TESC CIS degree plan help???

[fcruz420]

Hello All,

I have no college credits and trying to tailor a plan via testing out and taking classes via SL or other options. I'm trying to complete this from the ground up. Thanks to everyone on this forum for assisting me. I've been reading posts all night and it seems like CIS degree plans are in great need. =)


Computer Information Systems
Subject Category Credits
I. General Education Requirements 60
A. English Composition 6 English comp 1&2 at SL?
B. Humanities 12
Managerial or Business Communications -3 Business communication st SL?
Other Humanities -9 Intro Sociology, intro criminal justice and western civilization at SL?
Must include at least two subject areas
C. Social Sciences 12
Macroeconomics -3 Economics 1&2 at SL?
Microeconomics -3 Economics 1&2 at SL?
Other Social Sciences -6 What SL class can I take here?
Must include at least two subject areas
D. Natural Sciences and Mathematics 9
Precalculus Mathematics -3 Precalculus at SL?
Principles of Statistics -3 Business statistics at SL?
Other natural sciences -3 Medical Terminology at SL?
Must include at least two subject areas
E. General Education Electives 21 WHAT TO DO HERE? =)
II. Professional Business Requirements 54
A. Business Core 27
Business Law -3 intro to business law CLEP?
Computer Concepts and Applications/Introduction to Computers/CIS -3 intro to computing DSST?
Principles of Financial Accounting -3 Accounting 1 at SL?
Principles of Managerial Accounting -3 Managerial accounting at SL?
Principles of Finance -3 Intro to business at SL?
Introduction to Marketing -3 Principle of marketing CLEP?
Business in Society or International Management -3 Business ethics in society DSST?
Business Policy -3 Business policy TECEP?
Principles of Management -3 Principle of management CLEP?
B. Area of Study: BSBA Computer Information Systems 18
Required Subjects 6
Programming Language WHAT TO DO HERE? =)
Systems Analysis and Design WHAT TO DO HERE? =)
Electives 12
Data Structures
Operating Systems
System Development Methodology OR Systems Analysis and Design II
Additional Programming Language**
Application System Development
Basic Design Theory and Decision Making Techniques
Computer Logic and Organization
Computer Management
Client Server and Net-Centric Computing
Computer and Information Technology*
Database Management*
Information Systems Administration information system and application CLEP?
Job Control Language Systems
Management Information Systems* (DANTES examination) DSST?
Network Architectures
Networking Principles (LAN/WAN/Internet)
Problem Analysis and Solutions
Quantitative Analysis and Information Systems
Social Aspects of Information Technology
C. Business Electives 9 Business math, intro to business and principles of supervision DSST?
III. Free Electives 6 I guess FEMA classes for this portion?
Total 120

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[fcruz420]

Would it benefit me to get an AAS from Clovis CC in CIS?
http://www.clovis.edu/Downloads/AreasOfS...nology.pdf

[ryoder]

Use clovis for some cheap CIS credits but be careful to not get too many lower level credits for your CIS concentration.
But I would do the following and not worry about Clovis for right now. Begin aggressively working toward the business core and the requirements for the AS degree at TESC.
Take the Network tech TECEP and the DSST MIIS tests for elective credit that will eventually form part of the upper level portion of your CIS electives.
You might want to "cash in" and just get the associates and move on when you hit the 60 credit mark or you can choose to congratulate yourself and continue on to the 120 credit BSBA.

I took 1 TESC computer course and it was not easy. It was computer architecture and I really enjoyed it. I took it while in a graduate course and while taking the 6cr env science so my time was split but I did have to study and work on the assignments. You will learn in these courses or drop out. I think at least half the online students dropped the course by the third or fourth week. Most of them weren't really computer people though so if you are hardcore, you will stick with it and be fine.

Good luck.

[fcruz420]

Use clovis for some cheap CIS credits but be careful to not get too many lower level credits for your CIS concentration.
But I would do the following and not worry about Clovis for right now. Begin aggressively working toward the business core and the requirements for the AS degree at TESC.
Take the Network tech TECEP and the DSST MIIS tests for elective credit that will eventually form part of the upper level portion of your CIS electives.
You might want to "cash in" and just get the associates and move on when you hit the 60 credit mark or you can choose to congratulate yourself and continue on to the 120 credit BSBA.

I took 1 TESC computer course and it was not easy. It was computer architecture and I really enjoyed it. I took it while in a graduate course and while taking the 6cr env science so my time was split but I did have to study and work on the assignments. You will learn in these courses or drop out. I think at least half the online students dropped the course by the third or fourth week. Most of them weren't really computer people though so if you are hardcore, you will stick with it and be fine.

Good luck.

Thanks Ryoder. Just want to clarify something's:
1. Forget about Clovis cc for now correct?
2. Work on AS at TESC. Meaning this degree Associate in Science in Business Administration (ASBA)? If not, what TESC AS degree are you referring to?
3. For business core and general education classes, are my SL choices good or should I attempt to test out of those classes?

I like computers but not sure if I would take the hardcore class. Thanks for the info, your time, assistance and prompt response. Patiently awaiting your new response =)

[NAP]

Just wanted to say, welcome to the forum! I enjoyed your first intro post. Yes, you can do this, especially with the support of other members who have been or are going through this, too.

Also, the Gen Ed electives section is anything that fits in the Gen Ed categories - Humanities, Social Science, History, Natural Science, and Math.

I'm looking forward to following your progress!

[fcruz420]

Just wanted to say, welcome to the forum! I enjoyed your first intro post. Yes, you can do this, especially with the support of other members who have been or are going through this, too.

Also, the Gen Ed electives section is anything that fits in the Gen Ed categories - Humanities, Social Science, History, Natural Science, and Math.

I'm looking forward to following your progress!

Thanks NAP. lol I figured I would put it all out there as I've delayed my degree long enough. This site is extremely informative. I would have never thought about half of things I'm reading/learning from this site. I checked the Gen Ed courses from TESC and I saw the listing.

Im thinking I can complete most of them with SL courses, CLEP or Dantes. I await Ryoders response for SL courses. Once I begin, I will keep updating progress and if all goes well - maybe even a wiki submission. It would be cool to have a degree plan from the ground up with previous college credits.

[fcruz420]

TESC ASBA Degree plan in progress
Ok so I think I have my degree plan for the first goal (Obtain an ASBA).
Does this look correct? Any suggestions on test to definately take or possibly replace? Any suggestions for business electives, General education electives and Principles of managerial accounting?

Associate in Science in Business Admin

I. General Education Requirements 30
A. English Composition
- College Compostion CLEP - 6

B. Humanities
- English Literature CLEP - 6

C. Social Sciences
Must include at least two subject areas
Macroeconomics
- Macroeconomics CLEP - 3
Other Social Sciences
- Intro to sociology CLEP - 3
- Intro to psychology CLEP - 3

D. Natural Sciences and Mathematics 6
Precalculus Mathematics or Quantitative Analysis
- Precalculus CLEP - 3

Other natural sciences/mathematics
- Infromation sys and comp app CLEP - 3

E. General Education Electives - What should I take here?

II. Management Core
A. Principles of Financial Accounting
- Accounting CLEP
B. Principles of Managerial Accounting - What should I take here?
C. Legal Environment for Business
- Business law CLEP
D. Principles of Management
- Principles of management CLEP
E. Principles of Marketing
- Principles of marketing CLEP
F. Introduction to Computers/CIS
- DSST into to computing

III. Business Electives - What should I take here?

IV. Free Electives
- FEMA Courses

[NAP]

For Gen Ed electives, consider A&I Lit CLEP and more math, like College Math CLEP, ALEKS, or SL. It is also a good place to add subjects that interest you, within the required categories. (For SL vs. CLEP, it seems to be based on personal preference, so find the method that works best for you, which may vary depending on the subject.)

[fcruz420]

For Gen Ed electives, consider A&I Lit CLEP and more math, like College Math CLEP, ALEKS, or SL. It is also a good place to add subjects that interest you, within the required categories. (For SL vs. CLEP, it seems to be based on personal preference, so find the method that works best for you, which may vary depending on the subject.)

This forum is awesome!!!! Thanks NAP, Ryoder and ALL!!! Im getting my plan together now. I hope to start studying soon so I can begin my testing in September. Im thinking instantcert, khan academy and free test preps should do the trick. Its to my understanding college board will keep my CLEP results for 20 years, but the english comp with essay is held for a short period of time? If this is true, it would benefit me to take the english comp with essay CLEP last when im almost ready or already enrolled at TESC correct?

The last few days have been a blast. My family and girlfriend are surprised how fast this came together. I was never one to speak about school or degrees. Now they say this is all im rambling about lol.....

More updates to come soon. Finding testing centers and trying make a road map on which tests to take first. Im thinking computer CLEPs as im in the IT field =)

[fcruz420]

signing up for instantcert this weekend. time to put this plan in full effect =)