkansas) 

This is everything I've found after researching a few days. I live in North Carolina and the only online program I could find for my state that is cheap is Fayetteville University but I'm not sure how much actually transfers.

Any advice would be appreciated, I'm probably going with SNHU but I would love to make an informed decision.

[bjcheung77]

Interesting... hmm, I would recommend you TESU since you're into Study.com courses!  Basically, you already have RA credits from WGU, you can transfer in the rest of the credits by doing a Sophia.org and Study.com combo for the TESU BACS.  

Basically, I would do the 16 credit flat rate tuition to "finish" off the degree, if it's too much for you, then do a double degree along with BSBA CIS for about the same price, do a flat rate term and the two capstones together on another term.

It's best to provide us more details by following this template and the last post addendum, we can see if competency based is best for your situation or SNHU, TESU, or another university would hit the spot: https://www.degreeforum.net/mybb/Forum-D...ing-Advice

[bluebooger]

... then do a double degree along with BSBA CIS ...

I've seen that recommend on here many times                
i guess its just me, but why would anybody want to take those courses LOL 
https://www.tesu.edu/business/undergradu...on-systems

Business Law
Principles of Financial Accounting
Principles of Managerial Accounting
International Management
and all the rest 
yuck !

I know an argument can be made that those courses combined with a CS degree could make you more valuable to certain types of companies, but still .. 
ugh 

just me I guess

[origamishuttle]

Hi all, I'm currently about half way done with my WGU Comp Sci degree, 52 credits out of 120. The problem is I'm tired of these proctors, I can't understand their English usually and they have always taken me 40-60 minutes just to get started.

Have you tried discussing this with your mentor and/or student services? There may be some alternate accommodations available.

I'm perfectly fine with doing essays, projects, and group discussion boards.
Bonuses: I do love the faster style of WGU and accelerating at your own pace, it's hard to find programs like that for computer science though.

There are a lot of non-exam courses in the WGU BSCS degree program. Have you considered taking these courses before quitting?

SNHU - non-proctored, seems like the best option so far, it's just a bit slow, so I'll probably do more study.com courses and try to reach 80-90 credits before starting.

Unlike WGU, SNHU allows you to transfer while enrolled. If you have finalized your decision about leaving WGU and starting at SNHU, there's no need to wait.

[LevelUP]

Here are the degree plans for computer science

WGU
https://degreeforum.miraheze.org/wiki/WG...egree_Plan

TESU
https://degreeforum.miraheze.org/wiki/Sa...ience_Plan

SNHU
https://degreeforum.miraheze.org/wiki/SN...egree_Plan

[rachel83az]

Since you're already into SDC courses, I would also recommend TESU as an option! Depending on what you've already completed, you may be able to finish TESU even more quickly than you'd be able to finish at WGU. Especially if you're putting off exams at WGU due to proctoring issues.

... then do a double degree along with BSBA CIS ...

I've seen that recommend on here many times                
i guess its just me, but why would anybody want to take those courses LOL 
https://www.tesu.edu/business/undergradu...on-systems

Business Law
Principles of Financial Accounting
Principles of Managerial Accounting
International Management
and all the rest 
yuck !

I know an argument can be made that those courses combined with a CS degree could make you more valuable to certain types of companies, but still .. 
ugh 

just me I guess

Business Law and Financial Accounting at Sophia were actually not bad; Business Law was actually kind of interesting. Managerial Accounting is the worst, IMO. I'm still working on that one. The others are whatever.

FWIW, I was surprised to learn recently that what we consider to be "business" classes were (and possibly still are) required for a pure Engineering degree in a certain European country. A country where you neither have gen eds nor free electives as such. Still, you MUST take accounting/economics because a.) you might go into business for yourself and b.) even if you don't go into business for yourself, employers want you to be aware of economic constraints so you don't cost them a bunch of money. Sounds like a good idea to me.

[sarahmac]

... then do a double degree along with BSBA CIS ...

I've seen that recommend on here many times                
i guess its just me, but why would anybody want to take those courses LOL 
https://www.tesu.edu/business/undergradu...on-systems

Business Law
Principles of Financial Accounting
Principles of Managerial Accounting
International Management
and all the rest 
yuck !

I know an argument can be made that those courses combined with a CS degree could make you more valuable to certain types of companies, but still .. 
ugh 

just me I guess

A lot of the business core (finance, financial accounting, business law, introduction to information technology, principles of management, micro, macro, statistics, and potentially their new one, business communications) can be done on Sophia, non-proctored, in a couple days if you just push through it. Sophia is open book, and a month's subscription is currently 75 bucks. Quantitative skills is 30 bucks via CSM Learn with a voucher code, also only takes a day or so if you can do math.

That only leaves three that are more effort: managerial accounting, international business, and marketing.

I guess a lot of people who do it don't want to take these classes, but it isn't much effort for a proportionately bigger reward if you think you might like to go into upper management at some point.

[akr680]

Hi all, I'm currently about half way done with my WGU Comp Sci degree, 52 credits out of 120. The problem is I'm tired of these proctors, I can't understand their English usually and they have always taken me 40-60 minutes just to get started.

I'll try to explain an example, they have me take my camera around my room showing all the walls, under my desk, under my bed, under my chair. Next, position it this way specifically *different for each proctor*, now do another full room rotation, now position it again, now show your ID, *oh it doesn't show up perfectly?* Gotta turn on my laptop camera to show the ID. It goes on and on and every exam I've taken requires upwards of an hour before I can even begin. I'm sick of it. And at the end they're usually afk so I have to wait like 10+ minutes to end it.

Now I have zero issues with study.com since it's not live, you just follow the instructions and start, it's like 2 minutes.

I saw the recent court order for room privacy but that should only apply to state schools, not private schools. So I guess some state schools will be an option now?

I'm perfectly fine with doing essays, projects, and group discussion boards.

So to sum it up, my main requirement is non-proctored BS CS.
Bonuses: Not too expensive, I get 6.7k pell grant and I'm okay with paying a little bit.
Bonuses: I do love the faster style of WGU and accelerating at your own pace, it's hard to find programs like that for computer science though.

I've looked far and wide at all the available options I can find and tried to reduce it down a bit, here is what I know.

SNHU - non-proctored, seems like the best option so far, it's just a bit slow, so I'll probably do more study.com courses and try to reach 80-90 credits before starting.

UMGC - pretty sure it's non-proctored, same as SNHU just a bit more expensive.

----------------

Liberty has a BS in computer science cyber security and doesn't seem proctored from what I looked at, but I'm not too interested in that.

Franklin University, unsure about.

Wilmington University, unsure.

And then ones I know very little about, such as,

FHSU? - https://www.fhsu.edu/cs/academic-program...r-science/ idk much about it yet

https://www.minotstateu.edu/enroll/progr...ence.shtml - has some type of real-time program, but that will probably be an issue since I sometimes work night shift.

https://www.rasmussen.edu/ -  saw they have an online option, but it's a for-profit university..


Two different OSU CS programs (Ohio state and Oklahoma state) both online

CSU Global CS

ASU software engineering

UA Grantham BSCS (University of Arkansas) 

This is everything I've found after researching a few days. I live in North Carolina and the only online program I could find for my state that is cheap is Fayetteville University but I'm not sure how much actually transfers.

Any advice would be appreciated, I'm probably going with SNHU but I would love to make an informed decision.

How about Purdue Global University? They are assignment and project based.

[bluebooger]

> SNHU - non-proctored, seems like the best option so far, it's just a bit slow

so how do they work ?

papers ? projects ? graded, but non-proctored assignments ?
and what makes it slow ?

[rachel83az]

SNHU is a more traditional university. Once you transfer in 90 credits, you can't accelerate beyond that. So, it'll take another 1-2 years to get your degree. That works for some people, not for others.