Looking for advise/help to get me started.

[JJ65]

I have been thinking about starting my degree with one of the big three for years but never could make time. Recent job upsets have given me time so I better take the plunge.

I have BM credits from many years ago and am not sure if I am interpreting the credits correctly.

Can I expect this to equate to 20 credits as listed below?

Eastern Washington University 1985 Fall and Winter Semesters
Class Name -------------- QTR Hours -----Grade -----Grade Points
GLG 100 -- Principles of Geology ---- 4 ------- 3.3 ---- 13.2
PS 100 -- Intro to Psycology -------4 ------- 2.5 ---- 10.0
THR 202 -- Intro to Theatre ---------4 ------- 2.8 -----11.2
SOC 101 -- Intro to Sociology -------4 ------- 3.0 -----12.0
HIS 110 -- American Experience ----4---------1.6------6.4

I would like to complete a BSBA or General Business or the like as quickly as possible utilizing CLEP,DSST,SL. Which of the Big 3 are best suited to allow this? I keep leaning to EC but see so many others that went with TESC. It is very confusing. I really like the way Lawrey from BAIN4WEEKS described the BA plan with EC but this appears to be much outdated now. Is there a current template that anyone has or knows of to accomplish this?
Thanks in advance as I know there are very helpful members here.

Regards,

[sanantone]

You can still completely test out of a BSBA at TESC.

http://www.degreeforum.net/excelsior-tho...grees.html

[cooperalex2004]

Here are the TESC course codes for you. Note that the credits transfer in as semester credits.

Eastern Washington University 1985 Fall and Winter Semesters
Class Name -------------- QTR Hours -----Grade -----Grade Points
GLG 100 -- Principles of Geology ---- 4 ------- 3.3 ---- 13.2
GEO-101 Intro to Geology - 2.66 Credits in Natural Sciences

PS 100 -- Intro to Psycology -------4 ------- 2.5 ---- 10.0
PSY-101 Intro to Psychology - 2.66 Credits in Social Sciences

THR 202 -- Intro to Theatre ---------4 ------- 2.8 -----11.2
THA-101 Intro to Theater - 2.66 Credits in Humanities

SOC 101 -- Intro to Sociology -------4 ------- 3.0 -----12.0
SOC-101 Intro to Sociology - 2.66 Credits in Social Sciences

HIS 110 -- American Experience ----4---------1.6------6.4
HIS-199 Generic 100 Level History Course (course is not offered or listed in PLA catalog) - 2.66 Credits in Social Sciences

No matter your degree you'll these credits will fit into the General Education Area of the degree plan. TESC has a "currency" policy for courses over 10 years but it is supposed to apply to Business or Technical credits so I wouldn't expect any issues with that.

In the end you have:
2.66 in Natural Sciences
7.98 in Social Sciences
2.66 in Humanities

Regardless of the degree, you are probably best off starting with a test out (or course) for the English Composition requirement. Once you pick a school the members of this site can provide very helpful specifics on where to get started. You don't have any unusual credits so once you pick a school your credits should all be fine.

[JJ65]

I am not quite understanding the credit transfer you listed below. If my GEO-101 "Principles of Geo" was a 4 credit course how does that equate to 2.66 credits? If the TESC course PSY-101 "Intro to Psyc" is 3 Credits and you say my PS-100 counts as 2.66 credits what happens to the .33 remaining credits? Do I get credit for the course or still need additional credits to makeup the difference?


Also, I really can't figure out which is going to be more cost effective for me to go with TESC or ECE? My goal will be to take as many CLEP,DSST,SL, etc tests and avoid what I believe to be the higher cost ECE test costs/classes.
Thanks,

Here are the TESC course codes for you. Note that the credits transfer in as semester credits.

Eastern Washington University 1985 Fall and Winter Semesters
Class Name -------------- QTR Hours -----Grade -----Grade Points
GLG 100 -- Principles of Geology ---- 4 ------- 3.3 ---- 13.2
GEO-101 Intro to Geology - 2.66 Credits in Natural Sciences

PS 100 -- Intro to Psycology -------4 ------- 2.5 ---- 10.0
PSY-101 Intro to Psychology - 2.66 Credits in Social Sciences

THR 202 -- Intro to Theatre ---------4 ------- 2.8 -----11.2
THA-101 Intro to Theater - 2.66 Credits in Humanities

SOC 101 -- Intro to Sociology -------4 ------- 3.0 -----12.0
SOC-101 Intro to Sociology - 2.66 Credits in Social Sciences

HIS 110 -- American Experience ----4---------1.6------6.4
HIS-199 Generic 100 Level History Course (course is not offered or listed in PLA catalog) - 2.66 Credits in Social Sciences

No matter your degree you'll these credits will fit into the General Education Area of the degree plan. TESC has a "currency" policy for courses over 10 years but it is supposed to apply to Business or Technical credits so I wouldn't expect any issues with that.

In the end you have:
2.66 in Natural Sciences
7.98 in Social Sciences
2.66 in Humanities

Regardless of the degree, you are probably best off starting with a test out (or course) for the English Composition requirement. Once you pick a school the members of this site can provide very helpful specifics on where to get started. You don't have any unusual credits so once you pick a school your credits should all be fine.

[rebel100]

I am not quite understanding the credit transfer you listed below. If my GEO-101 "Principles of Geo" was a 4 credit course how does that equate to 2.66 credits? If the TESC course PSY-101 "Intro to Psyc" is 3 Credits and you say my PS-100 counts as 2.66 credits what happens to the .33 remaining credits? Do I get credit for the course or still need additional credits to makeup the difference?


Also, I really can't figure out which is going to be more cost effective for me to go with TESC or ECE? My goal will be to take as many CLEP,DSST,SL, etc tests and avoid what I believe to be the higher cost ECE test costs/classes.
Thanks,

Quarter hours are reflected in your OP. There are still schools on the 1/4 hour system, but more common today is the semester hour system. They simply don't usually transfer in hour for hour (though COSC took mine without any problem, class for class). Here is a chart https://business.vancouver.wsu.edu/sites...Sheet1.pdf It's not really much of a factor for you though, just not enough credits to spend time worrying about it...it's still a good start.

For your stated goal I think TESC is your best bet. There are several degree plans over on the wiki that you can use as a guide: TESC Degree Plans - Degree Forum Wiki The biggest cost benefit you will see is that you can use free FEMA for your free electives. EC charges for them. TESC also accepts more CLEP/DSST/SL at the Upper level for the BSBA than either EC or COSC. If starting from around 12 credits I would choose TESC hands down, no question.

[cooperalex2004]

I am not quite understanding the credit transfer you listed below. If my GEO-101 "Principles of Geo" was a 4 credit course how does that equate to 2.66 credits? If the TESC course PSY-101 "Intro to Psyc" is 3 Credits and you say my PS-100 counts as 2.66 credits what happens to the .33 remaining credits? Do I get credit for the course or still need additional credits to makeup the difference?


Also, I really can't figure out which is going to be more cost effective for me to go with TESC or ECE? My goal will be to take as many CLEP,DSST,SL, etc tests and avoid what I believe to be the higher cost ECE test costs/classes.
Thanks,

My understanding is that EC is cheaper, but I went the TESC route. As for your credits, since you have quarter credits they translate to semester credits before they can be used. 4 quarter credits = 2.66 semester credits. You basically have a bad situation here where most schools I've seen now use the semester hours system and your credits do transfer but don't fit together nicely. Basically when you fill in the rest of your credits, the converted quarter hours do apply but in a case like your Geology course it isn't enough to fill in the 3 credit requirement. What you'd end up doing is filling those areas in with tests or new courses, and then whatever is left over would fill in as needed. Most people don't have quarter hours floating around on here so the advice on that is kind of lacking, as for your degree you can use them, they just are kind of a pain to calculate.

Here is an example of what I mean, lets say you want to do the business degree, here is an example of how you can use your credits to fit in:

ENGLISH COMP (6)- ENC-101, ENC-102 - Fill with CLEP College Composition, or take the course somewhere
HUMANITIES (12) -
---Managerial Business Comm (3, mandatory)
---Other Humanities Electives (9), pick tests, courses, or PLA's to fill in
SOCIAL SCIENCES (12) -
---Macro Econ (3, mandatory)
---Micro Econ (3, mandatory)
---Intro to Psychology (2.66 credits)
---Intro to Sociology (2.66 credits)
---History Elective HIS-199 (.68 credits [partial credit])
NATSCI/MATH (9)
---Precalc (3, mandatory)
---Stats (3, mandatory)
---Intro to Computing (3, DSST Exam) - You can use any non-mathematics nat sci area including computer science!
GENERAL ED ELECTIVES (21)
---History Elective HIS-199 (1.98 credits [left over from above])
---Intro to Theater (2.66 credits)
---Intro to Geology (2.66 credits)
---13.7 more credits needed in general ed elective areas

You've got some usable credits, they just are kind of mess once they translate into semester hours. An "extra" credits will rollover to the general ed elective area (as see with HIS-199). To answer your other question, a 2.66 credit course will not satisfy a 3 credit requirement so you'll have take some other courses or exams. My only other thought is that you could decided to not transfer those credits in and instead test out of related exams. You could test of Natural Sciences (6 credits), Psych (3 credits), Sociology (3 credits), and History I & II (total 6 credits) and be far ahead on credits. Just note that credits will conflict (duplicate) if you try to test out after bringing those old credits over. You've got a start, you need to pick a school (get some advice from an EC student if you want more on their school), and then you can put together the full degree plan.

[rebel100]

The cost is very close, EC might be a little cheaper at first blush, but I think they will fall behind when you factor in the CLEP and SL that tesc accepts at the UL plus the 6 or so credits that TESC allows for free from FEMA.

EC:
$80 Application
$1170 for a 3 credit Capstone
$1015 Multi-source Enrollment option
$485 Annual Enrollment fee
$495 Graduation fee
$3245 and there are 15 free electives that you will have to pay for somehow...so $400is?

TESC:
$75.00 Application
$663.00 Cornerstone
$2559 Enrollment fee
$280 Graduation Fee
$3577.00 But there is room for 6 free FEMA in the plan, and TESC is very generous in awarding UL credit for courses like CLEP Management/Marketing and a couple of Straighterline.

COSC:
$75 Application Fee
$456.00 Semester Fee (2) (to allow for cornerstone and capstone)
$1932.00 Tuition (6 credits, cornerstone/capstone)
$205.00 Graduation Fee
$2668.00 Charter Oak is a bit more picky about what you can use at the UL in Business. They do accept FEMA free.

Anything wrong with the calculations....worked them up quick and might have missed something.

Another important factor is how thoroughly vetted the BSBA from TESC is here at IC. That in itself is really worth something...just not as many attending EC and COSC in this area.

[NAP]

Thank you for taking the time to figure out the latest costs. I had been wondering, since the capstone was added at TESC, but I did not know if tuition was already part of the enrollment fee there. Also, EC is a little cheaper, since the Student Service Annual Fee of $485 is only for extending enrollment beyond the first year. It's great to have a new breakdown of all of the schools.