The Dream Act

[april004]

Thoughts?

For it? Against it?

As a daughter of an immigrant(my mom) I am for it. Granted my father was an American serviceman so I automatically have citizenship through him.(thanks dad for being one of the FEW honorable servicemen who got a third world woman pregnant and decided to bring her over so your daugter wouldn't have to fight to prove she is American)


Yes I say Few because I met so many half American people my age in my mother's hometown who were ABANDONED by their serviceman fathers. Guess what the poor girls of American military parentage are doing for a living now? So yeah...FEW. So yes, I get really angry.

Personally I would article 15 any serviceman who got involved with a native girl. ( Good think I am not in charge, right?)

In my mother's hometown I actually had one nasty(I think German guy) try to buy me. ( I have this odd fascination with red light districts. Especially because so many of them are full of women that are half, just like me. All i can think of is - there but by the grace of god go I...) So I really shouldn't have been wandering around unchaperoned there, but here I am giving my money to prostitutes as if my piddly change might help them escape.

Let's just say he wouldn't be purchasing any other half american girls for quite some time because I kicked him. He tried to punish me too after i kicked him down under and told me I was going to pay for what I did(HA!)....but then I told him in my very American voice that he tried to buy the wrong female and if I ever saw him in those parts he would be dead.

Not that I would have the first clue what to do if I saw him again. But I think I scared him. I guess he realized that I wasn't just one of these half American girls that had been abandoned. I was a card carrying American.

It does scare me though to think how he would have made me pay had I not been American. The kind of power men like that have. Makes me very upset.


Anyways, I got off topic. But the Dream Act is for those who entered the US as minors with their parents illegally. Alot of these kids don't know the language of their home country. They don't even know they are illegal until they try to apply to college or the military.

The Dream Act would grant citizenship to those who graduate with a college degree or serve in the military.

So that would stop all the people that complain about the immigrants taking the dishwasher jobs away.

Plus as former military I see alot of frat boys in the Lincoln Park and Lakeview area of Chicago, partying up a storm near Wrigley Field. Do you know what the first thing I think of when I see them?

These young boys should be serving our country. They are healthy, "smart", why are they not serving?

Sheez....I am a woman, smaller, "weaker" and I served!

Plus their parents and grandparents are probably complaining about the Mexicans anyways. If you kids or grandkids won't serve...and illegal immigrants will. LET THEM and I think citizenship would be a good reward for serving especially when there are so many American men nowadays who don't and won't

Actually I can't think of more undeserving people of American citizenship than those frat boys in Lakeview and Lincoln Park.

[ryoder]

It sounds like a nice thing to do but you have to realize that this country has the most liberal immigration policy in the world already.
Nations need to regulate immigration tightly to ensure that natural resources, govt programs etc aren't used up and that our security is ensured.

There are many ways to enter the country legally and I think people should use these instead of the illegal ways.

Immigrant Population number of immigrants (most recent) by country

It shows here and in various statistics just how many immigrants the US has. I think other countries could learn a lot from our liberal immigration policies. Like Mexico which has horrible conditions of immigration such as racial quotas.

[april004]

Well if you are 2 yrs old, and coming from Mexico with your parents, you aren't thinking of whether or not to come into the US legally or not. As is the case with a friend of mine. The whole time she had thought she was born in the US...only to find out she was not.

She does not know Spanish either.

What her parents did was wrong...and i am not one for just giving citizenship away either, but the cases of these children brought over here at such a young age....ones who don't even know the language of their parents, it's CRUEL to send them back.

[bawhitsett]

It would never happen as this country is too liberal but I personally think the best way to approach this is to have a blanket policy that says, regardless of how you ended up here, if you're illegally here yet want to remain here you should be forced to go back to your country of origin and petition to be able to come here through legal channels. If you don't speak the language of your native country it's not my problem as an American citizen and taxpayer to support you or get you up to speed. If I wanted to go to their country to live and work I'd expect no different.

[creationstory]

I am the son of an immigrant mother. My grandfather is another immigrant!

My mother though came here LEGALLY! not ILLEGALLY! My grandfather came to america at age 11, LEGALLY!

I am not against immigration, but you can only blame the parents for this. The USA makes it possible for someone to receive a free education through high school. Should they be citizens? NO! You can't blame a nation that has already does a whole lot for them! This is not a nation of victims! Take responsibility for your actions or the actions of your parents!

[Maniac Craniac]

Take responsibility for your actions or the actions of your parents!

Yeah, that's a good one. Not only should people have to live with the consequences of what people did before they were born, they should also take responsibility for them. In that case, why don't we just free all parents from prison and place their children in their stead?

[bawhitsett]

Yeah, that's a good one. Not only should people have to live with the consequences of what people did before they were born, they should also take responsibility for them. In that case, why don't we just free all parents from prison and place their children in their stead?

Are you saying it's on me as a citizen and taxpayer to take responsibility for them?

[Maniac Craniac]

Are you saying it's on me as a citizen and taxpayer to take responsibility for them?

I have no idea what you are talking about. I said what I said, which did not include expressing my opinion on this matter, and will not either.

I will however say, for argument's sake, that if you allow these people to become legal citizens (which is what their goal is), then they will be paying along with you, so you'd have nothing left to be upset about milelol:

[bawhitsett]

I have no idea what you are talking about. I said what I said, which did not include expressing my opinion on this matter, and will not either.

I will however say, for argument's sake, that if you allow these people to become legal citizens (which is what their goal is), then they will be paying along with you, so you'd have nothing left to be upset about milelol:

Those kids that were brought here illegally by their parents when they were very young are still here illegally. No, they didn't make the choice, but if they wish to remain here they need to take responsibility for that decision and proceed down the same path to residency / citizenship as every other person who wants to be here yet currently legally can't be. We would be expected to act no differently if we wanted to move to their country of origin.

Have you seen how Mexico and most other countries treat illegal immigrants? And yet the citizens of these countries who are here illegally think they have the right to riot in our streets and demand more? F them.

[Maniac Craniac]

Those kids that were brought here illegally by their parents when they were very young are still here illegally. No, they didn't make the choice, but if they wish to remain here they need to take responsibility for that decision and proceed down the same path to residency / citizenship as every other person who wants to be here yet currently legally can't be. We would be expected to act no differently if we wanted to move to their country of origin.

Have you seen how Mexico and most other countries treat illegal immigrants? And yet the citizens of these countries who are here illegally think they have the right to riot in our streets and demand more? F them.

Most of what you say makes sense to me. As for the rioters- freedom of peaceful assembly is SPECIFICALLY granted to U.S. citizens, not people who just so happen to be standing on the same land as the rest of us. Of course, unpeaceful assembly is not a right granted to anyone at all.