BS Organizational Leadership

[Ared97]

Hey everyone, I am new here on the forum and am planning to get a BS in Organizational Leadership degree at TESU. I have already spoke with my advisor and have it in the system with a couple other possible degrees. I tried looking around the forum to see if anyone had more information on this specific degree, but I haven't really come across many threads, maybe I just am not looking well enough. 

To start, I have looked on the degree forum wiki and see that I have cheaper options from a few different sites, mainly study.com. But the main section I am wondering about is the Advanced Leadership (A) spot. It is listed with study.com's Business 305 as an option there but listed also for Part D. Communication. Is this supposed to be duplicated? If not, I assume I could just take two TESU classes there along with their practicum. The rest could be from study.com, but I may have to email and ask my advisor what the other cheaper sources of credit could be, if nobody else is sure what may work. Lastly for now, if anyone has info or done this degree how is it, along with the practicum? The classes and practicum didn't look too horrible to me when I read the syllabus of each, so I am a little more optimistic about this. 

If this helps: I am in my mid 20s and definitely not new to online learning or classes. I have two associate degrees, one from a local college straight after high school, and the other from TESU. They are not concentrated in anything unfortunately, as I have not pushed myself hard in the past. I feel like this would be a decent degree for me and seems like it would be a fairly useful "business related" degree. Any advice and help would be greatly appreciated.

[bjcheung77]

@Ared97, Welcome to the board, that's a great first post and I agree, TESU is the correct path to complete a Bachelors from since you already have an associates with them, you just need to ladder upwards with the remaining credits of the degree.  Just curious... What other 'couple' of degrees have you added into your program list?  

I've written several times that the TESU BSOL is NOT recommended and would favor a different degree instead due to various reasons... You've provided a pretty good picture, but it's not as complete an overview of your scenario, please complete the addendum/template here so we get all the information it's asking for and thus get more info on your situation.

Addendum/Template Link: https://www.degreeforum.net/mybb/Thread-...Area-works
BSOL Recommendation: https://www.degreeforum.net/mybb/Thread-...#pid402710

[rachel83az]

Oops, thanks for noticing and bringing it to our attention! BUS305 should not be duplicated, that is a mistake. Unlike at some other schools, one class will not fill multiple requirements at TESU. I've updated the wiki.

[Ared97]

Thank you for the replies so far. @bjcheung77, the other two degrees I have in the system are the AS Computer Science and BA in Music. I know all of them are not specifically related, but these are some degrees I am interested in. Here is some info to help: 

Your Location: Virginia, US

Your Age: 26
What kind of degree do you want?: Looking mainly for a business degree. Open to certain IT degrees also. 

I have around 95-96 total credits from the last few years and am not in the military, so I can't use any of their benefits/perks. At my work, I believe I can get some reimbursement, but it depends on class. I was, and still am, passionate about music, hence why I still have the music degree listed. I would have done that with PLAs. Probably not the best option, as I am not crazy about writing. 

I appreciate you showing me the link on why the BSOL may not be the best. I already knew it would be a little pricey, but now that you mentioned it didn't have certain recognition, that makes me not want to pursue it as much. Kind of a bummer, but at least I have a better idea now. I want my business degree to be accredited or recognized. Could you tell me how and where you found that out though, and how you compared?

@rachel83az thank you for noticing! I just thought that was strange. Also, I did email my advisor and for anyone still interested in the degree, all of the Advanced Leadership Section A classes should be upper level, according to the system. Glad to know that now too. 

Thanks all for the help!

[bjcheung77]

BTW, you missed the addendum, that's actually slightly more important than the template itself as it has info on your budget, commitments, study habits, time management, and provides an overall bigger picture of your scenario, etc.  Business accreditation goes like this: AACSB > ACBSP > IACBE> RA > NA, there is a third option of IACBE for many institutions that couldn't/don't use AACSB or ACBSP will go the IACBE route or nothing at all.

Anyways, TESU's accreditation webpage tells you what programs hold programmatic or secondary accreditation.  RA (Regional Accreditation) is recommended over NA (National Accreditation) due to recognition/transferability... You can verify the ACBSP by doing a search on the https://acbspsearch.org/ webpage and you'll see only their Bachelors & Masters programs have ACBSP, the ASBA/DBA does not.  Link: https://acbspsearch.org/Home/Details?instId=Inst2341

Note: RA is the main standard, these are just 'good to have' add-on options, it's not necessary as many well known institutions do not have programmatic or secondary accreditation for any (if not most) of their programs.  You can always ladder up your TESU BSBA to WGU MBA or MSML that also has ACBSP. TESU Accreditation, you can see the BSOL is non-accredited along with the two I mentioned: https://www.tesu.edu/about/accreditation

[smile23]

BTW, you missed the addendum, that's actually slightly more important than the template itself as it has info on your budget, commitments, study habits, time management, and provides an overall bigger picture of your scenario, etc.  Business accreditation goes like this: AACSB > ACBSP > IACBE> RA > NA, there is a third option of IACBE for many institutions that couldn't/don't use AACSB or ACBSP will go the IACBE route or nothing at all.

Anyways, TESU's accreditation webpage tells you what programs hold programmatic or secondary accreditation.  RA (Regional Accreditation) is recommended over NA (National Accreditation) due to recognition/transferability... You can verify the ACBSP by doing a search on the https://acbspsearch.org/ webpage and you'll see only their Bachelors & Masters programs have ACBSP, the ASBA/DBA does not.  Link: https://acbspsearch.org/Home/Details?instId=Inst2341

Note: RA is the main standard, these are just 'good to have' add-on options, it's not necessary as many well known institutions do not have programmatic or secondary accreditation for any (if not most) of their programs.  You can always ladder up your TESU BSBA to WGU MBA or MSML that also has ACBSP. TESU Accreditation, you can see the BSOL is non-accredited along with the two I mentioned: https://www.tesu.edu/about/accreditation

UMPI VS TESU which business degree has better accreditation?

Thank you

[bjcheung77]

UMPI VS TESU which business degree has better accreditation?

Thank you

Here's the thing, TESU has RA and programmatic/secondary accreditation from ACBSP for some of their business programs.  There is only one advantage is the ability to go into more selective ACBSP Masters programs (and a slightly higher chance at AACSB as well).  UMPI, just like TESU is a public/state institution with RA, virtually identical but for the learning modality.

Other than that, there isn't much more ACBSP provides.  All ACBSP does is make sure the courses or program meets specific targets and that's the gist of it... Oh, ACBSP also opens the door to teaching at the community college level, I've seen some institutions look for ACBSP for teaching community college business courses!  For cost, ease, speed, go UMPI.

Actually, it really depends on the student needs and wants.  If the Bachelors is the only degree they're going for (not laddering to a Masters later on), then the better option would be TESU, they can try to go for a second Bachelors or something later down the road.  If they're going for a Masters, then UMPI works fine, as they end laddering up with a MBA/MSML that has ACBSP.