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Completely changing it from a 101 to a 301 course just doesn't make a lot of sense to me. Yes most 301 level courses cover the same base topic, with the addition of more details and required work, so that I understand. What I question is why get rid of the 101 level version. Just make the changes to the base course and create the new upper level course while retaining the lower level version. This would allow for flexibility as well as then having 2 courses SDC can charge for.
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A possible reason is because they want to create more options for upper level credit, instead of focusing and creating more lower level courses that may be available by other alternative credit providers. In this case, they can upgrade the course in small increments to upper level, this eliminates the need of creating a completely new course with similar content. My guess is they are trying to build courses that can't be taken anywhere else and focus more on that...
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If you want to get a Philosophy BA, you can get 101 anywhere. UL credits are the problem. If Study.com wants to add 6 UL Philo credits it would make a Philosophy BA possible at the Big 3
I personally think it's a great idea. I would love to get one after I finish what I'm working on now
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08-20-2023, 12:57 PM
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(08-19-2023, 03:33 AM)GameSlinger Wrote: Completely changing it from a 101 to a 301 course just doesn't make a lot of sense to me. Yes most 301 level courses cover the same base topic, with the addition of more details and required work, so that I understand. What I question is why get rid of the 101 level version. Just make the changes to the base course and create the new upper level course while retaining the lower level version. This would allow for flexibility as well as then having 2 courses SDC can charge for.
I am going to guess that Intro to Philosophy was not a course that got used a lot, so it made more sense to just get rid of that and switch it. UL credit is WAY more valuable than LL, so if they can make the switch without it costing them anything, by all means, they should.
(08-19-2023, 06:28 PM)jsh1138 Wrote: If Study.com wants to add 6 UL Philo credits it would make a Philosophy BA possible at the Big 3
I still don't think it's possible, because you still need the following:
A course in Logic (none via alt-credit that I can find)
1-2 courses in Major Field of Philosophy (Ethics is an easy one)
1-2 courses in Major Philosophers
1-2 courses in History of Philosophy
12cr total between these 3 areas ^^
The good news is that there are TONS of UL Ethics courses from SDC and Coopersmith, so your 15cr of UL is covered. It's trying to find courses on specific philosophers and the history of philosophy that's difficult. Most CC's don't have much in that. I'm guessing religion will be an easy one to consider, but still hard to find inexpensively.
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The course has now been updated to Philosophy 301: Principles of Philosophy (though the URL still uses the old number). The ACE recommendation is for 6 upper-division (upper level) semester hours.
Neither does the ACE recommendation mention, nor the course as I see it include, an assignment apart from the quizzes and exam. (I'm logged into SDC with a non-credit membership plan.)
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(08-20-2023, 01:09 PM)Jonathan Whatley Wrote: The course has now been updated to Philosophy 301: Principles of Philosophy (though the URL still uses the old number). The ACE recommendation is for 6 upper-division (upper level) semester hours.
Neither does the ACE recommendation mention, nor the course as I see it include, an assignment apart from the quizzes and exam. (I'm logged into SDC with a non-credit membership plan.)
I logged in to my for Credit account and it shows only Quizzes plus Final proctored exam = Course Grade
Now to figure out how everyone transfers it in.
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Wow, that's totally unexpected, it was updated 8/18/23 and doesn't indicate the assignments, someone get it done ASAP before they add the assignments and see how it comes into TESU or whatever institution you think you're going with, 6 credits for just quizzes/exam...
Philosophy 101: Intro to Philosophy The ACE credit recommendation for Philosophy 101: Intro to Philosophy is being changed from 3 lower division credits to 6 upper division credits.
Due to this, the name of the course will be changed to Philosophy 301: Principles of Philosophy 8/18/23
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I'll submit it this week and report back
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SNHU has a minor in Philosophy that one student was talking about getting.
https://www.snhu.edu/program-finder/minors
If UMPI students can get 6 UL credits, it will be cheaper and easier to do Philosophy than any other Study.com courses.
TESU Liberal Arts majors might be able to use this for UL.
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(08-21-2023, 11:34 AM)LevelUP Wrote: If UMPI students can get 6 UL credits, it will be cheaper and easier to do Philosophy than any other Study.com courses.
TESU Liberal Arts majors might be able to use this for UL.
The other nice thing is that you can take 2 COURSES for the month - no limit on how many credits those courses are. So you could do this course, and another one (maybe a 4cr one?) and actually get 9cr or 10cr for the month, rather than just 6cr. So a nice little bonus. The fact that it may come in as UL is also a nice bonus (but don't forget that there is no guarantee on it yet).
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