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Need Suggestions for a friend on Engineering
#11
sanantone Wrote:http://ssc.und.edu/PDF/CLEP.pdf

It says they require the last 30 credits to be earned from UND. Does that mean that the other 90 can be CLEP/DSST, etc?
CLEP:
West. Civ I - 65, A&I Lit - 66, Biology - 65, Chemistry - 55, Nat. Sciences - 64, US Hist I - 68, Am. Lit - 61, US Hist II - 62, Am. Gov. - 67, Macroecon. - 63, Microecon. - 75, College Comp. - 66, Prin. of Marketing - 68, Prin. of Mngt - 71

DSST:
Civil War and Reconst. - 70, Prin. of Supervision - 443, Intro to World Rel - 477, Intro to Bus - 443, HR Mgmt - 64, Intro to Computing - 458, Prin. of Fin. Acct - 80Big Grin, Bus Ethics & Society - 447, Prin. of Finance - 437

ALEKS:
Int. Algebra, College Algebra, Precalc, Intro to Stats., Business Stats.

SAYLOR:
Corp. Comm - 78%, Bus Law and Ethics - 76%

PENN FOSTER:
Manag. Acct. - 96, Int. Acct. 1 - 98, Int. Acct. 2 - 87, Cost Acct. - 94, Strategic Bus. Mngt. - 95

ADAMS STATE:
Auditing - 89

LSU:
Adv. Acct. - B

TECEP:
Fed Income Taxation

BSBA Accounting
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#12
HorseManiac Wrote:I know next to nothing about Canada and how their education works and I also don't know very much about engineering. What things should he be looking into and paying attention to? […] I also don't know what college credits he has (if any) so I know that's not much help. I might be able to find out from him if that would help.

I know much about Canada! Tell us more about him. Do you know anything about his high school background? Has he completed high school? School or homeschool? Recently? How far has he gone and with what sort of performance in math and physics especially?
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#13
HorseManiac Wrote:Okay, I guess that rules out the big 3 then. Do you know how much CLEP that UND will accept? I'm having a hard time finding it. I don't know if the cost of UND will be doable for him. I'll have to do some more looking into B&M schools near where he's moving to. There is one school that offers an Associates in Engineering. Is an associates going to get him anywhere? He'll have to have a Bachelor's right?

There are three categories:

1. Technician - associate's degree
2. Technologist - bachelor's degree in engineering technology
3. Engineer - bachelor's degree in engineering

I was reviewing my state's requirements again. They require twice as many years of experience for a person with an engineering technology degree (8 years) than for a person with an engineering degree (4 years). They will also accept degrees in mathematics and physical sciences, but again, the person will need twice as much experience.
Graduate of Not VUL or ENEB
MS, MSS and Graduate Cert
AAS, AS, BA, and BS
CLEP
Intro Psych 70, US His I 64, Intro Soc 63, Intro Edu Psych 70, A&I Lit 64, Bio 68, Prin Man 69, Prin Mar 68
DSST
Life Dev Psych 62, Fund Coun 68, Intro Comp 469, Intro Astr 56, Env & Hum 70, HTYH 456, MIS 451, Prin Sup 453, HRM 62, Bus Eth 458
ALEKS
Int Alg, Coll Alg
TEEX
4 credits
TECEP
Fed Inc Tax, Sci of Nutr, Micro, Strat Man, Med Term, Pub Relations
CSU
Sys Analysis & Design, Programming, Cyber
SL
Intro to Comm, Microbio, Acc I
Uexcel
A&P
Davar
Macro, Intro to Fin, Man Acc
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#14
sanantone Wrote:There are three categories:

1. Technician - associate's degree
2. Technologist - bachelor's degree in engineering technology
3. Engineer - bachelor's degree in engineering

I was reviewing my state's requirements again. They require twice as many years of experience for a person with an engineering technology degree (8 years) than for a person with an engineering degree (4 years). They will also accept degrees in mathematics and physical sciences, but again, the person will need twice as much experience.

Okay, thanks for spelling that out. Makes much more sense now. Smile

I'll take a look at the state requirements tomorrow. He would be working in Ohio if that helps any.
CLEP:
West. Civ I - 65, A&I Lit - 66, Biology - 65, Chemistry - 55, Nat. Sciences - 64, US Hist I - 68, Am. Lit - 61, US Hist II - 62, Am. Gov. - 67, Macroecon. - 63, Microecon. - 75, College Comp. - 66, Prin. of Marketing - 68, Prin. of Mngt - 71

DSST:
Civil War and Reconst. - 70, Prin. of Supervision - 443, Intro to World Rel - 477, Intro to Bus - 443, HR Mgmt - 64, Intro to Computing - 458, Prin. of Fin. Acct - 80Big Grin, Bus Ethics & Society - 447, Prin. of Finance - 437

ALEKS:
Int. Algebra, College Algebra, Precalc, Intro to Stats., Business Stats.

SAYLOR:
Corp. Comm - 78%, Bus Law and Ethics - 76%

PENN FOSTER:
Manag. Acct. - 96, Int. Acct. 1 - 98, Int. Acct. 2 - 87, Cost Acct. - 94, Strategic Bus. Mngt. - 95

ADAMS STATE:
Auditing - 89

LSU:
Adv. Acct. - B

TECEP:
Fed Income Taxation

BSBA Accounting
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#15
HorseManiac Wrote:It says they require the last 30 credits to be earned from UND. Does that mean that the other 90 can be CLEP/DSST, etc?

That seems to be the case. If you read the rest of the paragraph, it suggests that CLEP is treated just like any other transfer credit.
Quote:Since
CLEP credit is considered equivalent to credit earned at another
institution, a student wishing to have CLEP credit included
within the last 30 hours must have appropriate petitions approved
by the CLEP Committee and the Dean of the college from which
the student is receiving a degree.
Graduate of Not VUL or ENEB
MS, MSS and Graduate Cert
AAS, AS, BA, and BS
CLEP
Intro Psych 70, US His I 64, Intro Soc 63, Intro Edu Psych 70, A&I Lit 64, Bio 68, Prin Man 69, Prin Mar 68
DSST
Life Dev Psych 62, Fund Coun 68, Intro Comp 469, Intro Astr 56, Env & Hum 70, HTYH 456, MIS 451, Prin Sup 453, HRM 62, Bus Eth 458
ALEKS
Int Alg, Coll Alg
TEEX
4 credits
TECEP
Fed Inc Tax, Sci of Nutr, Micro, Strat Man, Med Term, Pub Relations
CSU
Sys Analysis & Design, Programming, Cyber
SL
Intro to Comm, Microbio, Acc I
Uexcel
A&P
Davar
Macro, Intro to Fin, Man Acc
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#16
Jonathan Whatley Wrote:I know much about Canada! Tell us more about him. Do you know anything about his high school background? Has he completed high school? School or homeschool? Recently? How far has he gone and with what sort of performance in math and physics especially?


Great!!! Thanks so much! I know he said he has a high school diploma and that he completed 12th grade. As far as I know he went to a public school. It's been awhile though because he's in his 30's. I don't believe he has any college/engineering experience. He's had several circumstances come up in life so he hasn't gone to college yet as far as I know. I'll try and email tomorrow and see if I can find out what high school classes he took. I do know he's a math/science whiz. Smile
CLEP:
West. Civ I - 65, A&I Lit - 66, Biology - 65, Chemistry - 55, Nat. Sciences - 64, US Hist I - 68, Am. Lit - 61, US Hist II - 62, Am. Gov. - 67, Macroecon. - 63, Microecon. - 75, College Comp. - 66, Prin. of Marketing - 68, Prin. of Mngt - 71

DSST:
Civil War and Reconst. - 70, Prin. of Supervision - 443, Intro to World Rel - 477, Intro to Bus - 443, HR Mgmt - 64, Intro to Computing - 458, Prin. of Fin. Acct - 80Big Grin, Bus Ethics & Society - 447, Prin. of Finance - 437

ALEKS:
Int. Algebra, College Algebra, Precalc, Intro to Stats., Business Stats.

SAYLOR:
Corp. Comm - 78%, Bus Law and Ethics - 76%

PENN FOSTER:
Manag. Acct. - 96, Int. Acct. 1 - 98, Int. Acct. 2 - 87, Cost Acct. - 94, Strategic Bus. Mngt. - 95

ADAMS STATE:
Auditing - 89

LSU:
Adv. Acct. - B

TECEP:
Fed Income Taxation

BSBA Accounting
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#17
Quote:Candidates for the FE examination can apply directly to NCEES.

Graduation from an engineering program of four years or more accredited by the Engineering Accreditation Commission of ABET (EAC/ABET) or the Engineering Technology Accreditation Commission of ABET (ETAC/ABET).
Graduation from an engineering program of four years or more from outside of the U.S. that has been evaluated by NCEES Credentials Evaluations as meeting the NCEES Education Standard.
Graduation from an EAC/ABET accredited master’s program in engineering.
Ohio
Graduate of Not VUL or ENEB
MS, MSS and Graduate Cert
AAS, AS, BA, and BS
CLEP
Intro Psych 70, US His I 64, Intro Soc 63, Intro Edu Psych 70, A&I Lit 64, Bio 68, Prin Man 69, Prin Mar 68
DSST
Life Dev Psych 62, Fund Coun 68, Intro Comp 469, Intro Astr 56, Env & Hum 70, HTYH 456, MIS 451, Prin Sup 453, HRM 62, Bus Eth 458
ALEKS
Int Alg, Coll Alg
TEEX
4 credits
TECEP
Fed Inc Tax, Sci of Nutr, Micro, Strat Man, Med Term, Pub Relations
CSU
Sys Analysis & Design, Programming, Cyber
SL
Intro to Comm, Microbio, Acc I
Uexcel
A&P
Davar
Macro, Intro to Fin, Man Acc
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#18
HorseManiac Wrote:It says they require the last 30 credits to be earned from UND. Does that mean that the other 90 can be CLEP/DSST, etc?

Not really.

First of all, the engineering degrees require 129-135 credits Online & Distance Education

Tuition info is here Tuition & Financial Aid | Mechanical Engineering | Degrees | Online Distance | Extended Learning | Academics | UND: University of North Dakota

Here are the requirements for the mechanical engineering degree Mechanical Engineering (ME) < University of North Dakota

He's not going to be able to do 90 credits of CLEP. He can't CLEP out of thermodynamics, for example.
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#19
sanantone Wrote:That seems to be the case. If you read the rest of the paragraph, it suggests that CLEP is treated just like any other transfer credit.

Okay, that's not bad if they allow 90 credits. I'd have to work on a plan to see if he could really get all 90 from testing out. Thanks for your help. I definitely have some direction now.

Another thought, I've looked at two local state schools so far and both only offer Associates. I know you said that Technician isn't great but would he be able to get a job with an Associates and maybe later on get a Bachelors? Someone else I know who works in engineering said a company might even pay to send him back to school. Would that be an option?
CLEP:
West. Civ I - 65, A&I Lit - 66, Biology - 65, Chemistry - 55, Nat. Sciences - 64, US Hist I - 68, Am. Lit - 61, US Hist II - 62, Am. Gov. - 67, Macroecon. - 63, Microecon. - 75, College Comp. - 66, Prin. of Marketing - 68, Prin. of Mngt - 71

DSST:
Civil War and Reconst. - 70, Prin. of Supervision - 443, Intro to World Rel - 477, Intro to Bus - 443, HR Mgmt - 64, Intro to Computing - 458, Prin. of Fin. Acct - 80Big Grin, Bus Ethics & Society - 447, Prin. of Finance - 437

ALEKS:
Int. Algebra, College Algebra, Precalc, Intro to Stats., Business Stats.

SAYLOR:
Corp. Comm - 78%, Bus Law and Ethics - 76%

PENN FOSTER:
Manag. Acct. - 96, Int. Acct. 1 - 98, Int. Acct. 2 - 87, Cost Acct. - 94, Strategic Bus. Mngt. - 95

ADAMS STATE:
Auditing - 89

LSU:
Adv. Acct. - B

TECEP:
Fed Income Taxation

BSBA Accounting
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#20
cathgrl Wrote:Not really.

First of all, the engineering degrees require 129-135 credits Online & Distance Education

Tuition info is here (look at the distance column) Tuition & Financial Aid | Mechanical Engineering | Degrees | Online Distance | Extended Learning | Academics | UND: University of North Dakota

Here are the requirements for the mechanical engineering degree Mechanical Engineering (ME) < University of North Dakota

He's not going to be able to do 90 credits of CLEP. He can't CLEP out of thermodynamics, for example.

But at $170 a credit hour, that's very affordable ...

Thanks cathgirl!! I'll take a look at the requirements and see what he could test out of possibly!! Smile
CLEP:
West. Civ I - 65, A&I Lit - 66, Biology - 65, Chemistry - 55, Nat. Sciences - 64, US Hist I - 68, Am. Lit - 61, US Hist II - 62, Am. Gov. - 67, Macroecon. - 63, Microecon. - 75, College Comp. - 66, Prin. of Marketing - 68, Prin. of Mngt - 71

DSST:
Civil War and Reconst. - 70, Prin. of Supervision - 443, Intro to World Rel - 477, Intro to Bus - 443, HR Mgmt - 64, Intro to Computing - 458, Prin. of Fin. Acct - 80Big Grin, Bus Ethics & Society - 447, Prin. of Finance - 437

ALEKS:
Int. Algebra, College Algebra, Precalc, Intro to Stats., Business Stats.

SAYLOR:
Corp. Comm - 78%, Bus Law and Ethics - 76%

PENN FOSTER:
Manag. Acct. - 96, Int. Acct. 1 - 98, Int. Acct. 2 - 87, Cost Acct. - 94, Strategic Bus. Mngt. - 95

ADAMS STATE:
Auditing - 89

LSU:
Adv. Acct. - B

TECEP:
Fed Income Taxation

BSBA Accounting
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