MSM vs MBA vs other

[FireMedic_Philosopher]

I would recommend the UIUC MSM.

Three reasons

First the college is well known.
Second the price.
Third, it will stack into the iMBA. But if you just enroll in the MBA you only get one degree in four years.

Doing the MSM first, you get two UIUC degrees for the same price.

[Pats20]

I would recommend the UIUC MSM.

Three reasons

First the college is well known.
Second the price.
Third, it will stack into the iMBA. But if you just enroll in the MBA you only get one degree in four years.

Doing the MSM first, you get two UIUC degrees for the same price.

Yes I agree. Very solid points

[Hotdogman1]

I have a coworker that got 3 UIUC degrees. MSM, MBA, and the Masters of accounting. She said she had to take 4 extra courses to make that work but apparently its a thing.

[Pats20]

That would be a great combination.

[FireMedic_Philosopher]

I have a coworker that got 3 UIUC degrees. MSM, MBA, and the Masters of accounting. She said she had to take 4 extra courses to make that work but apparently its a thing.

Yes,  both the MSM and Grad Cert in Accounting are designed to stack into the IMBA.

Guessing that turning the cert into another masters is probably where those 4 extra classes went.

[Hotdogman1]

UIUC is a decent program. You don't have to pay for books, but there is an Article package you have to purchase for around $12 per course. There's also the content available on Coursera if you want to see what the program is like. "Coursera goes along with the class so you don’t need to complete it in advance."

I spoke to 4 iMBA/MSM graduates working for Fortune 100 companies when I was looking into the program last year (I just contacted 5 random people on LinkedIn and 4 responded). The gist was while they all agreed it was a good program with a great name, it didn't do much to progress their careers, but it eliminated the disadvantage of not having a masters during promotion time. 3 of them used tuition reimbursement benefits and 1 got the Scholarship, but only one of them would have paid full cost for the program. However, UIUC grads are everywhere: they each had several coworkers/managers that were UIUC grads and when I was talking with my coworker about the school, my own manager overheard and shared his experiences with the iMBA.

[Kjnova]

What I keep trying to figure out, but it's so hard to get out of your own head, is whether there is much value for someone mid-career to get something like a UIUC master's vs something like UMPI MAOL. The best I can figure out, the answer is "probably not, but maybe." If it put me over the top for being hired one time or being promoted one time, it would be worth it, but it's so hard to predict as it's just going to come down to individual circumstances and the opinion of maybe one individual hiring manager etc. But that's what I'm trying to work through right now. I have a little time, I don't need to let UMPI know for about three weeks, and I won't get the "next steps" email from UIUC for a few more days.

[Duneranger]

What I keep trying to figure out, but it's so hard to get out of your own head, is whether there is much value for someone mid-career to get something like a UIUC master's vs something like UMPI MAOL. The best I can figure out, the answer is "probably not, but maybe." If it put me over the top for being hired one time or being promoted one time, it would be worth it, but it's so hard to predict as it's just going to come down to individual circumstances and the opinion of maybe one individual hiring manager etc. But that's what I'm trying to work through right now. I have a little time, I don't need to let UMPI know for about three weeks, and I won't get the "next steps" email from UIUC for a few more days.

I always looked at an "organizational leadership" degree like a low value degree. It's a vague soft skill field. We used to joke in the military that they were the check-the-box degrees people used to commission.

Between the two, I would do UI 100%. I also live in IL

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UIUC is a decent program. You don't have to pay for books, but there is an Article package you have to purchase for around $12 per course. There's also the content available on Coursera if you want to see what the program is like. "Coursera goes along with the class so you don’t need to complete it in advance."

I spoke to 4 iMBA/MSM graduates working for Fortune 100 companies when I was looking into the program last year (I just contacted 5 random people on LinkedIn and 4 responded). The gist was while they all agreed it was a good program with a great name, it didn't do much to progress their careers, but it eliminated the disadvantage of not having a masters during promotion time. 3 of them used tuition reimbursement benefits and 1 got the Scholarship, but only one of them would have paid full cost for the program. However, UIUC grads are everywhere: they each had several coworkers/managers that were UIUC grads and when I was talking with my coworker about the school, my own manager overheard and shared his experiences with the iMBA.

12 dollars is literally a non factor. It's not even a blip on the radar. My last grad degree had a book cost which was 3000...

[Pats20]

What I keep trying to figure out, but it's so hard to get out of your own head, is whether there is much value for someone mid-career to get something like a UIUC master's vs something like UMPI MAOL. The best I can figure out, the answer is "probably not, but maybe." If it put me over the top for being hired one time or being promoted one time, it would be worth it, but it's so hard to predict as it's just going to come down to individual circumstances and the opinion of maybe one individual hiring manager etc. But that's what I'm trying to work through right now. I have a little time, I don't need to let UMPI know for about three weeks, and I won't get the "next steps" email from UIUC for a few more days.

I always looked at an "organizational leadership" degree like a low value degree. It's a vague soft skill field. We used to joke in the military that they were the check-the-box degrees people used to commission.

Between the two, I would do UI 100%. I also live in IL

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UIUC is a decent program. You don't have to pay for books, but there is an Article package you have to purchase for around $12 per course. There's also the content available on Coursera if you want to see what the program is like. "Coursera goes along with the class so you don’t need to complete it in advance."

I spoke to 4 iMBA/MSM graduates working for Fortune 100 companies when I was looking into the program last year (I just contacted 5 random people on LinkedIn and 4 responded). The gist was while they all agreed it was a good program with a great name, it didn't do much to progress their careers, but it eliminated the disadvantage of not having a masters during promotion time. 3 of them used tuition reimbursement benefits and 1 got the Scholarship, but only one of them would have paid full cost for the program. However, UIUC grads are everywhere: they each had several coworkers/managers that were UIUC grads and when I was talking with my coworker about the school, my own manager overheard and shared his experiences with the iMBA.

12 dollars is literally a non factor. It's not even a blip on the radar. My last grad degree had a book cost which was 3000...

It may be the case, But I think there’s a lot of terminology like “leadership”, “teams” and “team building”, “coaching and training”, “wins and losses” , “hits and misses” , far more than I ever have seen or heard before. It’s coming from somewhere. I don’t think It’s as low value as it used to be.

[Kjnova]

I assume an MSM and a MAOL are conceptually extremely similar (maybe not these two specific programs), just one says "science" and "management" and the other says "arts" and "leadership." Though, part of the benefit of the MSM in this case is that it stacks with the MBA, if I do that later.