TESU BACS HELP!!

[maxxor6868]

I'm not saying go to WGU, but I am suggesting once you finish your associates you should apply.  WGU waives a great deal with an associates (https://www.wgu.edu/admissions/transfers...llege.html), and you can transfer in right up until you enroll up to the last 30 credits.

If you're eligible for a Pell Grant you can likely get your degree paid for with no out of pocket.  You mentioned something about paying out of pocket until graduation - I assume you mean this to cover the final costs at TESU for the Cornerstone/Capstone.  If you are eligible for the max Pell Grant (currently $6,345); you would likely only be able to receive up to $1,586.25 for towards two courses (taken within the same term) as you would be half time vs full time; the Pell Grant is for the year - then split by status; so you end up short for tuition and you still need to pay the residency waiver out of your pocket.

If not WGU maybe another competency based school might work for you - WGU is the best known here, but not the only option (and I'm just thinking in terms of maximizing a Pell Grant)

But there are other factors associates only waive the gen Ed's which is smaller than most other schools so I'm still paying a good 1000-1500 in study.com courses to transfer, than I'm still taking another good year or to graduate from wgu. The other option is 1137*2  minus the 1500 is about what 700 plus the residency fee plus 1000 tops for the study.com minus tuition reimbursement means about 3000-4000 out of pocket for 6 months degree versus mostly free from wgu but it will take alot longer and alot more work. Again I done the math before and not as interested in wgu please no more messages arguing for it I know it's a good school and spent along time debating it but the timing is just not worth it for me. If I wanted to spend 2 years at a school I could go to other schools like fort hays and take just as long but fir more money in scholarships. I started this thread for advice on tesu and ways to help the process not for wgu debates.

[natshar]

You can always start with the cheaper study.com account that allows you to take quiz and not exams. Then upgrade later when you are ready to them.

Also ask about the cybersecurity dsst idk about that one. If you do the Saylor before they expire you get the credit it doesn't matter if they expired the credit is still good as long you completed it before the date.

If you think you can get the cap/cornerstone in june (maybe july to keep catalog?) then that's your best bet. But you need most of your aos done to register for the Capstone. That is why I suggest doing a tecep to lock in the current catalog. I believe the catalog changes july 1 so maybe a july tecep would work but idk. Teceps are like tesus version of a clep and I ok only suggested network security because (I believe get someone to confirm though) it counts for your aos electives.


You could just apply to wgu since it's free you would only pay to send your transcripts even if you dont go there it gives you more options in case tesu makes some major changes. It wouldnt take much time and money to apply. I personally applied to wgu and didn't go there. it couldnt hurt anything. Also with your credits I dont know know how it would take 2 years for wgu.

[bjcheung77]

Max, you can just continue onward with your current plan and when you are done with at least all you can & wanted with CLEP or Study.com etc, you can apply to TESU and the other schools just to see how it goes with the credits. There is no harm in doing so, you want to get an idea of who gives you the most credits and the best bang for the buck. *er, I just farted*

I would still recommend following your first choice and stick with TESU, but if something strange happens with the calendar year for 2020/2021, (dumb things change), just make sure you keep your options open and your mind open/ready for changes. Otherwise, as I mentioned in the previous post/this post, stick to the original goal of getting your credits! Good luck & have fun!

[maxxor6868]

You can always start with the cheaper study.com account that allows you to take quiz and not exams. Then upgrade later when you are ready to them.

Also ask about the cybersecurity dsst idk about that one. If you do the Saylor before they expire you get the credit it doesn't matter if they expired the credit is still good as long you completed it before the date.

If you think you can get the cap/cornerstone in june (maybe july to keep catalog?) then that's your best bet. But you need most of your aos done to register for the Capstone. That is why I suggest doing a tecep to lock in the current catalog. I believe the catalog changes july 1 so maybe a july tecep would work but idk. Teceps are like tesus version of a clep and I ok only suggested network security because (I believe get someone to confirm though) it counts for your aos electives.


You could just apply to wgu since it's free you would only pay to send your transcripts even if you dont go there it gives you more options in case tesu makes some major changes. It wouldnt take much time and money to apply. I personally applied to wgu and didn't go there. it couldnt hurt anything. Also with your credits I dont know know how it would take 2 years for wgu.

I might applied when I applied to tesu and if it diesnt out the way I like I applied to wgu but I rather not waste almost $100 in transcripts sending If I dont think I will go there. I did find out that tesu will not accept robotics from onlinedegree.com or dsst cybersecurity for aos in cs shame. I can use dsst mis and clep info systems as well as onlinedegree.com cs101 but that still leaves me with 8 courses form study.com to take from now till july to finish if i want to register for the august capstone for a December graduation.

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Max, you can just continue onward with your current plan and when you are done with at least all you can & wanted with CLEP or Study.com etc, you can apply to TESU and the other schools just to see how it goes with the credits.  There is no harm in doing so, you want to get an idea of who gives you the most credits and the best bang for the buck.   *er, I just farted*

I would still recommend following your first choice and stick with TESU, but if something strange happens with the calendar year for 2020/2021, (dumb things change), just make sure you keep your options open and your mind open/ready for changes.  Otherwise, as I mentioned in the previous post/this post, stick to the original goal of getting your credits! Good luck & have fun!

Your right I keep things open thanks for the advice I hope theydpnt make too many changes this july!!

[natshar]

Tesu has been making so many changes you should consider enrolling in a May or June (or possibly July if counts) tecep to keep this years catalog. Apparently you dont even need to pass the tecep or even take it to kept the catalog. You get 3 months to do a tecep btw.There is the Network Technology which costs towards UL aos (get this confirmed first) but if you dont want to do that one do an easy gen ed. Or the medical terminology tecep is only 1 credit and $50. 50 to lock in the catalog seems like a good deal especially when in the long run it could save you money and headache.

That's fair on the wgu with transcripts I didn't realize it would be that much money.

[dfrecore]

So I'm a bit confused with some grammatical/spelling errors and length, but I missed if you're trying to get your CS degree from TESU or just a BALS?

Also, when looking at which school you want to go to, you should always look forwards instead of backwards. Backwards is "what did I get for the credits I brought in?" and forwards is "how much will it cost and how long will it take to complete my degree?" So remember to do that when looking at degree plans.

Now, I'm not sure if you understand how WGU works, since you mentioned 1-2 years, but you can finish in less than 6 months if you know the material. If you don't, it may take longer. TESU will take a full month to evaluate your credits, and then it will take at least 12 weeks to do your cornerstone and capstone courses, plus the time it takes to do the graduation audit, and then the graduation date...so it will probably be at least 6 months if not longer. But, I don't think there's a hard cutoff date, it's just your goal, so nothing terrible happens if you graduate in March of next year instead of December of this year.

For both schools, you need to see where all of your courses come in, and then what you have left to take. You can use any course provider to finish your courses.

For the Pell Grant, I think I've read that you won't get the full grant since you won't be considered a full-time student at TESU if you're only taking 6cr? Not certain of that. Then, on top of the $2800 residency waiver that's not covered by the Pell Grant (I don't think), you're looking at more out of pocket than WGU would be I think. I'm not an expert on Financial Aid, so I would look at including those costs into your degree plans.

[maxxor6868]

So I'm a bit confused with some grammatical/spelling errors and length, but I missed if you're trying to get your CS degree from TESU or just a BALS?

Also, when looking at which school you want to go to, you should always look forwards instead of backwards.  Backwards is "what did I get for the credits I brought in?" and forwards is "how much will it cost and how long will it take to complete my degree?"  So remember to do that when looking at degree plans.

Now, I'm not sure if you understand how WGU works, since you mentioned 1-2 years, but you can finish in less than 6 months if you know the material.  If you don't, it may take longer.  TESU will take a full month to evaluate your credits, and then it will take at least 12 weeks to do your cornerstone and capstone courses, plus the time it takes to do the graduation audit, and then the graduation date...so it will probably be at least 6 months if not longer.  But, I don't think there's a hard cutoff date, it's just your goal, so nothing terrible happens if you graduate in March of next year instead of December of this year.

For both schools, you need to see where all of your courses come in, and then what you have left to take.  You can use any course provider to finish your courses.

For the Pell Grant, I think I've read that you won't get the full grant since you won't be considered a full-time student at TESU if you're only taking 6cr?  Not certain of that.  Then, on top of the $2800 residency waiver that's not covered by the Pell Grant (I don't think), you're looking at more out of pocket than WGU would be I think.  I'm not an expert on Financial Aid, so I would look at including those costs into your degree plans.

I get how wgu works but the idea of 6 months or less is impossible and honestly you may be the one missing the point. The classes waive by an associates degree is less than a 1/3 of the whole cs degree compare to 3/4 of the tesu degree. It's not backwards if coming in I have to do much more work for honestly the same degree. Wgu is the same as tesu in name. All I'm doing is taking more classes for a longer time. Wgu cna be faster but for me to finish in 6 months would take a lot of work that I explain before. I would have to take about 10 or more classes through study.com on top of wgu courses. There is something most people are not realizing st the end of the day there is less TOTAL cs courses for tesu require than wgu. I am not taking 20 plus courses versus the 10 I need for tesu. With my current workload plus my classes it will more than likely not be able to finish maybe more than 10 by july end. Thus it will take me more than 6 months for wgu to finish no more what defeating my purpose. The problem with these posts is people are ignoring my purpose and constantly arguing one side that doesnt work for everyone. The cost for me is not much for what I value. Base on some posts I'm out 4,000 total all fee included versus a full year at wgu. Maybe 2 years is too long but 20 plus cs courses at wgu in 6 months is impossible. Tesu takes more credits and I earn them I rather use them. Things may chnage by july but the point is it's just not useful to go to wgu as my one goal is to finish as fast as possible and wgu is not the way no matter what others say for my situation in reality it's not. Could it be done. Yes but would it be 2x more difficult yes so why would i do that for arguably no more gain in name or education.

[dfrecore]

So I'm a bit confused with some grammatical/spelling errors and length, but I missed if you're trying to get your CS degree from TESU or just a BALS?

Also, when looking at which school you want to go to, you should always look forwards instead of backwards.  Backwards is "what did I get for the credits I brought in?" and forwards is "how much will it cost and how long will it take to complete my degree?"  So remember to do that when looking at degree plans.

Now, I'm not sure if you understand how WGU works, since you mentioned 1-2 years, but you can finish in less than 6 months if you know the material.  If you don't, it may take longer.  TESU will take a full month to evaluate your credits, and then it will take at least 12 weeks to do your cornerstone and capstone courses, plus the time it takes to do the graduation audit, and then the graduation date...so it will probably be at least 6 months if not longer.  But, I don't think there's a hard cutoff date, it's just your goal, so nothing terrible happens if you graduate in March of next year instead of December of this year.

For both schools, you need to see where all of your courses come in, and then what you have left to take.  You can use any course provider to finish your courses.

For the Pell Grant, I think I've read that you won't get the full grant since you won't be considered a full-time student at TESU if you're only taking 6cr?  Not certain of that.  Then, on top of the $2800 residency waiver that's not covered by the Pell Grant (I don't think), you're looking at more out of pocket than WGU would be I think.  I'm not an expert on Financial Aid, so I would look at including those costs into your degree plans.

I get how wgu works but the idea of 6 months or less is impossible and honestly you may be the one missing the point. The classes waive by an associates degree is less than a 1/3 of the whole cs degree compare to 3/4 of the tesu degree. It's not backwards if coming in I have to do much more work for honestly the same degree. Wgu is the same as tesu in name. All I'm doing is taking more classes for a longer time. Wgu cna be faster but for me to finish in 6 months would take a lot of work that I explain before. I would have to take about 10 or more classes through study.com on top of wgu courses. There is something most people are not realizing st the end of the day there is less TOTAL cs courses for tesu require than wgu. I am not taking 20 plus courses versus the 10 I need for tesu. With my current workload plus my classes it will more than likely not be able to finish maybe more than 10 by july end. Thus it will take me more than 6 months for wgu to finish no more what defeating my purpose. The problem with these posts is people are ignoring my purpose and constantly arguing one side that doesnt work for everyone. The cost for me is not much for what I value. Base on some posts I'm out 4,000 total all fee included versus a full year at wgu. Maybe 2 years is too long but 20 plus cs courses at wgu in 6 months is impossible. Tesu takes more credits and I earn them I rather use them. Things may chnage by july but the point is it's just not useful to go to wgu as my one goal is to finish as fast as possible and wgu is not the way no matter what others say for my situation in reality it's not. Could it be done. Yes but would it be 2x more difficult yes so why would i do that for arguably no more gain in name or education.

1) I was trying to figure out what degree you wanted, 2) I was explaining some things that seemed unclear, both for you and for future readers of this post, regarding looking forwards/backwards, and 3) I don't have a preference for which school you go to.

One of the things you said was the you wanted to graduate by the end of the year, and it's hard to do at TESU.  So I was giving you another option.


You also talked about financial aid, and I was pointing out that you probably wouldn't get what you thought you might get.  That's important for some people, even if it's not for you.

You're right on no gain in name, but you're probably wrong in no gain in education.  If a school requires MORE courses in the major, then you're probably going to learn more in that major.

But you do you, some people are big proponents of WGU here, and see it as a way for someone with a lot of experience to get their degree faster, and less expensive than some other schools.  But if it doesn't work for you, I get it (it wouldn't work for me either).

[allvia]

I assume you've already seen this, but if not you need to know in order to plan accordingly -
TESU not accepting a slew of Study.com computer courses anymore
https://www.degreeforum.net/mybb/Thread-...es-anymore

[maxxor6868]

I saw that but those aren't really cs courses but more it courses that really didnt belong so as the post mentions cs should be safe. Again that's another reason why I want to finsih as soon as possible because stuff always changing finishing more quickly can prevent things like this. Also to the other post while more courses can be useful some of the wgu courses seem to be fluff with which I talk to other students really are not neccessary so sometimes more layers will not be useful especially for my situation.