List of Competency-Based Education (CBE) Institutions

[Hotdogman1]

It looks like you used AI and/or extensive web searching but with cursory if any quality control. The list omits some important programs we list on the wiki and often discuss, and some major programs it lists in nonsensically low categories. It includes programs regulars here recognize immediately as having closed, such as SNHU College for America and Northern Arizona University Personalized Learning. It appears to include tons of institutions where "competency-based education" is used loosely and the programs don't have the CBE features readers here are typically looking for like self-pacing and accelerability. It likely even lists many programs that require traditional face-to-face attendance but with some CBE features. Not including links for each program is a major limitation in usefulness.

I've tried using ChatGPT to research schools before and I've noticed it's much more inaccurate than normal inquiries. It's probably a situation of "Garbage in, Garbage out." I've checked the sources that ChatGPT used, and a lot of the school program websites were vague and those degree list/rank websites had incorrect/outdated information.

There are too many errors on this list. I've previously looked into more than half of those schools and most didn't have CBE degree programs. For example, this semester I helped a friend do research in Ohio. There are 5 schools from Ohio on the list: Franklin University, The Ohio State University, University of Cincinnati, Tiffin University, and Ohio University. As far as I know, none of these schools have CBE degrees.

To expand a little on Ohio, my friend (zero to Pierpont AAS) wasn't interested in what's usually recommended here as he wanted go more traditional for the rest of his education (and pursue several internships). Franklin is known here, Ohio State doesn't have anything special. However, University of Cincinnati, Tiffin University, and Ohio University have bachelor's degrees where if you have an associates degree, you just need to complete ~60 semester based credits to graduate. There's a lot of similar programs within Ohio and nationally, but my friend was looking for an in-state university. He will be using pell grant so the additional tuition isn't an issue, but you should go with the recommended schools if you're paying out of pocket and/or want to graduate quicker.

https://go.tiffin.edu/bachelors-programs...ompletion/
https://www.ohio.edu/university-college/...ed-studies
https://online.uc.edu/undergraduate-degr...d-studies/

[chopliver2]

It looks like you used AI and/or extensive web searching but with cursory if any quality control. The list omits some important programs we list on the wiki and often discuss, and some major programs it lists in nonsensically low categories. It includes programs regulars here recognize immediately as having closed, such as SNHU College for America and Northern Arizona University Personalized Learning. It appears to include tons of institutions where "competency-based education" is used loosely and the programs don't have the CBE features readers here are typically looking for like self-pacing and accelerability. It likely even lists many programs that require traditional face-to-face attendance but with some CBE features. Not including links for each program is a major limitation in usefulness.

I've tried using ChatGPT to research schools before and I've noticed it's much more inaccurate than normal inquiries. It's probably a situation of "Garbage in, Garbage out." I've checked the sources that ChatGPT used, and a lot of the school program websites were vague and those degree list/rank websites had incorrect/outdated information.

There are too many errors on this list. I've previously looked into more than half of those schools and most didn't have CBE degree programs. For example, this semester I helped a friend do research in Ohio. There are 5 schools from Ohio on the list: Franklin University, The Ohio State University, University of Cincinnati, Tiffin University, and Ohio University. As far as I know, none of these schools have CBE degrees.

To expand a little on Ohio, my friend (zero to Pierpont AAS) wasn't interested in what's usually recommended here as he wanted go more traditional for the rest of his education (and pursue several internships). Franklin is known here, Ohio State doesn't have anything special. However, University of Cincinnati, Tiffin University, and Ohio University have bachelor's degrees where if you have an associates degree, you just need to complete ~60 semester based credits to graduate. There's a lot of similar programs within Ohio and nationally, but my friend was looking for an in-state university. He will be using pell grant so the additional tuition isn't an issue, but you should go with the recommended schools if you're paying out of pocket and/or want to graduate quicker.

https://go.tiffin.edu/bachelors-programs...ompletion/
https://www.ohio.edu/university-college/...ed-studies
https://online.uc.edu/undergraduate-degr...d-studies/

Appreciate your kind reply out of accuracy I plan on deleting the thread. Thank you

[Jonathan Whatley]

We've had a good discussion, and the original poster has proven classy.

[LevelUP]

Appreciate your kind reply out of accuracy I plan on deleting the thread. Thank you

You can't delete your own thread, and it's pretty rare for a mod to remove an established one.

There are both AI optimists and pessimists. There are both AI optimists and pessimists. An AI pessimist might believe that ChatGPT, for example, can’t reliably answer a question like generating a list of CBE colleges.  An AI optimist would say it’s just a matter of trial and error of using the right prompts.

It's a bit lazy to prompt once, get a result you don't like, and then give up. On the other hand, at some point ChatGPT might just find our WIKI, quote it back to you, and then we’ve accomplished nothing.

Which begs the question: are there any CBE programs we’ve missed in the WIKI? Maybe. The only way to find out is to figure out where the nerdy students hang out, then ask ChatGPT to go down that rabbit hole and see what it can dig up. Start with Reddit, for example.

[infradata.it@gmail.com]

LevelUp,

I also use a.i. assistances a lot. More for "mastering it", but I have found that "Grok" seems better at lists like this, but even so ... the a.i. needs to be double checked like its a "fiver gig worker", making (at best) assumptions, and (at worst) outright lying.

Super good tool, but "measure 2x, cut 1x", IMHO ... example = go to the "free sources of credit" page, and select the "discussion" page at top, you will see the "master list of free" credits I had Grok make (and then I posted it there), which is very good, but is filled with assumptions and incorrect info .. I have found only "manual double checking" reliable

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Sorry to interject my 2 cents

[bjcheung77]

This is a workable list for people to go through if they ever wanted a CBE program that is not on the WIKI, some may exist and may be more beneficial than others as it has a subject matter different than what is currently offered. I would keep the thread for reference purposes and planning of CBE options to work with, there may be a gem in that list if someone digs deep enough...

[Hotdogman1]

Appreciate your kind reply out of accuracy I plan on deleting the thread. Thank you

You can't delete your own thread, and it's pretty rare for a mod to remove an established one.

There are both AI optimists and pessimists. There are both AI optimists and pessimists. An AI pessimist might believe that ChatGPT, for example, can’t reliably answer a question like generating a list of CBE colleges.  An AI optimist would say it’s just a matter of trial and error of using the right prompts.

It's a bit lazy to prompt once, get a result you don't like, and then give up. On the other hand, at some point ChatGPT might just find our WIKI, quote it back to you, and then we’ve accomplished nothing.

Which begs the question: are there any CBE programs we’ve missed in the WIKI? Maybe. The only way to find out is to figure out where the nerdy students hang out, then ask ChatGPT to go down that rabbit hole and see what it can dig up. Start with Reddit, for example.

Or Google. Just looking at Ohio CBE degrees:

Sinclair Community college FlexPace https://www.sinclair.edu/locations/onlin.../programs/
2 Associates degrees:
Computer Information Systems/Secure System Administration—Associate of Applied Science
https://www.sinclair.edu/program/params/...EMA-S-AAS/
Computer Information Systems/Software Development—Associate of Applied Science
https://www.sinclair.edu/program/params/...ODE-S-AAS/
Ohio resident: $188.28 per credit hour, Out-of-State and International Students $344.40 per credit hour.
 
University of Toledo https://online.utoledo.edu/programs/nursing-rn-bsn/
1 Bachelor’s Rn to BSN program:
“for those who currently have a registered nursing (RN) license (associate degree or diploma in nursing) and would like to continue on to pursue a bachelor of science in nursing.”
“The out-of-state surcharge is $5 per credit hour for students enrolled exclusively in an online program.” https://www.utoledo.edu/nursing/competen...ation.html
Tuition is a little tricky since they offer block tuition for 12-18 credit hours. At 18 credit hours, $299.26 per credit hour for out of state students.
 
Lourdes University (private Franciscan university) https://lourdes.edu/self-paced-100-onlin...-programs/
1 Bachelors, 1 Masters:
Self-Paced Online Business Administration (BS) Degree
https://lourdes.edu/business-administration/
CBE Subscription full-time (12 credit hours or more) – No institutional aid available    $5,200
Masters of Science in Nursing
https://lourdes.edu/direct-entry-to-mast...n-nursing/
CBE – Subscription full-time (6 credit hours or more) – No institutional aid         $  5,430
 
Malone University (private Christian university)
MBA
https://www.malone.edu/academics/graduat...ation-mba/
$615/credit hour

[chopliver2]

This is a workable list for people to go through if they ever wanted a CBE program that is not on the WIKI, some may exist and may be more beneficial than others as it has a subject matter different than what is currently offered.  I would keep the thread for reference purposes and planning of CBE options to work with, there may be a gem in that list if someone digs deep enough...

haven't heard back from you in the PMs

[bjcheung77]

This is a workable list for people to go through if they ever wanted a CBE program that is not on the WIKI, some may exist and may be more beneficial than others as it has a subject matter different than what is currently offered.  I would keep the thread for reference purposes and planning of CBE options to work with, there may be a gem in that list if someone digs deep enough...

haven't heard back from you in the PMs

Basically, don't expect a response as I don't respond to all PM's, in fact, I selectively ignore many that I get... I'll update your previous thread...