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nnahh Wrote:TESU isn't consistent on this matter. I have an email from advising saying the since I was on the 2016 catalog this course wasn't required, but I'm seeing everyone here saying it was required for that catalog if you didn't apply by a certain date in May. (Which I didn't)
It was announced as being required after May, but they didn't finalize it on the website until sometime in June/July, so it seems to have been a manual entry for a month or two, based on a couple people I talked into enrolling in June. One enrolled the first week, and it's on his eval, the other enrolled the second week and appears to be scot free. It might also have been based on which internal school you fall under, as the first is doing a BA/CS, and the second a BSBA/ACC
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dfrecore Wrote:Honestly, with the advising situation at TESU, I'm not taking the chance. If someone asks me for their advice, I will wholeheartedly tell them NOT to get the AA/AS at TESU. I don't care what happens, unless TESU posts it online in the catalog, I'm not going to tell someone to risk $2000 on this. It is NOT worth it.
ging their minds later and rescinding the rule? They just did with the cornerstone.
You all feel free to give whatever advice you'd like. But I would feel TERRIBLE if I gave someone this advice, and then they had to pay the money again to get their BA/BS. Seriously, I would be distraught if someone followed my advice and it cost them an extra $
And, even if you get something in writing, what's to stop them from chan2000.
I agree it's not worth it, but I would just let people know about that thread, and also tell them to e-mail TESU and confirm. In the event that TESU changes this, at least they have it in writing and won't have to pay the extra $2,000.
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Nixi Wrote:I agree it's not worth it, but I would just let people know about that thread, and also tell them to e-mail TESU and confirm. In the event that TESU changes this, at least they have it in writing and won't have to pay the extra $2,000.
Again, I would not rely on an email from someone in advising on this. TESU could renege, and you could be out of luck without a huge fight - and even then, who knows how long it might take to resolve it. No thanks.
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GMT Wrote:If you are military, TECEPs still count for residency towards the Military Degree Completion Program.
They haven't been removed as yet, even though it doesn't state it on the website.
Thanks for this, as I was actually considering joining the Air National Guard!
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dfrecore Wrote:Again, I would not rely on an email from someone in advising on this. TESU could renege, and you could be out of luck without a huge fight - and even then, who knows how long it might take to resolve it. No thanks.
I agree. Actually just about almost everything I was told in TESU's Academic Advising about policies/changes ended up being wrong, even though the info was given in writing. Very frustrating.
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Toastmaster Wrote:Thanks for this, as I was actually considering joining the Air National Guard!
I wouldn't join the Air National Guard just to save around $1100, I'd be looking at the adventure instead, but that's just my opinion
Taking the TECEPS is time consuming and to be honest I've considered (as others on this forum too) a bunch of times just coughing up the $2000 to waive doing the rest of them.
If you're wanting to join the military anyway, ensure you confirm with TESU that they're not just going to pull that rug as you enroll.
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Contact the bursar, registrar, or the Learner Support Center.
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MS, MSS and Graduate Cert
AAS, AS, BA, and BS
CLEP
Intro Psych 70, US His I 64, Intro Soc 63, Intro Edu Psych 70, A&I Lit 64, Bio 68, Prin Man 69, Prin Mar 68
DSST
Life Dev Psych 62, Fund Coun 68, Intro Comp 469, Intro Astr 56, Env & Hum 70, HTYH 456, MIS 451, Prin Sup 453, HRM 62, Bus Eth 458
ALEKS
Int Alg, Coll Alg
TEEX
4 credits
TECEP
Fed Inc Tax, Sci of Nutr, Micro, Strat Man, Med Term, Pub Relations
CSU
Sys Analysis & Design, Programming, Cyber
SL
Intro to Comm, Microbio, Acc I
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GMT Wrote:Taking the TECEPS is time consuming and to be honest I've considered (as others on this forum too) a bunch of times just coughing up the $2000 to waive doing the rest of them.
I've actually not heard anyone on this forum think that $2000 is a good trade off for that, but maybe I missed it somewhere.
If you're only looking at 5 TECEP's (or is it 8?), there are ones that aren't as time-consuming as others. First and foremost, you could always repeat any ones that you've already taken, which would not be time-consuming at all (since you already know the material, it's the exact opposite of time-consuming). There are also TECEP's that fit in with other things you're already studying for: Applied Math if you're taking ALEKS Intermediate Algebra, or Computers if you've studied for the Info Sys CLEP exam. Third, there are the TECEP's that you need for your degree anyway; if you need Microecon for your business degree, it's not any more time-consuming to study for the TECEP than it is to study for the CLEP. If you need English Comp, I think it's MUCH easier to take the TECEP than the SL course. I have taken 5 TECEP's and recommend them. If you can fit them into your degree plan, they are very convenient, and if you choose the right ones, fairly easy.
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I have yet to read a whole textbook for any TECEP. The closest I came to that was reading some very short e-books for the Science of Nutrition TECEP. I'll admit, though, that I probably could have benefited from reading the whole textbook for the Networking Technology TECEP I failed. In general, I think it's a myth that you need to read the recommended textbooks in order to pass TECEPs. They are not that textbook-specific, and most textbooks cover the same topics in a similar manner. But, many TECEPs can be passed without reading a textbook at all. For the Microeconomics TECEP, I used the Instantcert flashcards for the Microeconomics CLEP.
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MS, MSS and Graduate Cert
AAS, AS, BA, and BS
CLEP
Intro Psych 70, US His I 64, Intro Soc 63, Intro Edu Psych 70, A&I Lit 64, Bio 68, Prin Man 69, Prin Mar 68
DSST
Life Dev Psych 62, Fund Coun 68, Intro Comp 469, Intro Astr 56, Env & Hum 70, HTYH 456, MIS 451, Prin Sup 453, HRM 62, Bus Eth 458
ALEKS
Int Alg, Coll Alg
TEEX
4 credits
TECEP
Fed Inc Tax, Sci of Nutr, Micro, Strat Man, Med Term, Pub Relations
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Sys Analysis & Design, Programming, Cyber
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Intro to Comm, Microbio, Acc I
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dfrecore Wrote:I've actually not heard anyone on this forum think that $2000 is a good trade off for that, but maybe I missed it somewhere.
If you're only looking at 5 TECEP's (or is it 8?), there are ones that aren't as time-consuming as others. First and foremost, you could always repeat any ones that you've already taken, which would not be time-consuming at all (since you already know the material, it's the exact opposite of time-consuming). There are also TECEP's that fit in with other things you're already studying for: Applied Math if you're taking ALEKS Intermediate Algebra, or Computers if you've studied for the Info Sys CLEP exam. Third, there are the TECEP's that you need for your degree anyway; if you need Microecon for your business degree, it's not any more time-consuming to study for the TECEP than it is to study for the CLEP. If you need English Comp, I think it's MUCH easier to take the TECEP than the SL course. I have taken 5 TECEP's and recommend them. If you can fit them into your degree plan, they are very convenient, and if you choose the right ones, fairly easy.
Sometimes I wonder why I bother saying anything on here at all.
All I did was step in to correct the WRONG information given to someone about TECEPs and residency.
And oh boy, it's not the first time there's been WRONG information given to people on here.
Yes, military folk have chatted about jumping off the MDCP and on to the civillian plan, paying $2000 just to finish faster.
Yes, you missed it, so what?
Military are still on the 12/24 credit plan for residency, incuding TECEPs
If I was still at the beginning of them, I wouldn't hesitate to cough up the waiver to save doing them.
I've done 7 TECEPs and personally I am not a massive fan of the set up.
I haven't touched CLEPs because there isn't a convenient place to do them.
It's great you like TECEPs, I found them a chore.
I don't need anymore thankfully, but it's good for others to know there is an option.
I've watched people on this forum take TECEPs you have said were easy peasy, and they failed them. That's not cool.
I bet they were thinking maybe $2000 isn't that bad after all, either.
There's a lot of black/white on this forum at times, however, what suits one person, doesn't necessarily suit another.
I still wouldn't join the military just to save about $1100 ... maybe you would, but everyone is different.
Each to their own.
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