My Journey to TESU BSBA GM - Advice/encouragement welcome!

[dfrecore]

If you'd like to see my class plan, please check out my spreadsheet below:
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1...sp=sharing

Any comments/advice welcomed! If anyone would like to take a look and point out any errors I may have made, I'd appreciate it; I'm new at this, haha.

A few notes:
- I've organized my spreadsheet by priority and question marks; so the classes at the top are the ones that I'm not sure exactly how they'll come in as.
- TESU gave me credit for the History MOOC that I did through Liberty. I re-did that class through StraighterLine when Liberty only gave me that class as free elective credit; I'm pretty sure TESU will duplicate them. If they do, what happens? Does one get sent to free elective or do I simply not get credit for it?
- I'm looking into seeing if TESU will give me credit for my Chinese proficiency certification, but if not then I'll need to fill my Humanities slot.
- Can anyone tell me if Study.com's Busi 309 will fit into the AoS Marketing slot?
- I'm wondering if I can appeal TESU putting my Intermed Business Applications class into the Business Elective slot instead of the Computers slot. My issue is that I have another class from Liberty that wasn't on my original transcript (because that class hadn't posted final grades when Liberty sent my transcript) and I have no idea how it's going to come in. I hope it'll come in as my 5th AoS class but if not, it needs to go into Business Electives but those are already full. Anyone got any advice on this?

Your spreadsheet is completely confusing to me, so I can't help with that part. I just can't figure out what you've already taken, and what it came in as, to help figure out what you can take or move around or anything.

Any time a class comes in with the same course number, it will be a duplicate, and won't be counted.

No on the Chinese proficiency cert unless it was ACE or NCCRS recommended. But you can do ACTFL instead.

BUsiness 309 comes in as MAR-441.

You can always ask for courses to be moved, but the problem is going to be if it fits where you want it. What was the course number they gave Intermed Bus Apps?

[Gymfan15]

Sorry about the confusing part; *I* understand my spreadsheet but I realize it doesn't always translate. The crossed out classes are the ones I've already finished; IP indicates In Progress (or will be starting soon).

I *didn't* have the TESU course numbers in there so I went and hunted them down; thanks for that reminder because it was EXTREMELY helpful! I found out that my History class WON'T duplicate because TESU gave my Liberty course a different # than SL's course, so that means my Human Cultures requirement should be filled. And if not, it'll go into my Free Electives and I can use that spot for something else.

My Inter Med Busi Comp class came in as CIS-299 and went into my Business Electives. So I'm not sure if I should try and ask for it to be moved into my Computer Concepts slot or if I should just let it be and take the course through Study.com for the CIS102.

I'd leave it, but I have a class from Liberty that will be coming in and I'm not sure where they're going to put it because I can't find any simple equivalency in TESU's own courses. The course is Non-Profit Management and it is 400 level at Liberty. I'm not sure if they'll take it as an AoS Management or just Business Elective; in which case I need the CIS-299 to count as my Computer Concepts.

Thoughts? I'm not sure how it works when there's no simple equivalency at TESU for what courses come in as.

ETA: Actually I realized that I'm hoping for Non-Profit Management to go in as my AoS Elective. I guess I won't now until I resubmit my Liberty transcript...let's see if i can talk Liberty into sending the transcript for free since they didn't post final grades in time...

[ndelco]

Do you mean the CIS-299 went into the 6 credits of free electives at the very bottom, or it went into the 18 credits of AOS? You may not want to use it in the AOS since it's not UL. Of course, that will depend on the other courses you choose for AOS since you need to hit the required UL amount.

Edit: I just looked at your spreadsheet. If I am reading correctly, you have the Business in Society course completed through Liberty. If that is the case, I would definitely knock the MAN-372 from your AOS choices, unless you really want it. I am currently working on it and it is the longest, and most painful course that Study.com has. There are 4 large papers you need to write. Unless you absolutely want that specific course, get rid of it because it's not worth your time or annoyance level. There are many easier options from Study.com that can fill that slot.

Edit again: You have a few courses that are 300-course codes from Study.com. You can use 100 level courses that will come into TESU as UL and avoid unnecessary projects from Study.com. The only one I think you would need would be the Digital Marketing course and that project was an easy slideshow. You don't need to do Operation Management or the UL HR Management course. There are available options for management courses that will satisfy the UL requirement and are easier courses.

For example:
Business 105 Labor Relations LAS-321 - no project
Business 106 HR Management MAN-331 - no project
Business 107 Organizational Behavior MAN-311 - no project
Business 121 Intro to Entrepreneurship MAN-230 - no project (currently 2 credits but should soon be up to 3)
**Also if you needed to finish before this gets bumped to 3 credits, I currently have an HRM-299 course in my evaluation but I have no idea what course it was. It is only for 1 credit but it would pick up the slack from only getting 2 credits for the MAN-230 course. I believe this is an NFA course, or the Sophia team-building course and both were free.**
Business 309 Digital Marketing MAR-441 - easy project
And then I did ACC-201 from SL to fill my third requirement (ACC, MAN, MAR) and to avoid more projects. Study.com has said they are working on ACC-201/202 so if they finish them then you can use one of those and there would likely be no project as a 200-level course.

These are just some suggestions for you to make your plan a little easier. If all of these options had been available when I was doing my AOS, this is the path I would have taken.

[dfrecore]

You keep mentioning Business Electives, but unless you're in an older catalog (mine is 2014/15, and I do have business electives), there are no Business Electives. If you mean "Free Electives", that's completely different. Obviously you can use business courses in the Free Electives area, but there just aren't business electives in the current BSBA plan.

The current setup for the BSBA is Core courses, and then AOS courses (6 courses/18cr needed). The area below that is Free Electives (6cr). This is in no way related to the business area, and I wish they would be more clear on the website that it's Free Electives, and separate it from the Business Core/AOS better, or even put it up underneath the Gen Ed Electives.

[Gymfan15]

Do you mean the CIS-299 went into the 6 credits of free electives at the very bottom, or it went into the 18 credits of AOS? You may not want to use it in the AOS since it's not UL. Of course, that will depend on the other courses you choose for AOS since you need to hit the required UL amount.

Edit: I just looked at your spreadsheet. If I am reading correctly, you have the Business in Society course completed through Liberty. If that is the case, I would definitely knock the MAN-372 from your AOS choices, unless you really want it. I am currently working on it and it is the longest, and most painful course that Study.com has. There are 4 large papers you need to write. Unless you absolutely want that specific course, get rid of it because it's not worth your time or annoyance level. There are many easier options from Study.com that can fill that slot.

It went into the 6cr of Free Electives. I wasn't planning to use it in AoS; but in the Core Computers section. But if Study.com's CIS 102 course is easy enough, I might just do that and be done with it. I love computer stuff anyway. :p

I'll keep the MAN-372 under advisement...writing doesn't necessarily bother me but it depends on the subject. I need to go back and look at what other Study.com classes I could use to fulfill the AoS requirement; I know I'm not planning to take Advanced Financial Accounting but I really *don't* want to; Accounting is painful for me, lol. The 6cr I've already done of accounting were the longest and most work-intensive of my life.

You keep mentioning Business Electives, but unless you're in an older catalog (mine is 2014/15, and I do have business electives), there are no Business Electives. If you mean "Free Electives", that's completely different. Obviously you can use business courses in the Free Electives area, but there just aren't business electives in the current BSBA plan.

The current setup for the BSBA is Core courses, and then AOS courses (6 courses/18cr needed). The area below that is Free Electives (6cr). This is in no way related to the business area, and I wish they would be more clear on the website that it's Free Electives, and separate it from the Business Core/AOS better, or even put it up underneath the Gen Ed Electives.

It's the latter; you're right. I'm referring to the 6cr of Free Eelectives, not the 20cr of GE Electives. And by AoS Elective, I'm referring to one of the 6 AoS classes that are required that fit into of the categories (since I've already fulfilled the UL/AoS diversity requirement).

For the GE Electives, it can be pretty much anything that falls into the History/Social Sciences/Humanities/Science/Math/English categories, right? I now understand why that Vietnam War course is so popular, haha.

[ndelco]

I just edited my last post again. Please read the second edit as it contains available options from Study.com for your AOS.

[dfrecore]

It went into the 6cr of Free Electives. I wasn't planning to use it in AoS; but in the Core Computers section. But if Study.com's CIS 102 course is easy enough, I might just do that and be done with it. I love computer stuff anyway. :p If TESU didn't put it in the core under computer, then they may not think it applies there. But it's easy enough to ask. What did they give as the course equivalency there?

It's the latter; you're right. I'm referring to the 6cr of Free Eelectives, not the 20cr of GE Electives. And by AoS Elective, I'm referring to one of the 6 AoS classes that are required that fit into of the categories (since I've already fulfilled the UL/AoS diversity requirement). Confused again. There is no UL/AOS diversity requirement. There is a Diversity requirement up in the Gen Ed area, but it's not required to be an UL course. The AOS doesn't have a diversity requirement at all. There probably isn't a diversity-related course that will fit in the AOS at all. Wrong course equivalency.

For the GE Electives, it can be pretty much anything that falls into the History/Social Sciences/Humanities/Science/Math/English categories, right? Yes

Read my replies above in red.

[Gymfan15]

^^ By diversity I meant the fact that I have to have classes in 3/4 of the AoS areas...initially I was having difficulty doing that but now I'm fine, I'm pretty sure. I've been able to find classes in ALL areas so I can be more picky with what I want to do.

TESU didn't give me a course equivalency for what course # I need to fulfill my Computers requirement; under the header it says "C: Computers 3 SH (Not started)
Choose an Introduction course in: Information Systems; Computer Literacy; Computing w/applications such as Word Processing, Spreadsh eets, Databases.
For TESU course options, please contact an Advisor "

I would have thought Computing w/applications such as Word Processing, Spreadsheets, Databases would have covered my Liberty class because that was precisely what I did; it was Microsoft Excel, Word, Powerpoint and Access. \

@ndelcollo; thanks for that info! I will add that to my data and use that to help make decisions when it's time to take those classes. I'm definitely really appreciative of any practical advisement about classes from people who have taken them!

[dfrecore]

^^ By diversity I meant the fact that I have to have classes in 3/4 of the AoS areas...initially I was having difficulty doing that but now I'm fine, I'm pretty sure. I've been able to find classes in ALL areas so I can be more picky with what I want to do. Ok, I get it now.

TESU didn't give me a course equivalency for what course # I need to fulfill my Computers requirement; under the header it says "C: Computers 3 SH (Not started)
Choose an Introduction course in: Information Systems; Computer Literacy; Computing w/applications such as Word Processing, Spreadsh eets, Databases.
For TESU course options, please contact an Advisor " What I mean was, in your eval, what did TESU give as the course number for the computer course you took? It would be something like CAP-### or CIS-### or COS-###. Not the course number that Liberty called it, but the course number that TESU called it.

I would have thought Computing w/applications such as Word Processing, Spreadsheets, Databases would have covered my Liberty class because that was precisely what I did; it was Microsoft Excel, Word, Powerpoint and Access. \ Definitely not. TESU wants a general course about computers, rather than applications. I'm guessing that they gave the course a CAP prefix (?), and then stuck it down in Free Electives for this reason.

@ndelcollo; thanks for that info! I will add that to my data and use that to help make decisions when it's time to take those classes. I'm definitely really appreciative of any practical advisement about classes from people who have taken them!

Getting it now. It might have been easier to post your eval on here for us, that normally makes it easier to figure out.

[Gymfan15]

^^ They gave it CIS-299.

I thought about posting the eval originally but the formatting gets so messed up in the transfer...ah well. Here it is for reference. The only thing that has been evaluated is *most* of my Liberty transcript; they don't have any of my UExcel, SL or S.C credit yet. And it's missing one class from Liberty so this is not a complete list of the classes I've completed. I've completed 51cr so far; adding 6 more next week and will keep on a pace of 3cr or more a week until I finish.

1: BSBA General Education (60 SH) (In progress)
SH Earned: 9 Complete all 6 subrequirements:

A: IntellecSkills 15 SH (Not started)
For TESU course options, go to Intellectual and Practical Skills Course s

SH Earned: 0

ENC-101 3 SH *must earn a grade of C/CR or better (Not started)
English Composition I
Source Course Title Term Grade SH TESU # Notes
______ _______________ _________________________ __________ _______ _______ __________
3 credits needed
ENC-102 3 SH *must earn a grade of C/CR or better (Not started)
English Composition II
______ _______________ _________________________ __________ _______ _______ __________
3 credits needed
Oral Communication 3 SH (Not started)
______ _______________ _________________________ __________ _______ _______ __________
3 credits needed
MAT121 or MAT-119 3 SH (Not started)
College Algebra or Quantitative Business Analysis (DEGREE REQUIREMENT)
______ _______________ _________________________ __________ _______ _______ __________
3 credits needed
Information Literacy 3 SH (Not started)
______ _______________ _________________________ __________ _______ _______ __________
3 credits needed
B: Civic Learning 9 SH (Not started)
For TESU course options, go to Civic and Global Leadership Courses

SH Earned: 0

Diversity 3 SH (Not started)
Source Course Title Term Grade SH TESU # Notes
______ _______________ _________________________ __________ _______ _______ __________
3 credits needed
Ethics 3 SH (Not started)
______ _______________ _________________________ __________ _______ _______ __________
3 credits needed
Civic Engagement 3 SH (Not started)
______ _______________ _________________________ __________ _______ _______ __________
3 credits needed
C: Human Cultures 9 SH (In progress)
For TESU course options, go to Knowledge of Human Cultures Courses
Humanities and/or Social Sciences
SH Earned: 6
Required: 9
Remaining: 3
Source Course Title Term Grade SH TESU # Notes
1 HIST101 American History Orientation 12/01/15 CR 3.00 HIS-199
*TE
1 APOL104 Contemporary Worldviews 12/01/16 A 3.00 REL-199
*TE
______ _______________ _________________________ __________ _______ _______ __________
3 credits needed
D: Natural World 4 SH (In progress)
For TESU course options, go to Understanding Physical and Natural World Courses
Source Course Title Term Grade SH TESU # Notes
1 BIOL101 Principles of Biology 05/01/16 A 3.00 BIO-111
*TE
______ _______________ _________________________ __________ _______ _______ __________
1 credit needed
E: Mathematics 3 SH (Not started)
For TESU course options, go to BUS 210 Quantit ative Methods for Decision Makers

or STA-201 Principles of Statistics
(DEGREE REQUIREMENT)
Source Course Title Term Grade SH TESU # Notes
______ _______________ _________________________ __________ _______ _______ __________
3 credits needed
F: GE Electives (In progress)
For TESU course options, go to TES-100 Corne rstone: Lifelong Learning Strategies Course

and General Education Elective Courses

SH Earned: 0

TES-100 1 SH (Waived)
!! Exception The TES-100 Cornerstone: Lifelong Learning Strategies course is not required for you as an individual degree requirement because you meet the established waiver criteria; you are a corporate choice partner student, or have 104 or more credits at application. You may still wish to take this course, which will fulfill 1 semester hour of general education elective requirement.
Cornerstone: Lifelong Learning Strategies
Additional General Education Electives 19 SH (Not started)
!! Exception Adjusted due to TES-100 waiver. 20 SH required.
______ _______________ _________________________ __________ _______ _______ __________
3 credits needed
______ _______________ _________________________ __________ _______ _______ __________
3 credits needed
______ _______________ _________________________ __________ _______ _______ __________
3 credits needed
______ _______________ _________________________ __________ _______ _______ __________
3 credits needed
______ _______________ _________________________ __________ _______ _______ __________
3 credits needed
______ _______________ _________________________ __________ _______ _______ __________
3 credits needed
______ _______________ _________________________ __________ _______ _______ __________
2 credits needed

2: Core (36SH) (In progress)
SH Earned: 15 Complete all 10 subrequirements:

A: Accounting 6 SH (Complete)
For TESU course options, go to ACC-101 Princi ples of Financial Accounting

AND AC C-102 Principles of Managerial Accounting

SH Earned: 6

Group 1 (Complete)
SH Earned: 6
Source Course Title Term Grade SH TESU # Notes
1 ACCT212 Principles of Acct II 05/01/16 A 3.00 ACC-102
*TE
1 ACCT211 Prin of Accounting I 12/01/15 A 3.00 ACC-101
*TE
B: Business Law 3 SH (Not started)
For TESU course options, go to LAW-201 Busi ness Law
Source Course Title Term Grade SH TESU # Notes
______ _______________ _________________________ __________ _______ _______ __________
3 credits needed
C: Computers 3 SH (Not started)
Choose an Introduction course in: Information Systems; Computer Literacy; Computing w/applications such as Word Processing, Spreadsh eets, Databases.
For TESU course options, please contact an Advisor
Source Course Title Term Grade SH TESU # Notes
______ _______________ _________________________ __________ _______ _______ __________
3 credits needed
D: Finance 3 SH (Not started)
For TESU course options, go to FIN-301 Prin ciples of Finance
Source Course Title Term Grade SH TESU # Notes
______ _______________ _________________________ __________ _______ _______ __________
3 credits needed
E: Management 3 SH (Not started)
For TESU course options, go to MAN-301 Prin ciples of Management
Source Course Title Term Grade SH TESU # Notes
______ _______________ _________________________ __________ _______ _______ __________
3 credits needed
F: Marketing 3 SH (Not started)
For TESU course options, go to MAR-301 Intr oduction to Marketing
Source Course Title Term Grade SH TESU # Notes
______ _______________ _________________________ __________ _______ _______ __________
3 credits needed
G: Business/Society 3SH (Complete)
Topics can include: International Management, Business in Society,International Marketing, and International Business.
For TESU course options, go to MAN-372 International Manage ment

OR BUS-311 Business in Society
Source Course Title Term Grade SH TESU # Notes
1 BUSI303 International Business 12/01/16 A 3.00 MAN-371
*TE
H: Economics 6 SH (In progress)
For TESU course options, go to ECO-111 Macroe conomics

AND ECO-112 Microeconomics< /a>

SH Earned: 3

Group 1 (Not started)
Source Course Title Term Grade SH TESU # Notes
______ _______________ _________________________ __________ _______ _______ __________
3 credits needed
Group 2 (Complete)
1 ECON213 Principles of Microeconomics 05/01/16 A 3.00 ECO-112
*TE
I: Communications 3 SH (Not started)
For TESU course options, go to MAN-373 Manageri al Communications
Source Course Title Term Grade SH TESU # Notes
______ _______________ _________________________ __________ _______ _______ __________
3 credits needed
J: Capstone 3 SH (Pending completion of unfinished activity)
*This Capstone course must be taken at Thomas Edison State University or via an approved Thomas Edison State University Academic Pro gram Review.
For TESU course options, go to BUS-421 Business Administration Capstone
Source Course Title Term Grade SH TESU # Notes
2 BUS-421 Business Administration Capsto 2017JUN ___ ( 3.00)
*PR

3: General Mngt (18SH: 12SH must be upper level) (Not started)
SH Earned: 0 GPA Achieved/Needed: none / 2.000 Complete both subrequirements:

A: GMS Required 9 SH (Not started)
*must earn grades of C/CR or better
Complete three courses (one course from three of the following four areas)

Accounting

Finance

Management

Marketing

**At least 12 semester hours within the ent ire Specialization must be at the 300/400 level.

SH Earned: 0

Group 1 (Not started)
Source Course Title Term Grade SH TESU # Notes
______ _______________ _________________________ __________ _______ _______ __________
3 credits
Group 2 (Not started)
______ _______________ _________________________ __________ _______ _______ __________
3 credits
Group 3 (Not started)
______ _______________ _________________________ __________ _______ _______ __________
3 credits
B: GMS Elective Area (Not started)
*must earn grades of C/CR or better
Complete 9 more Semester Hours (SH) from any assortment of the areas below.

Accounting

Finance

Management

Marketing

**At least 12 semester hours within the entire Sp ecialization must be at the 300/400 level.

SH Earned: 0

Group 1 (Not started)
Source Course Title Term Grade SH TESU # Notes
______ _______________ _________________________ __________ _______ _______ __________
3 credits needed
Group 2 (Not started)
______ _______________ _________________________ __________ _______ _______ __________
3 credits needed
______ _______________ _________________________ __________ _______ _______ __________
3 credits needed

4: Electives (6sh) (Complete)

For TESU course options, go to Elective Courses (business related courses preferred)
SH Earned: 6
Source Course Title Term Grade SH TESU # Notes
1 BUSI201 Intermed Business Comp Appl 05/01/16 A 3.00 CIS-299
*TE
1 INFT101 Instructional Tech for Online 12/01/15 A 3.00 FEL-101
*TE