School name changes

[Exfactor]

Thank you for clarifying how the courses are presented on the official transcript. Good idea escalating the issue, the advisor is obviously not well trained. I'm actually surprised an advisor is the one handling this matter. Does Excelsior not have an evaluations team/department?

At Excelsior all evaluations are done by your academic advisors. Which is why there is so much confusion in regard to credit transfers there; as what one advisor may approve another one may not. After speaking with other advisors they agreed that such should be listed under the state college, but they couldn't do anything as I do not have them as an advisor. I'm just gonna wait to see what the higher ups say.

your credits, accreditation, and school name will always be from when you completed them - not the current situation of the school. If you attended a CC, your credits will be CC credit- no matter what the school is now. In your case, the change will be listed as attending 2 schools because technically speaking, you did attend 2 schools.

This is to your advantage if a school closes/loses accreditation because you're credits will be valid since they held it at the time of completion.

In the reverse situation, a school that GAINS accreditation does not back-date your credits to be accredited. An example in my sig is my culinary degree. That was an NA college when I earned it, but they earned RA in the mid 90's. Whenever I send my transcript, 99.99% of the time, they recognize my credit as RA because their initial search shows that as being an RA school. Of course, after they catch up (which they always do) they "demote" that credit back to NA status.

Your 4 year credit should independently retain that status, while your CC credit should independently retain that status.

I don't think its more of an accreditation issue; as when I look at my transcripts on the first page the credits I earned while it was a community college states above each section/semester that the credits were earned at "FLSTCOLL," implying the state college. On the same transcript my credits from Aleks/ACE implies that they are Ace credits above such in the same position also, even my degree from them also implies such was earned from the state college. It appears that in-house their is no differentiation. After speaking with them they implied that my credits are state college credits, and not community college credits, thus they don't understand why Excelsior is projecting it as if such are two different schools.

It's interesting that no one mentioned USNY --> Regents College --> Excelsior in this thread. It's always been USNY for me.

You make a good point; as in their latest magazine issue they state that USNY and Regents College alumni should use the name Excelsior instead of USNY or Regents College.

[cookderosa]

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I'll be interested to see how this plays out. I'm having a hard time seeing "both points of view" on this. Seems black and white to me.

[bricabrac]

At Excelsior all evaluations are done by your academic advisors. Which is why there is so much confusion in regard to credit transfers there; as what one advisor may approve another one may not. After speaking with other advisors they agreed that such should be listed under the state college, but they couldn't do anything as I do not have them as an advisor. I'm just gonna wait to see what the higher ups say.

I certainly hope this problem works out to your benefit. Once you receive the response to your appeal, I would immediately request a change of advisor. Maybe list the few you've spoken with who supported your position and hopefully they can reassign you to one of them. I wouldn't trust someone like your current advisor with handling my degree audit and certification. You'd probably end up with a last minute surprise. Many students have found themselves excited, expecting to receive their diplomas only to be told, last minute, they didn't meet all the degree requirements. I just think it's best, especially if you already know you have a possible slacker, to demand a competent advisor. We live an we learn!

[sanantone]

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I'll be interested to see how this plays out. I'm having a hard time seeing "both points of view" on this. Seems black and white to me.

It is kind of confusing because it's not a simple name change. The colleges have completely changed their structure. They went from only having the ability to offer lower level courses to being able to offer upper level courses.

[cookderosa]

It is kind of confusing because it's not a simple name change. The colleges have completely changed their structure. They went from only having the ability to offer lower level courses to being able to offer upper level courses.

True, but what the OP completed wasn't confusing- it was black and white.
I may have confused him with my NA to RA example, but it was just an example of how what the school is when you attend is what it is. If you're classes come from a 2 year school, and then later from a 4 year school, the fact that they occupy the same piece of real estate is moot.

[Exfactor]

I certainly hope this problem works out to your benefit. Once you receive the response to your appeal, I would immediately request a change of advisor. Maybe list the few you've spoken with who supported your position and hopefully they can reassign you to one of them. I wouldn't trust someone like your current advisor with handling my degree audit and certification. You'd probably end up with a last minute surprise. Many students have found themselves excited, expecting to receive their diplomas only to be told, last minute, they didn't meet all the degree requirements. I just think it's best, especially if you already know you have a possible slacker, to demand a competent advisor. We live an we learn!

That has already happened, which is why I'm in this position. LOL

When I first enrolled and emailed my advisor the beginning of this year she made the mistake thats currently on my transcripts now, after emailing her she changed all my credits to being from Florida State College at Jacksonville. However, after my degree audit my credits went back to being split between community college vs. state college credits, she also removed exam credits from my degree that she had approved, which I took based on her approval, when it came to my degree audit. Thank God I had extra credits, to satisfy my degree requirements! This has all really left a bad taste in my mouth about advisors. Thank God, I have emails copies of everything, which I sent her showing that she removed credits that she approved, which she stated would satisfy degree requirements, along with her apologizing for the name change error early this year; its been a week and she has yet to respond. :roflol:

True, but what the OP completed wasn't confusing- it was black and white.
I may have confused him with my NA to RA example, but it was just an example of how what the school is when you attend is what it is. If you're classes come from a 2 year school, and then later from a 4 year school, the fact that they occupy the same piece of real estate is moot.

I understand your point; but on my transcripts the credits are not listed as community college credits, after speaking with the registrar at the college, I was informed that such should be projected as state college credits; as they don't understand why Excelsior would spilt such.

[Exfactor]

I received an update today:

I was told by the dean after speaking with the registrar at my former college that all my credits, even the ones that were community college credits are now state college credits, based on the fact that such was not based on a re-accreditation issue, only a name change, and thus should be treated as such. Also the exams I took which my advisor later removed during my degree audit as she stated such did not fill requirements, he stated met requirements. So glad for this process to be over as today I also received acceptance to graduate school at Lynn University. :hurray:

[bricabrac]

Exfactor,

I'm so happy that this issue was resolved quickly and to your benefit. That advisor, was obviously a crack pot. The appeals process is an excellent tool all students should take full advantage of when needed. By what I've experienced and witnessed, as long as you have researched policy, documented the problem, and can provide proof to support your complaint, the decision tends to rule in favor of the student. Congratulations on meeting your degree requirements! Now just waiting on your conferral and the very nice diploma!! cheersmate

Good luck in your MS program!