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OE800_85 Wrote:Hospitals arent run by the government, though ryoder. I just posted an eye-popping article on health care costs, I think you'd like it. If medicine is privatized, it becomes this terrible form of capitalism where the buyer has no choice and no power. WHen you have an emergency you don't have time to really choose which hospital you go to. The government, however, has this power as a large buyer. For example, if you paid a 100$ "chargemaster" price for advil, medicare would have likely paid 10 dollars for it. It's much more than in a shop, but still considerably less than you as a powerless buyer could negotiate. In countries with more nationalized health care costs are lower, not higher, because of this very principle. The US government spends more money (per capita) than any nation in the world on health care, and people still have to often pay out of pocket. It's gotten ridiculous and needs to stop.

I'm sorry to say that prices with nationalised health services aren't always lower,
two personal examples: hearing loss in my left ear currently waiting for a hearing test with the government doctor, so far I've been waiting two years!
(it costs less to administer their office because they don't address the workload this keeps costs low)

Lower spine problem: collapsing every twenty feet, wait time for an MRI took nine months that's a lot of falling over! one MRI funded by taxes for a whole county costs less but doesn't help to heal people.

Costs to do these tests privately might be less but then in Ireland our taxes are higher too! Free markets always allow us to choose and not have to wait for the taxpayer to pay for our treatment. I was poor and unemployed and so didn't have the choice but if I had a job I wouldn't have waited nine months for an MRI so government control over taxes or healthcare is not always up to standard of a business
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Taxes? - by quasarvs - 02-22-2013, 03:56 PM
Taxes? - by ryoder - 02-22-2013, 10:06 PM
Taxes? - by sanantone - 02-22-2013, 11:04 PM
Taxes? - by scorched - 02-22-2013, 11:08 PM
Taxes? - by LaterBloomer - 02-23-2013, 08:10 AM
Taxes? - by bluebooger - 02-23-2013, 08:17 AM
Taxes? - by mrs.b - 02-23-2013, 10:51 AM
Taxes? - by merolpn - 02-23-2013, 12:02 PM
Taxes? - by ryoder - 02-23-2013, 12:21 PM
Taxes? - by LaterBloomer - 02-23-2013, 12:22 PM
Taxes? - by merolpn - 02-23-2013, 12:34 PM
Taxes? - by ryoder - 02-23-2013, 12:37 PM
Taxes? - by merolpn - 02-23-2013, 12:42 PM
Taxes? - by mrs.b - 02-23-2013, 01:34 PM
Taxes? - by LaterBloomer - 02-23-2013, 03:34 PM
Taxes? - by EI2HCB - 02-23-2013, 03:40 PM
Taxes? - by ryoder - 02-23-2013, 07:31 PM
Taxes? - by Publius - 02-23-2013, 08:01 PM
Taxes? - by ryoder - 02-23-2013, 09:52 PM
Taxes? - by OE800_85 - 02-23-2013, 10:01 PM
Taxes? - by EI2HCB - 02-25-2013, 01:56 PM
Taxes? - by merolpn - 02-25-2013, 04:07 PM
Taxes? - by OE800_85 - 02-25-2013, 07:43 PM
Taxes? - by merolpn - 02-25-2013, 08:51 PM
Taxes? - by OE800_85 - 02-26-2013, 10:25 AM
Taxes? - by merolpn - 02-26-2013, 02:20 PM
Taxes? - by OE800_85 - 02-26-2013, 08:01 PM
Taxes? - by NumberSix - 02-27-2013, 05:41 AM
Taxes? - by Daithi - 02-27-2013, 11:03 AM
Taxes? - by Publius - 02-27-2013, 11:25 AM
Taxes? - by merolpn - 02-27-2013, 12:13 PM
Taxes? - by merolpn - 02-27-2013, 12:59 PM
Taxes? - by NumberSix - 02-27-2013, 07:43 PM
Taxes? - by merolpn - 02-27-2013, 07:59 PM
Taxes? - by quasarvs - 02-27-2013, 11:40 PM
Taxes? - by OE800_85 - 02-28-2013, 12:31 AM
Taxes? - by quasarvs - 02-28-2013, 11:06 AM
Taxes? - by Publius - 02-28-2013, 12:12 PM
Taxes? - by EI2HCB - 02-28-2013, 12:53 PM
Taxes? - by EI2HCB - 02-28-2013, 12:54 PM
Taxes? - by gohawks88 - 02-28-2013, 12:56 PM
Taxes? - by quasarvs - 02-28-2013, 01:22 PM
Taxes? - by quasarvs - 02-28-2013, 01:23 PM
Taxes? - by quasarvs - 02-28-2013, 02:12 PM
Taxes? - by Daithi - 02-28-2013, 02:41 PM
Taxes? - by quasarvs - 02-28-2013, 02:55 PM
Taxes? - by merolpn - 02-28-2013, 04:33 PM
Taxes? - by merolpn - 02-28-2013, 04:46 PM
Taxes? - by OE800_85 - 03-01-2013, 10:05 AM
Taxes? - by Publius - 03-01-2013, 11:02 AM
Taxes? - by OE800_85 - 03-01-2013, 11:28 AM
Taxes? - by Publius - 03-01-2013, 11:57 AM
Taxes? - by merolpn - 03-01-2013, 03:10 PM
Taxes? - by merolpn - 03-01-2013, 03:29 PM
Taxes? - by OE800_85 - 03-01-2013, 09:05 PM
Taxes? - by Publius - 03-01-2013, 09:58 PM
Taxes? - by merolpn - 03-02-2013, 12:17 AM
Taxes? - by OE800_85 - 03-02-2013, 08:53 PM

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