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[cookderosa]

:iagree: I coursed high school in Colombia. 11th grade math over there is the equivalent of Calculus I here. College Algebra is 9th grade Math over there.

Depends on where you go to school and how smart you are, my high school offered calculus as well as a multitude of AP courses, and that was 100 years ago. 'Course not everyone lands in that track.

My homeschool runs according to mastery. Simply put, go as high as you can. My kids do math 2 hours per day 5 days per week year round through 12th grade. If you can't get past 1+1 that's fine, but you're doing 1+1 over and over again for 2 hours every day until 12th grade graduation. hilarious Seriously, there is no point in saying you've completed this course title or that if you lack the intuition of the subject (notice I didn't say grade). I don't even award grades, if you miss one, do it again. There's no point, because anything completed is completed perfectly. I don't mean to sound smug, but I think our high school kids would go SOOOOO much further if they would slow ALLLLL the way down in grade school and middle school. They teach too broadly, most kids lack a foundation and as soon as they get into early algebra it's too late.

[Lindagerr]

I am tired of hearing about how American schools do it wrong. In America we have to educate EVERY student.

Some students are learning disabled so they go slower and maybe they don't even attempt Algebra. Most students fall somewhere in the middle and they get through Algebra I Geometry and Maybe Algebra II by the end of High School. On the Top end of the spectrem we have the kids that work thier butt off study all the time have little to no social life and do AP Calculus in High school. If you figure out the percentage of kids in the US that do take the higher courses I think we do OK in a world rating.

I do not know the percentage of students that graduate in rural areas of the US compared to Rural areas of other countries. I do not know the percentage of students that take AP courses, but I do know that we do offer something for everyone. That is what America is all about.

I am not saying Public school is better or worse then Private school or Homescholling I am saying it is nice that we all have a choice.

[BrandeX]

Here is a comparison with a few comments on some other site I saw recently.
Education Rankings by Country |

[Lindagerr]

Thank You BrandX I enjoyed looking that over, and reading the comments.

My favorite one was how the US treats teachers with no respect. I am not saying “all teachers are underpaid”, but we do not give teachers respect. Politicians, parents, and the media love to publicize the bad. All of these just leads to the undermining of our authority. It is hard to get students to participate and learn if the do not respect the teacher and/or his/her authority.

I do see fom that report that the US is improving, I think we have ways to make things better we just have to work on a few more.

This past Junr-Sept. Common Core curriculum standards were adopted by 41 states and The US Virgin Islands. This might put the US in a different place in furue statistics. In the past you were rolling Very high standard in some states in with very low standards of other states.

We have hi jacked this thread maybe we should move this discussion.

[slimcustomer]

Slimcustomer if I were you I would appeal it. I was told conflicting things until I went to the top. Unless they can show you where they have changed this in writing they should give credit. I got the credit in March 2010.

No need, I ended up taking the College Mathematics CLEP exam which overlaps with what TESC would have given me for ALEKS Beginning Algebra anyway.

[NAP]

I suppose that is fair. Beginning Algebra is middle school or freshman high school level for most of us I believe. My wife (Chinese) has made a comment or two in the past about our (USA) math and sci levels in university, being at the middle school or high school level here in China.

This also depends on the major. Calculus is often the minimum for math and science-related majors, which means no credit is given for anything lower, not even free-elective credit. Other majors have a math requirement, but it is usually not as advanced as Calculus.