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(01-30-2021, 01:07 PM)ss20ts Wrote: Before getting excited about UofP, read up on them on here. Many people have tried it and aren't fond of it for a variety of reasons. I've worked in HR and no way would I even interview someone who has a degree from a place called University of the People. It sounds like a fake school. It's national accredited and quite honestly, I'm not even sure how they got that far. Their professors are volunteers not on staff. Students grade each other's assignments.
If you want an MBA, then you need to put the time into a quality MBA program. Why discount WGU? Plenty of people have families, jobs, and lives and still complete their master's degree at WGU in a year which is 2 terms. It's called making the time and setting a schedule which is what you have to do for any degree at any school.
LSU Shreveport has an MBA program for under $13,000. Lots of schools have programs like this, you just have to do the research. Far more people have heard of LSU and WGU than UofP. LSA and WGU are also regionally accredited. The accreditation may be a factor depending where you live and what jobs you're looking for now and in the future. Yes, there are actually jobs out there where accreditation matters. Like it or not, disagree or not, that's how it is.
I get that people outside the know would give it a quick dismissal based on name alone, but I would hope that wouldn't happen if the receiver knows it's a legitimately accredited school, because there are some RA names out there too that sound ridiculous but are otherwise decent schools (see Goucher, pronounced "GOW-CHUR").
Just a note: Instructors there do grade some assignments, like the finals in capstone's for example. They also partly grade and have to approve class discussion peer grades. Where the big problem is and I agree with you on, is where the general papers are graded by peers. This leads to all kinds of grading disputes. If you're a person that likes to debate a lot, this might be a fun experience, but if you would rather not have to do that on nearly every paper you write because somebody graded you improperly since they don't speak English well and don't fully understand what you're saying, or because they don't like you and have a vendetta, that won't be fun at all.
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(01-30-2021, 03:05 AM)StoicJ Wrote: Hellenic American University MBA. $3000 (plus books and probably some other fees), if you apply in the next 24 hours or so : D
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I am working on an ENEB MBA. A few other folks here have done it or are in the process. Under $300.
UT Permian Basin has an MBA you can do online, for about $12500. It was top of my list (and under $10k) when I was last looking at u.S.A. programs. I study at the Hellenic American University. Regular fees are €12000. $3000 it’s an offer for this season. Hellenic American University is accredited by the New England Commission of Higher Education (NECHE).It’s the body the provides accreditation to Harvard and MIT and any other institution in the North East. It’s very well equipped as a university. It has very well educated and experienced professors. It’s one time chance. Do not miss it.
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(01-29-2021, 03:36 PM)theedude Wrote: I have been looking at low cost (per course hour) online MBA programs either in US or abroad and have come up with a few things. I'm excluding WGU and others from the list, because as someone that would be part time due to family/work they really aren't cheaper. This is what I have come up with but want to see what others have found:
University of the People (no tuition, but pay for application & exams):
www.uopeople.edu
California Coast University ($230 per credit hour, $690 per course):
www.calcoast.edu
Manipal University Jaipur, India ($412 per semester, $1647 for full MBA):
www.onlinemanipal.com
Anybody able to find anything else? Or that allows people to take individual courses for those of us that go at a slow pace or need professional development?
If you want to go to Europe the only title you can be relative sure will be accepted without problem is Manipal U. in my opinion.
National accreditation can be an issue in Europe. Which does not mean in any way that I put in doubt they quality, but bureaucracy and Cia. are still around.
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(01-30-2021, 05:16 PM)eLearner Wrote: (01-30-2021, 01:07 PM)ss20ts Wrote: Before getting excited about UofP, read up on them on here. Many people have tried it and aren't fond of it for a variety of reasons. I've worked in HR and no way would I even interview someone who has a degree from a place called University of the People. It sounds like a fake school. It's national accredited and quite honestly, I'm not even sure how they got that far. Their professors are volunteers not on staff. Students grade each other's assignments.
If you want an MBA, then you need to put the time into a quality MBA program. Why discount WGU? Plenty of people have families, jobs, and lives and still complete their master's degree at WGU in a year which is 2 terms. It's called making the time and setting a schedule which is what you have to do for any degree at any school.
LSU Shreveport has an MBA program for under $13,000. Lots of schools have programs like this, you just have to do the research. Far more people have heard of LSU and WGU than UofP. LSA and WGU are also regionally accredited. The accreditation may be a factor depending where you live and what jobs you're looking for now and in the future. Yes, there are actually jobs out there where accreditation matters. Like it or not, disagree or not, that's how it is.
I get that people outside the know would give it a quick dismissal based on name alone, but I would hope that wouldn't happen if the receiver knows it's a legitimately accredited school, because there are some RA names out there too that sound ridiculous but are otherwise decent schools (see Goucher, pronounced "GOW-CHUR").
Just a note: Instructors there do grade some assignments, like the finals in capstone's for example. They also partly grade and have to approve class discussion peer grades. Where the big problem is and I agree with you on, is where the general papers are graded by peers. This leads to all kinds of grading disputes. If you're a person that likes to debate a lot, this might be a fun experience, but if you would rather not have to do that on nearly every paper you write because somebody graded you improperly since they don't speak English well and don't fully understand what you're saying, or because they don't like you and have a vendetta, that won't be fun at all.
"University of the People" and "Goucher" aren't really comparable in the Ridiculous School Name stakes. UoP is more like "The School of Hard Knocks" or "The University of Life." The things people who didn't go to college put under "Education" on their Facebook profile. It was a stupid idea to give it this name. Your average hiring manager is going to take one look at it, shake their head, and move on to the next application. They're not going to bother researching it. As it is, they're bypassing University of Phoenix, DeVry, ITT, Ashford, etc. "University of the People" is one of those things that will be shared around the office with an LOL emoji.
If the people running UoP had any brains (or marketing smarts) AT ALL, they would change it. Recruiters and hiring managers spend mere seconds perusing a CV for suitability, and that name will inevitably send it to the trash bin.
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(01-31-2021, 09:48 AM)monchevy Wrote: "University of the People" and "Goucher" aren't really comparable in the Ridiculous School Name stakes. UoP is more like "The School of Hard Knocks" or "The University of Life." The things people who didn't go to college put under "Education" on their Facebook profile. It was a stupid idea to give it this name. Your average hiring manager is going to take one look at it, shake their head, and move on to the next application. They're not going to bother researching it. As it is, they're bypassing University of Phoenix, DeVry, ITT, Ashford, etc. "University of the People" is one of those things that will be shared around the office with an LOL emoji.
If the people running UoP had any brains (or marketing smarts) AT ALL, they would change it. Recruiters and hiring managers spend mere seconds perusing a CV for suitability, and that name will inevitably send it to the trash bin.
Hahahaha! Wow, lol! Tell us how you REALLY feel!
University of the People isn't the greatest name, I agree. I have heard some refer to it in the same vein as a school from a Communist country, lol. Goucher is pretty ugly though, but I'll say it sounds way worse being spoken than it looks when it's just on paper.
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There's a whole thread about bad-sounding RA institution names here: https://www.degreeinfo.com/index.php?thr...put.18076/
One of the first posts mentions both Defiance College and also University of Maryland University College. Those sound made up! At least as bad as UoPeople.
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(01-31-2021, 10:42 AM)eLearner Wrote: (01-31-2021, 09:48 AM)monchevy Wrote: "University of the People" and "Goucher" aren't really comparable in the Ridiculous School Name stakes. UoP is more like "The School of Hard Knocks" or "The University of Life." The things people who didn't go to college put under "Education" on their Facebook profile. It was a stupid idea to give it this name. Your average hiring manager is going to take one look at it, shake their head, and move on to the next application. They're not going to bother researching it. As it is, they're bypassing University of Phoenix, DeVry, ITT, Ashford, etc. "University of the People" is one of those things that will be shared around the office with an LOL emoji.
If the people running UoP had any brains (or marketing smarts) AT ALL, they would change it. Recruiters and hiring managers spend mere seconds perusing a CV for suitability, and that name will inevitably send it to the trash bin.
Hahahaha! Wow, lol! Tell us how you REALLY feel!
University of the People isn't the greatest name, I agree. I have heard some refer to it in the same vein as a school from a Communist country, lol. Goucher is pretty ugly though, but I'll say it sounds way worse being spoken than it looks when it's just on paper.
I'm the last person to criticize people who didn't go to college... I'm only just starting out myself! I just was giving an example of where you usually find fake college names that sound like University of the People.
(01-31-2021, 10:52 AM)rachel83az Wrote: There's a whole thread about bad-sounding RA institution names here: https://www.degreeinfo.com/index.php?thr...put.18076/
One of the first posts mentions both Defiance College and also University of Maryland University College. Those sound made up! At least as bad as UoPeople.
American College of Education always cracks me up. It sounds like a diploma mill run by overseas scammers who think it's the most official-sounding name imaginable.
I also dislike colleges with people names. We used to have one in NYC called "Audrey Cohen College." Come on. Who'd want that on their CV? They finally wised up and changed it to "Metropolitan College of New York," which isn't great, but still an improvement.
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(01-31-2021, 11:35 AM)monchevy Wrote:
I also dislike colleges with people names. We used to have one in NYC called "Audrey Cohen College." Come on. Who'd want that on their CV? They finally wised up and changed it to "Metropolitan College of New York," which isn't great, but still an improvement.
The Massachusetts School of Professional Psychology just changed it's name to William James College. The school itself has a pretty good reputation, at least locally, and so I'm not sure I understand why they changed the name. It's questionable whether it's an improvement. BTW, they have a little bunch of psychology-based Masters degrees online.
https://www.williamjames.edu/academics/o...ograms.cfm
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(01-31-2021, 09:48 AM)monchevy Wrote: "University of the People" and "Goucher" aren't really comparable in the Ridiculous School Name stakes. UoP is more like "The School of Hard Knocks" or "The University of Life."
Some rando on the sister board had a similar thought: https://www.degreeinfo.com/index.php?thr...ost-543639. Not sure who they are, but I've heard they know a thing or two about hiring.
Really, if anyone is genuinely concerned about how hiring managers are going to view your degree - ask them! Some of the advice in this thread isn't great (and I can tell who has never been a hiring manager by their far-too-involved research for CCU, what on earth are you all doing reading multiple forum posts and going to PAGE FIVE of google results???).
If you have a hiring manager for a friend, they'll probably help you for free, but frankly, paying one for a brief review of your resume would be well worth the expense (and we always appreciate being recompensed for our insight). Even 10 or 15 minutes of their time can help you to understand the realities of hiring, and how irrational it can be. Call a few recruitment agencies (if you're prepared for the ugly side), or ask your friends if they know anyone - guaranteed someone will know at least a few professionals who can provide insight.
No hiring manager is the same, but in general, hiring managers are simultaneously disinterested and overinvested in hiring, which has a lot of impacts on your chances of moving forward - rightly or wrongly. It's both better and worse than you think, but almost definitely far less fair than you'd like.
But seriously, leave UotP off your resume. It looks ridiculous.
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