Question about transfer credits to TESC

[Mian]

That you know of, has TESC ever changed the level of a transfer credit from upper to lower?

[Getiton1]

I do not know of TESC CHANGING upper level credits to lower AFTER it's been on a academic evaluation.

However, I do know that TESC doesn't not transfer in upper level credit for credits earned at a Community College. The STOPPED giving upper level credits for community college classes a little over a year ago to the best of my recollection.

Hope that answers your question?

Tara

That you know of, has TESC ever changed the level of a transfer credit from upper to lower?

[Mian]

I'm wondering more about it being changed from a UL while it's coming in to the evaluation. I'm going to work on a BA English and I need to have 15SH be upper level. But I'm a bit confused about how they transfer in to TESC. For instance several of these classes are listed as upper level, including English and American Literature:

https://is.lsu.edu/courselist.asp?cat=En...id=102&pg=

But if you take English and/or American Literature CLEPs they are lower level at TESC. Technical writing is another example. Upper level some places, lower level others and TESC counts the DSST as lower level.

Also, some of these classes seemed interesting:

Independent Learning Courses at WWU

But would anything with "Introduction to..." in its title be counted as upper level as it came into TESC? Aren't introductory classes usually lower level? Obviously these are considerably more expensive than taking CLEPs so I'm wondering if anyone might have insight on how they would transfer into TESC. I hope that explains what I mean a bit better.

[Getiton1]

Hi Mian,

I am just about to head to bed….but all the CLEPs are lower level…I think the only exception might be a CLEP for language (help me out here more senior posters).

DSST's have courses that count towards upper level I think one of the posters on here lists them I am thinking it was UptonSinclair or Sanantone that list which classes will count for upper or lower level credits. Try using the white search box on the upper left side of this thread and do a search using "upper level credit" and add whatever class you are looking to find out the answer too.

Also Upton Sinclair and Sanantone have these really awesome and helpful links with degree plans and which courses will meet the degree requirements at the Big 3. I have used both of their posts and I am ALMOST DONE!!! If you have a question about a specific course being upper or lower level, feel free to post that so we can help you more specifically.

Best of luck!
Tara

PS You can private message me if we lose each other on this thread!

I'm wondering more about it being changed from a UL while it's coming in to the evaluation. I'm going to work on a BA English and I need to have 15SH be upper level. But I'm a bit confused about how they transfer in to TESC. For instance several of these classes are listed as upper level, including English and American Literature:

https://is.lsu.edu/courselist.asp?cat=En...id=102&pg=

But if you take English and/or American Literature CLEPs they are lower level at TESC. Technical writing is another example. Upper level some places, lower level others and TESC counts the DSST as lower level.

Also, some of these classes seemed interesting:

Independent Learning Courses at WWU

But would anything with "Introduction to..." in its title be counted as upper level as it came into TESC? Aren't introductory classes usually lower level? Obviously these are considerably more expensive than taking CLEPs so I'm wondering if anyone might have insight on how they would transfer into TESC. I hope that explains what I mean a bit better.

[sanantone]

There are some UL CLEPs (at TESC), but they're in business. A BA in Humanities or even a BA in Communications would be more test/self-paced course friendly. Community college courses are always LL. I think graduate courses are always counted as UL for TESC's undergraduate programs. Everything else will be matched to the courses that TESC either offers or has evaluated in the PLA database. TESC does not follow UL/LL recommendations from ACE or NCCRS. They also don't care about how the original school coded the courses. An introductory, foundations, or principles course can be UL at TESC. It all depends.

[Getiton1]

Hi Mian,

You know I am about 75% sure that the English Cleps (British Lit and American Lit) are lower level at TESC…and I am not sure which DSST's might help you meet your requirements? Have you tried looking at the handy grids that either Sanantone or IrishJohn posted for a "TESC" equivalent? That would be a good start, but if I were you I would e-mail the registrar or someone in the English Department to get it in writing which courses count towards upper level (to be extra safe).

There are other options for upper level credit too! I think Straighterline Courses offer many upper level options if TESC will take them towards your chosen degree.

Sanantone posted that Community Colleges are lower level credit now too…so that hopefully answers any questions you might have about CC credits transferring in?

Hope this helps,
Tara

I'm wondering more about it being changed from a UL while it's coming in to the evaluation. I'm going to work on a BA English and I need to have 15SH be upper level. But I'm a bit confused about how they transfer in to TESC. For instance several of these classes are listed as upper level, including English and American Literature:

https://is.lsu.edu/courselist.asp?cat=En...id=102&pg=

But if you take English and/or American Literature CLEPs they are lower level at TESC. Technical writing is another example. Upper level some places, lower level others and TESC counts the DSST as lower level.

Also, some of these classes seemed interesting:

Independent Learning Courses at WWU

But would anything with "Introduction to..." in its title be counted as upper level as it came into TESC? Aren't introductory classes usually lower level? Obviously these are considerably more expensive than taking CLEPs so I'm wondering if anyone might have insight on how they would transfer into TESC. I hope that explains what I mean a bit better.

[Mian]

They also don't care about how the original school coded the courses. An introductory, foundations, or principles course can be UL at TESC. It all depends.

Not sure what to do then, that makes things really difficult since there's not much to choose from out there and there's not much information from others who have gone before on what has counted as UL at TESC (for the BA English, using independent study open enrollment courses that are out there at various places). Maybe tomorrow I'll post the classes I was looking at taking. One I was enrolled in at LSU was Adolescent Literature, but the workload was way too much so I'm trying to switch to Survey of Women and Literature, but LSU is taking a very long time about getting that done so I'm in limbo. I don't know if I'm even still in the drop period for an 80% refund. And now I don't know if it will transfer to TESC as UL so I may just be wasting my time, effort and money. I feel confused and discouraged.

[Mian]

but if I were you I would e-mail the registrar or someone in the English Department to get it in writing which courses count towards upper level (to be extra safe).

TESC will not answer these types of questions unless you pay the thousands of $$ enrollment. I don't want to pay that without having significant number of credits done already because if I paid it now, there's no way I'd be able to finish everything in a year and would have to pay again. It's too much. I'm trying to figure it out on my own. As for CLEPs and DSSTs, I'm pretty much done with those except the American Literature CLEP for my survey of literature that I need in the area of study. I'm still studying for that. I have my general education credits done and have transferred in all the CC credits I can for that. TESC requires 15 area of study credits be UL, so CC credits and CLEPs/DSSTs are useless to me for that. I got Technical Writing done (DSST) but it didn't go in as upper level even though some schools offer it as that. Maybe I just can't do this degree afterall. I don't know.

[Mian]

I wonder if using this PA finder can give an idea on what might transfer as UL?

Thomas Edison State College: Course Offerings

[Westerner]

Here are what some English major friends have used.

-TESC courses (all UL):
Non-Western Lit
African Encounters
Advanced American Lit I and II
One Author's Vision: Jane Austen

Thomas Edison State College: Course Offerings

-BYU (Brigham Young University) classes (UL & LL, I think):
The American Novel
Writing about Literature
Creative Writing
British Lit Late Renaissance
Shakespeare

Many more here: Online Course Catalog - BYU Independent Study

-University of Idaho courses here: http://www.uiweb.uidaho.edu/schedule/cat...nglish.pdf