TESU: Math BA, Business Administration AS

[ed209uardo]

The TESU Award of Degrees Policy does state the additional 24 credits “must be in the area of study and/or core of the degree.” The capstone does count toward that 24.

Thank you. What about the bullet point right after that?

Additionally, students must complete all other degree requirements as listed in the current Thomas Edison State University Catalog.

[LevelUP]

When you already have a bachelor’s degree, the general education requirements are waived, including the cornerstone requirement.

The additional 24 credits can be in any subject and do include the capstone.

It shouldn’t take very much work to earn a bachelor’s degree in math. I would send your transcripts to TESU and have them evaluated.

Are the GE requirements still waived if I also attempt an Associates along with the Bachelors?

The requirements are:


Earning an Associate Degree after earning a Baccalaureate, advanced, or professional Degree
Students who have earned a baccalaureate, advanced or professional degree from TESU or an accredited institution recognized under the Thomas Edison State University Transfer Credit Policy and who then apply for an associate degree must:

• Complete a minimum of 12 credits in the option, or in the general education electives if there is not an option, including the required Capstone, if applicable. These credits must be earned after the date the most recent degree, regardless of academic level, was conferred.
  
  
• These credits must be earned after the date the most recent degree, regardless of academic level, was conferred.
  

https://tesu.smartcatalogiq.com/en/curre...e%20degree.

Since you already have a degree, TESU will not make you repeat your General Education requirements. Instead, they require you to earn 12 new credits to validate the new degree.

Those 12 new credits for AS Math can be from Mathematics requirements or electives.

[Jonathan Whatley]

The TESU Award of Degrees Policy does state the additional 24 credits “must be in the area of study and/or core of the degree.” The capstone does count toward that 24.

Thank you. What about the bullet point right after that?

Additionally, students must complete all other degree requirements as listed in the current Thomas Edison State University Catalog.

That basically restates that you have to meet each requirement of your major, concentration, etc.

[fmsoa]

The TESU Award of Degrees Policy does state the additional 24 credits “must be in the area of study and/or core of the degree.” The capstone does count toward that 24.

That's exactly why I recommend OP to get a master's instead of BA and AS. It's actually cheaper and take much less time.

For example, OP can enroll in a Math master's program anywhere and use those 24 graduate credit hours to apply to both of his TESU BA and AS degree plans, thus getting three degrees for the price of one!

As long as OP makes sure his TESU BA and AS degree completion comes before his master's, all he needs to pay at TESU is the Liberal Arts Capstone (~$1700) and residency waiver (~$3300). That's how I earned my TESU BACS using CS graduate credits from GT OMSCS, taking only one single class from TESU

[ed209uardo]

The TESU Award of Degrees Policy does state the additional 24 credits “must be in the area of study and/or core of the degree.” The capstone does count toward that 24.

Thank you. What about the bullet point right after that?

Additionally, students must complete all other degree requirements as listed in the current Thomas Edison State University Catalog.

That basically restates that you have to meet each requirement of your major, concentration, etc.

Does that include meeting the GE requirements? For example, I have not previously taken a course that would fulfill the Oral Communication requirement.

[Jonathan Whatley]

Does that include meeting the GE requirements?

No. GE requirements are waived by your prior bachelor’s degree.

[ed209uardo]

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MDCC Credits (20th century): 6 semester hours (originally 9 quarter hours)

• math 3110: Intro To Higher Algebra - 2 (3 qtr hours)
  
• math 3XXX: Math Elective-3000 Level - 2 (3 qtr hours)
  
• math 4107: Intro to Abstract Algebra I - 2 (3 qtr hours)
  

GT Credits (20th century; includes AP credits): 35.33 semester hours (originally 53 quarter hours)

• chem 1101: General Chemistry I - 3.33 (5 qtr hours)
  
• chem 1102: General Chemistry II - 3.33 (5 qtr hours)
  
• engl 1002: Analysis Of Literature & Language II - 2 (3 qtr hours)
  
• hist 1001: U.S. History To 1865 - 2 AP (3 qtr hours)
  
• hps 1040: Health Education - 2 (3 qtr hours)
  
• math 1507: Calculus I - 3.33 AP (5 qtr hours)
  
• math 1508: Calculus II - 3.33 AP (5 qtr hours)
  
• math 1509: Calculus III - 3.33 (5 qtr hours)
  
• math 2507: Calculus IV - 3.33 (5 qtr hours)
  
• math 2508: Calculus V (mostly Linear Algebra) - 2 (3 qtr hours)
  
• math 3012: Applied Combinatorics - 2 (3 qtr hours)
  
• phys 2121: Particle Dynamics - 3.33 (5 qtr hours)
  
• pol 1251: Government Of The U.S. - 2 AP (3 qtr hours)
  

GT Credits (21st century): 88 semester hours

• coa 2242: History of Art II - 3
  
• cs 1100: Freshman Leap Seminar - 1
  
• cs 1301: Intro to Computing - 3
  
• cs 1331: Intro to Object Oriented Programming - 3
  
• cs 1332: Data Structures & Algorithms - 3
  
• cs 2050: Intro to Discrete Math for CS - 3
  
• cs 2110: Computer Organization & Programming - 4
  
• cs 2200: Systems and Networks - 4
  
• cs 2340: Objects and Design - 3
  
• cs 3311: Project Design - 1
  
• cs 3312: Project Implementation - 2
  
• cs 3451: Computer Graphics - 3
  
• cs 3510: Design & Analysis of Algorithms - 3
  
• cs 3600: Intro to Artificial Intelligence - 3
  
• cs 4235: Intro to Information Security - 3
  
• cs 4400: Intro to Database Systems - 3
  
• cs 4455: Video Game Design - 3
  
• cs 4590: Computer Audio - 3
  
• cs 4675: Internet Systems & Services - 3
  
• cs 4863: Special Topics - Computing, Society, & Professionalism - 3
  
• cx 4010: Computational Problem Solving - 3
  
• econ 2106: Principles of Microeconomics - 3
  
• engl 1101: English Composition I - 3
  
• gt 2100: Success Seminar - 1
  
• hist 2112: United States since 1877 - 3
  
• lmc 3214: Science Fiction - 3
  
• lmc 3431: Technical Communication Approaches - 1
  
• lmc 3432: Technical Communication Strategies - 2
  
• math 2106: Foundations of Mathematical Proof - 3
  
• math 2802: Special Topics - Applications of Linear Algebra - 2
  
• math 3215: Probability & Statistics - 3 (single D grade)
  
• phys 2212: Intro to Physics II - 4
  

Is the brick and mortar college you graduated from Georgia Tech? It looks like it because that's most of your credits were from.

If that's the case, why not just go for GT's OMS Cybersecurity? It's only $10K for a master's degree

That is the case, and their Cybersecurity degree is on my radar.

That would be an expense and time sink I am not quite ready for yet.

The problem you have:
1. Linear Algebra only 2 cr, may need to take it again
2. Statistics with a D (not sure whether it's transferable)
3. Need 10 more hours of UPPER LEVEL Mathematics Electives
4. Need a total of 24 new cr after your first BSCS degree
5. Liberal Arts Capstone (~$1700) is mandatory
6. Residency Waiver of $3354 if <15 TESU resident hours

After all that, would an OMS Cybersecurity be that much more expensive or actually cheaper than a 2nd bachelor's?

For your third point, how many UL math credits do I need overall? I count 11 3XXX-level math credits, out of 31 math credits (34 if they count CS-2050).

Oh, and would most all my CS classes come in under Natural Sciences and Mathematics Electives? Would that help to offset required upper level credits?

[fmsoa]

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MDCC Credits (20th century): 6 semester hours (originally 9 quarter hours)

• math 3110: Intro To Higher Algebra - 2 (3 qtr hours)
  
• math 3XXX: Math Elective-3000 Level - 2 (3 qtr hours)
  
• math 4107: Intro to Abstract Algebra I - 2 (3 qtr hours)
  

GT Credits (20th century; includes AP credits): 35.33 semester hours (originally 53 quarter hours)

• chem 1101: General Chemistry I - 3.33 (5 qtr hours)
  
• chem 1102: General Chemistry II - 3.33 (5 qtr hours)
  
• engl 1002: Analysis Of Literature & Language II - 2 (3 qtr hours)
  
• hist 1001: U.S. History To 1865 - 2 AP (3 qtr hours)
  
• hps 1040: Health Education - 2 (3 qtr hours)
  
• math 1507: Calculus I - 3.33 AP (5 qtr hours)
  
• math 1508: Calculus II - 3.33 AP (5 qtr hours)
  
• math 1509: Calculus III - 3.33 (5 qtr hours)
  
• math 2507: Calculus IV - 3.33 (5 qtr hours)
  
• math 2508: Calculus V (mostly Linear Algebra) - 2 (3 qtr hours)
  
• math 3012: Applied Combinatorics - 2 (3 qtr hours)
  
• phys 2121: Particle Dynamics - 3.33 (5 qtr hours)
  
• pol 1251: Government Of The U.S. - 2 AP (3 qtr hours)
  

GT Credits (21st century): 88 semester hours

• coa 2242: History of Art II - 3
  
• cs 1100: Freshman Leap Seminar - 1
  
• cs 1301: Intro to Computing - 3
  
• cs 1331: Intro to Object Oriented Programming - 3
  
• cs 1332: Data Structures & Algorithms - 3
  
• cs 2050: Intro to Discrete Math for CS - 3
  
• cs 2110: Computer Organization & Programming - 4
  
• cs 2200: Systems and Networks - 4
  
• cs 2340: Objects and Design - 3
  
• cs 3311: Project Design - 1
  
• cs 3312: Project Implementation - 2
  
• cs 3451: Computer Graphics - 3
  
• cs 3510: Design & Analysis of Algorithms - 3
  
• cs 3600: Intro to Artificial Intelligence - 3
  
• cs 4235: Intro to Information Security - 3
  
• cs 4400: Intro to Database Systems - 3
  
• cs 4455: Video Game Design - 3
  
• cs 4590: Computer Audio - 3
  
• cs 4675: Internet Systems & Services - 3
  
• cs 4863: Special Topics - Computing, Society, & Professionalism - 3
  
• cx 4010: Computational Problem Solving - 3
  
• econ 2106: Principles of Microeconomics - 3
  
• engl 1101: English Composition I - 3
  
• gt 2100: Success Seminar - 1
  
• hist 2112: United States since 1877 - 3
  
• lmc 3214: Science Fiction - 3
  
• lmc 3431: Technical Communication Approaches - 1
  
• lmc 3432: Technical Communication Strategies - 2
  
• math 2106: Foundations of Mathematical Proof - 3
  
• math 2802: Special Topics - Applications of Linear Algebra - 2
  
• math 3215: Probability & Statistics - 3 (single D grade)
  
• phys 2212: Intro to Physics II - 4
  

Is the brick and mortar college you graduated from Georgia Tech? It looks like it because that's most of your credits were from.

If that's the case, why not just go for GT's OMS Cybersecurity? It's only $10K for a master's degree

That is the case, and their Cybersecurity degree is on my radar.

That would be an expense and time sink I am not quite ready for yet.

The problem you have:
1. Linear Algebra only 2 cr, may need to take it again
2. Statistics with a D (not sure whether it's transferable)
3. Need 10 more hours of UPPER LEVEL Mathematics Electives
4. Need a total of 24 new cr after your first BSCS degree
5. Liberal Arts Capstone (~$1700) is mandatory
6. Residency Waiver of $3354 if <15 TESU resident hours

After all that, would an OMS Cybersecurity be that much more expensive or actually cheaper than a 2nd bachelor's?

For your third point, how many UL math credits do I need overall? I count 11 3XXX-level math credits, out of 31 math credits (34 if they count CS-2050).

Oh, and would most all my CS classes come in under Natural Sciences and Mathematics Electives? Would that help to offset required upper level credits?

https://www.tesu.edu/degrees-programs/ba...matics.php

15. Forget about Natural Science and Math, you got that already. What you need us UL or graduate level Math

[ed209uardo]

Is the brick and mortar college you graduated from Georgia Tech? It looks like it because that's most of your credits were from.

If that's the case, why not just go for GT's OMS Cybersecurity? It's only $10K for a master's degree

That is the case, and their Cybersecurity degree is on my radar.

That would be an expense and time sink I am not quite ready for yet.

The problem you have:
1. Linear Algebra only 2 cr, may need to take it again
2. Statistics with a D (not sure whether it's transferable)
3. Need 10 more hours of UPPER LEVEL Mathematics Electives
4. Need a total of 24 new cr after your first BSCS degree
5. Liberal Arts Capstone (~$1700) is mandatory
6. Residency Waiver of $3354 if <15 TESU resident hours

After all that, would an OMS Cybersecurity be that much more expensive or actually cheaper than a 2nd bachelor's?

For your third point, how many UL math credits do I need overall? I count 11 3XXX-level math credits, out of 31 math credits (34 if they count CS-2050).

Oh, and would most all my CS classes come in under Natural Sciences and Mathematics Electives? Would that help to offset required upper level credits?

https://www.tesu.edu/degrees-programs/ba...matics.php

15. Forget about Natural Science and Math, you got that already. What you need us UL or graduate level Math

I appreciate your patience with me, and forgive my confusion, but looking at the degree policies and the math program itself:
https://tesu.smartcatalogiq.com/en/curre...quirements
https://www.tesu.edu/degrees-programs/ba...matics.php

... I need 18 (out of 45) UL credits in the AOS (which includes the capstone), but I am not seeing where it states they specifically have to be in math. Will it not suffice if they are in either the Required Courses, the Mathematics Electives, and/or the Natural Science and Math Electives?

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Does that include meeting the GE requirements?

No. GE requirements are waived by your prior bachelor’s degree.

Thank you. I was confused about what "core of the degree" included.

Regarding the ASBA, even though the minimum credits I need to take is 12, I still need all 18 of the required credits, correct?