TCC Physiological Psychology is UL Natural Science at TESU

[sanantone]

An advisor told me that Tor College Credit's course in Physiological Psychology is transcribed as PSY-374 and can be applied as a natural science. That will give you the last UL science course needed for the BA in Natural Science and Mathematics.

[cookderosa]

GREAT find!!

[laughter]

Just for the record, TCC's Physiological Psychology have been successfully transferred as UL Natural Science credits to my academic evaluation.

[cookderosa]

Just for the record, TCC's Physiological Psychology have been successfully transferred as UL Natural Science credits to my academic evaluation.

It's shocking to me that psychology is ever evaluated as a science in any capacity, so this is a great find. It even has the alpha PSY. Strange. Sanantone or Laughter did you guys take this class?

Edit: I wanted to include the link for people following this thread http://www.torcollegecredits.com/coopers...siological

And I asked earlier about the class, but here's the course description for those interested

Physiological Psychology (PSY-303)
Location: Various, distance learning format.
Length: Varies (self-study).
Dates: December 2014 to Present.
Objectives: Upon successful completion of the course, students will be able to: describe key principles of physiological psychology, psychopharmacology, physiological research methods, and the critical role of the nervous system; analyze the physiology behind sensation, perception, sleeping, eating, and feeling; evaluate the physiology of learning, memory, and communication processes; and explain physiological factors involved in neurological, anxiety-related, schizophrenia-related, and addictive disorders.
Instruction: This self-study course explores physiological psychology, which relate to the biological influences on human and animal behavior. Topics include structures and functions of the nervous system, psychopharmacology and research methods, the senses, movement, emotion, eating/digestion, learning, memory, and the neurology of psychological disorders. The unit objectives in this course are aligned with the American Psychological Association’s Guidelines for the Undergraduate Major (version 2.0, August, 2013).
Credit recommendation: In the upper division associate/baccalaureate degree category, 3 semester hours in Psychology, Social Science, General Science, or Teacher Education (12/14).

[bluebooger]

It's shocking to me that psychology is ever evaluated as a science in any capacity,...

TESU is incredibly stupid in what the classify as natural science

I forget the exact name of the course, but someone on here (probably Sanantone) mentioned once that they gave Natural Science credit for "Introduction to Computers" or some course like that
incredibly ridiculous

[jsd]

If any psych course is going to qualify as a natural science, Physiological Psychology certainly makes the most sense.

[sanantone]

Obviously, I wouldn't be surprised that it counted as a natural science since I thought to ask about it. The reason why I thought to ask about this course was because I remember a biopsychology course or something similar being cross-listed as biology and psychology. I asked about all the IT CSU Global CBEs and some of the health-related Tor College courses. Honestly, I think it makes more sense to count physiological psychology as a natural science than the computer science courses TESU counts as a natural science. It can be argued that computer science is essentially mathematics; but, otherwise, there is not much natural about it. As one can see from the description, physiological psychology is the study of the physiological/biological processes behind psychological phenomena. It's just a more advanced and specialized version of a physiology course one would take out of a biology department and really not much different from pathophysiology. Studying the physiology behind the chemical imbalances that cause some psychological disorders is no different from studying the physiology behind diabetes or high blood pressure. Bipolar disorder and clinical depression are caused by chemical imbalances. You can see gray matter deficits in the brains of schizophrenics. If you've ever taken a physiology or A&P course, then you know the nervous system is something that is studied in biology.

[cookderosa]

Obviously, I wouldn't be surprised that it counted as a natural science since I thought to ask about it. The reason why I thought to ask about this course was because I remember a biopsychology course or something similar being cross-listed as biology and psychology. I asked about all the IT CSU Global CBEs and some of the health-related Tor College courses. Honestly, I think it makes more sense to count physiological psychology as a natural science than the computer science courses TESU counts as a natural science. It can be argued that computer science is essentially mathematics; but, otherwise, there is not much natural about it. As one can see from the description, physiological psychology is the study of the physiological/biological processes behind psychological phenomena. It's just a more advanced and specialized version of a physiology course one would take out of a biology department and really not much different from pathophysiology. Studying the physiology behind the chemical imbalances that cause some psychological disorders is no different from studying the physiology behind diabetes or high blood pressure. Bipolar disorder and clinical depression are caused by chemical imbalances. You can see gray matter deficits in the brains of schizophrenics. If you've ever taken a physiology or A&P course, then you know the nervous system is something that is studied in biology.

I think psychologists are the only folks that consider psychology a science...but not my call, more power to the folks that get to count it.

" If you've ever taken a physiology or A&P course, then you know the nervous system is something that is studied in biology."

I have graduate credit in biology AND psychology- both from Harvard, I'm sure you already knew that lol. Again, not relevant- TESU counts it. That's a win.

[sanantone]

I think psychologists are the only folks that consider psychology a science...but not my call, more power to the folks that get to count it.

" If you've ever taken a physiology or A&P course, then you know the nervous system is something that is studied in biology."

I have graduate credit in biology AND psychology- both from Harvard, I'm sure you already knew that lol. Again, not relevant- TESU counts it. That's a win.

I'm not a psychologist. The federal government does classify psychology as a science, though. Regardless of what one thinks about psychology's status as a natural science, this particular course is a physiology course. I'm not wanting to be argumentative, but I don't see why counting something that is basically physiology, neuroscience, and pharmacology as a science is a problem. Is it simply because psychology is in the name? I don't get it. This is the same stuff biology, pharmacology, and neuroscience majors study. It's not psychologists that make the determination that a psychology course will count as a science.

Yale counts many psychology courses as natural sciences.
Which PSYC Courses Count for Social Science (List A) vs Natural Science (List B)? | Department of Psychology

University of Nevada has an Intro to Psychology as a Natural Science course that counts as a science.
https://www.unr.edu/academic-central/cor...al-science

University of Colorado counts Biological Psychology as a science.
Natural Science | College of Arts & Sciences | University of Colorado Boulder

University of Pittsburgh counts some psychology courses as natural sciences.
Natural Sciences (BS) | College of General Studies

I'm sure there are many other examples.

[cookderosa]

I'm not a psychologist. The federal government does classify psychology as a science, though. Regardless of what one thinks about psychology's status as a natural science, this particular course is a physiology course. I'm not wanting to be argumentative, but I don't see why counting something that is basically physiology, neuroscience, and pharmacology as a science is a problem. Is it simply because psychology is in the name? I don't get it. This is the same stuff biology, pharmacology, and neuroscience majors study. It's not psychologists that make the determination that a psychology course will count as a science.

Yale counts many psychology courses as natural sciences.
Which PSYC Courses Count for Social Science (List A) vs Natural Science (List B)? | Department of Psychology

University of Nevada has an Intro to Psychology as a Natural Science course that counts as a science.
https://www.unr.edu/academic-central/cor...al-science

University of Colorado counts Biological Psychology as a science.
Natural Science | College of Arts & Sciences | University of Colorado Boulder

University of Pittsburgh counts some psychology courses as natural sciences.
Natural Sciences (BS) | College of General Studies

I'm sure there are many other examples.

This seems very important to you to argue with me instead of recognizing that this is an exception- you know as well as I do that when a course has an ALPHA prefix of "PSY" at TESU it's historically placed in social science. Not sure why you're pulling other college catalogs. Your thread is about how TESU applies this course.

http://www.tesu.edu/heavin/ba/Natural-Sc...matics.cfm

From the NATURAL SCIENCE degree page linked above: "The following areas are considered natural sciences/mathematics and may be used as a subject area in the concentration: biology, computer science, geology, physics, chemistry, environmental science, mathematics."

And of course from the SOCIAL SCIENCE degree page: "Any of the following areas are considered social sciences and may be used as a subject area in the concentration: anthropology, archaeology, economics, geography, history, labor studies, political science, psychology, sociology."