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TESU Associate Degrees without a Capstone
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(03-11-2025, 09:44 AM)bluebooger Wrote:
(03-10-2025, 09:49 AM)LevelUP Wrote: GE Requirements
College Algebra  (Sophia)

AOS Required
Calculus I (Sophia)

15cr Electives
Stats (Sophia)
College Math (Sophia)
CSM Learn (smilabs.org)
Discrete Math (Study.com)
Precalculus (Sophia) or find something else

(Those are cheapest/easiest, check Wiki for more math options)

9cr Natural Science/CS/Math Electives
Natural Science/CS (Sophia)

2cr General Electives
1cr Developing Effective Teams (Sophia)
1cr The Essentials of Managing Conflict (Sophia)

(Or a 3cr course can go here)

again, that does not look like an Associates in Math
that may very well be what TESU accepts, but if so it is a very lame degree

that would be like getting an Associates in Computer Science and only taking an Introduction to Programming course and not taking Data Structures or Computer Organization

Quote:TESU is not a traditional school so you can only really compare them to similar schools.

yeah, you can't compare schools, but you should certainly be able to compare degrees
you expect every biology degree to have the same courses
you expect every CS degree to have the same courses
you expect every math degree to have the same courses 

Quote:Also remember this is not really an "AS in Mathematics" but an "ASNSM in Mathematics".

is it though ?

https://tesu.smartcatalogiq.com/en/curre...thematics/

There is no such thing as degree standardization in the U.S.

The 6000 colleges and Universities in the U.S. all have their own degree programs with their own course and concentration requirements.

Requiring 18 credits of college level math courses irrefutably makes it a mathematics degree. If I told almost anyone that I had to take 18 credits of college level math courses which included College Algebra, Pre-Calculus, Calculus I, Discrete Mathematics and Statistics they would think it is real 2-year associates degree. Especially considering I would be taking likely 6 times the math courses of the average associates degree holder.

Remember this site is about degree hacking, that means spending the least amount of time and money to get a real accredited degree. It is not about getting the same degree from Stanford for less. Associate degrees are largely check box degrees and a milestone on the way to a Bachelors. Any employer requiring specific mathematics knowledge is going to look at someone's transcript and make a decision from there. But you cannot look at just a few schools and then make an unfounded expectation that all schools should follow that exact curriculum because it is not reasonable or mandated.

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+1, I agree that the Associates is a great option on route to the Bachelors. Basically, I usually recommend getting these as freebies on the way to that Bachelors. Nowadays, I don't think of degree hacking, but degree laddering instead. Same trifecta principles of cheap, easy, fast but I try to add that extra roi/value and personalize the degree further. It really depends on what the student needs and wants...

Yes, Each Associate and/or Bachelors from institutions are going to have various requirements, for some, they're lacking in the subject matter, others are overkill. That's when I get people to review the classes and course contents to see if it fits their learning objectives, and to customize their learning more by throwing classes that interest them into the electives, do a trifecta of certs, degree, experience...
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