English requirements + info needed

[MrPanda]

I evaluated my credits using ACEI, it was not the cheapest, and it didn´t recognized all my credits as "Undergraduate" or "Graduate", but marked some of the courses as "Continuing Education", that TESU didn´t recognize.

The benefit that I had, is that ACEI didn´t require me to send any physical transcript, they also didn´t ask for syllabus or any additional information.

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At first, to check my progress, I justed pasted the relevant tables from this website https://degreeforum.miraheze.org/wiki/Sa...ience_Plan into an Excel file, and started marking them as complete, and writing the relevant source in an adjacent cell.

As you already have some potential courses, it would be a good idea to send the evaluation first, to see if you have already completed anything. However, maybe some information could be found on the web, regarding if your current certificate can be evaluated for credit for a foreign credit evaluator (FCE).

TESU only accepts these FCEs:


Academic Credentials Evaluation Institute, Inc. (ACEI)
Center for Applied Research, Evaluations & Education, Inc.
Educational Credential Evaluators, Inc. (ECE)
World Educational Services, Inc. (WES)
SDR Educational Consultants
SpanTran Evaluation Services
Transcript Research

https://www.tesu.edu/admissions/apply-in...al-student

So you could try to see with the specific name of your certificate, if any of those FCE could evaluate it.

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For the 30 RA credits required to finish, don´t worry, as it´s that much difficult, as you already most probably do a 15 credit term at TESU, therefore, only needing 15 additional credits.

In my case, the recent RA 3 undergraduate credits courses that I got through alternative means, that are still availabe, were through:

https://www.tel-education.org/home/

However, try to see the possiblity of the evaluation first, to avoid unnecessary expenses.

[alexeo_13]

I evaluated my credits using ACEI, it was not the cheapest, and it didn´t recognized all my credits as "Undergraduate" or "Graduate", but marked some of the courses as "Continuing Education", that TESU didn´t recognize.

The benefit that I had, is that ACEI didn´t require me to send any physical transcript, they also didn´t ask for syllabus or any additional information.

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At first, to check my progress, I justed pasted the relevant tables from this website https://degreeforum.miraheze.org/wiki/Sa...ience_Plan into an Excel file, and started marking them as complete, and writing the relevant source in an adjacent cell.

As you already have some potential courses, it would be a good idea to send the evaluation first, to see if you have already completed anything. However, maybe some information could be found on the web, regarding if your current certificate can be evaluated for credit for a foreign credit evaluator (FCE).

TESU only accepts these FCEs:


   Academic Credentials Evaluation Institute, Inc. (ACEI)
   Center for Applied Research, Evaluations & Education, Inc.
   Educational Credential Evaluators, Inc. (ECE)
   World Educational Services, Inc. (WES)
   SDR Educational Consultants
   SpanTran Evaluation Services
   Transcript Research

https://www.tesu.edu/admissions/apply-in...al-student

So you could try to see with the specific name of your certificate, if any of those FCE could evaluate it.

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For the 30 RA credits required to finish, don´t worry, as it´s that much difficult, as you already most probably do a 15 credit term at TESU, therefore, only needing 15 additional credits.

In my case, the recent RA 3 undergraduate credits courses that I got through alternative means, that are still availabe, were through:

https://www.tel-education.org/home/

However, try to see the possiblity of the evaluation first, to avoid unnecessary expenses.

Thank you for all the information! Yes I think I will do the evaluation first that maybe then, they can be some RA credits if that's how it works

by your last statement you mean that I do two terms? or do the 15 through tel education? and do you think it's better to enroll at TESU now (the term was Lock In), do I then have the option to add the double degree because I couldn't find it in their degree list.

[MrPanda]

No, you shouldn´t do 2 terms at TESU, that would be too expensive.

You do a term of 15 credits at TESU, and you should get your other 15 RA credits at any other program/university.

I was saying that as an example, I got credits using TEL Learning, there aren´t really terms, you just complete the course when you can (2 weeks, 3 months, etc), considering a set time limit that they give you (I think it was one year).

[alexeo_13]

No, you shouldn´t do 2 terms at TESU, that would be too expensive.

You do a term of 15 credits at TESU, and you should get your other 15 RA credits at any other program/university.

I was saying that as an example, I got credits using TEL Learning, there aren´t really terms, you just complete the course when you can (2 weeks, 3 months, etc), considering a set limit time that they give you (I think it was one year).

Appreciare the information , was really helpful. Yes exactly doing two terms would be diffucult for me.
I will wait for some information about the double bachelor degree, just curious where you choose that or apply for it basically.
This link has been super helpful for anyone reading this (I think you can just follow the exact steps?).

[MrPanda]

You just apply to one Bachelor´s program, and then when you are already enrolled, you send an email asking for an additional program to be added to your evaluation.

However, you can later remove the additional program, if you are not going to finish it.

[alexeo_13]

You just apply to one Bachelor´s program, and then when you are already enrolled, you send an email asking for an additional program to be added to your evaluation.

However, you can later remove the additional program, if you are not going to finish it.

I see, so I can start focusing on courses related to BS CS then if I see myself able I add the program and finish up the courses related to the other bachelor? do you think with the time I can allocate it's possible? I think when you are just preparing the credit you can take as much as needed but when you start a TESU course the term kick in and you have limited time as I understand.
I am not sure if it's best to sign up and then start my diploma evaluation or wait untill I get all my credit set up then enroll to TESU. also any recommendation for what to take to avoid the english test requirements or can it be anything just that it needs to be RA (TEL, Finnish universities).
Thanks again for all the help!

[MrPanda]

As you could have already read, there´s no need to sign up for your 15 credits term early, you can just register for a 1 credit TECEP (Medical Terminology), to get unlimited evaluations. Otherwise, you only get two.

However, while being just a candidate, you can send the evaluation of your certificate, in case it could be evaluated, as this could be only counted as 1 evaluation.

Regarding your other questions:

"if I understood correctly it's possible to do more than two bachelors at the same time like in one term?"

The limit is two bachelors, but each bachelor could have one or two mentions, so in my case, I have been trying to get:

Bachelor of Arts in Computer Science and Mathematics (1st degree)
Bacholor of Science in Business Administration - Operations management and Human Resources (2nd degree)

"do certificates from coursera or edx also require that you submit them to ACEI."

No, the elegible Coursera and edX courses are ACE credit recommended, and their credit suggestions go to your Credly account, where you collect your badges.

We are talking about this ACE: https://www.acenet.edu/National-Guide/Pa...fault.aspx

" I am guessing submiting credits and such to TESU is free and each time you are basically checking off credits ?"

Yes, there´s no cost in getting your credits evaluated, you can just keep sending credits.

"how do you make sure you don't transfer more than 15 RA credit as not to pay the waiver fee."

You are mixing things, you pay the waiver fee to TESU (if you don´t take enough credits with them) or you take the 15 credits term in TESU (and don´t pay the waiver fee), one or the other.

"for Finnish universities did you sign up for those as well? what was the process like?"

Check the XAMK thread, however, I think that those are no longer available, that´s why I didn´t mention them. You could check the XAMK thread to see if there´s still a chance, but I think that there´s not.

[alexeo_13]

As you could have already read, there´s no need to sign up for your 15 credits term early, you can just register for a 1 credit TECEP (Medical Terminology), to get unlimited evaluations. Otherwise, you only get two.

However, while being just a candidate, you can send the evaluation of your certificate, in case it could be evaluated, as this could be only counted as 1 evaluation.

Regarding your other questions:

"if I understood correctly it's possible to do more than two bachelors at the same time like in one term?"

The limit is two bachelors, but each bachelor could have one or two mentions, so in my case, I have been trying to get:

Bachelor of Arts in Computer Science and Mathematics (1st degree)
Bacholor of Science in Business Administration - Operations management and Human Resources (2nd degree)

"do certificates from coursera or edx also require that you submit them to ACEI."

No, the elegible Coursera and edX courses are ACE credit recommended, and their credit suggestions go to your Credly account, where you collect your badges.

We are talking about this ACE: https://www.acenet.edu/National-Guide/Pa...fault.aspx

" I am guessing submiting credits and such to TESU is free and each time you are basically checking off credits ?"

Yes, there´s no cost in getting your credits evaluated, you can just keep sending credits.

"how do you make sure you don't transfer more than 15 RA credit as not to pay the waiver fee."

You are mixing things, you pay the waiver fee to TESU (if you don´t take enough credits with them) or you take the 15 credits term in TESU (and don´t pay the waiver fee), one or the other.

"for Finnish universities did you sign up for those as well? what was the process like?"

Check the XAMK thread, however, I think that those are no longer available, that´s why I didn´t mention them. You could check the XAMK thread to see if there´s still a chance, but I think that there´s not.

Helllo I thank you for your detailed answer, I didn't understand your first point for the TECEP do you mean I sign up for a TECEP so I can get unlimited evaluations and then start courses from SDC and the like (if there is somewhere I can read more on this please do link it)? what is the difference between an evaluation and sending credit, is evaluation for like things from ACEI? and a final thing please if I understood you it would be better first to get my evaluation sent from ACEI to TESU (after registering) so I can see how much normal credits or RA credits are checked off to start?

[MrPanda]

For the TECEP part, check here:

https://degreeforum.miraheze.org/wiki/Th...University

Specifically the "To Enroll or Not to Enroll" section.

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You get a foreign credit evaluation from an evaluator like ACEI, but when I mentioned the "2 evaluations", I mean the final evaluation that TESU does when they get your ACEI evaluation, or your ACE credits, and place your credits in the different spots required to complete your degree.

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"it would be better first to get my evaluation sent from ACEI to TESU (after registering) so I can see how much normal credits or RA credits are checked off to start? "

Yes, if you think your certificate could give you credits, it could be a good idea to do it.

[alexeo_13]

Hello first I hope I am doing this correctly, second thanks for taking the time to read my questions.

If relevant I am hoping to apply to the BA in computer and maybe a BSBA or/and associate degree.

1. I understand that TESU has a english language requirement for international students which as I understand can be also "9 semester credit hours (not including ESL or developmental courses)" I think semester is basically RA credits so I am wondering what will be your recommendation for relatively easy credits to take to avoid english test and also serve as credits to transfer?
         > And to confirm please the language requirment are the only restriction for people outside for the US? like there are not some country specific rules?
   
2. I am trying to see if I can follow this plan rachel83az_version and I was wondering how doable this is for someone with only evening available? is it possible to switch things that instead of BSBA Core credits, one would focus on BA CS since that is my main goal or is it that way because the credits there are required?
   
3. How can I find if there is alternatives providers suggested for a specific course other than the one suggested in a study plan?