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International Student UMPI Admission process and Degree Plan
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(10-28-2024, 11:53 AM)Avidreader Wrote:
(10-28-2024, 11:48 AM)pedroso91 Wrote:
(10-26-2024, 01:54 PM)Avidreader Wrote: Which Mexican university is it? UNAM? IPN? As long as it is a public Mexican university or a private one with a RVOE number, the credits should be RA equivalent. Could just get them translated via Spantran or Scholaro and have them evaluated with a GPA value for 200 USD. Sending in those 15 RA credits could come in handy to save time and money.

And given you speak fluent Spanish, why not sign up for the Spanish language speaking or writing ACTFL exam for 165 USD and get easy 12 credits? 6 of those credits will be UL ones.

Thanks for you reply!, yes it´s a public Mexican university,  Universidad Virtual del Estado de Guanajuato (UVEG).

What do you mean with those therms? 
-RA equivalent -RA credit 

"ACTFL exam for 165 USD and get easy 12 credits? 6 of those credits will be UL ones" Can you explain me this  deeper

(10-27-2024, 06:30 PM)tak916 Wrote: I'm looking into the same program, there's a detailed program in the wiki section. I suggest doing the sophia part first, then subscribe study.com. Btw, the ACTFL exam and their customer service particularly WPT is terrible, if you want to take that exam, do the OPI or OPIc, cuz their exam system does not support foreign language input methods and they would not give you full refund if there's any problem with the WPT.

Thanks foro sharing this!
Uveg is a great school. It is definitely accredited. Get those transcripts translated to english and send them! UMPI should accept them.

RA = Regionally accredited which is higher accreditation status in the US.

Actfl exams are accepted by the universities in this forum as a quick and affordable way to get college credits. What is really valuable are the UL ones for 3rd and 4th years of college because there's few cheap options to get them online. You will certainly score the 12 credits on the Spanish speaking exam.
  • Thank you for the reply.

    I submitted my UVEG university credits to Spantran to check how much they will charge for the translation with the GPA.
    However, I have another question. UMPI replied to my email with some information, and they mentioned:
    Quote:"You may absolutely apply to our Business Administration – Project Management & Information Systems degree program.
    Official English-translated high school transcripts must be submitted directly to UMPI by a certifying official, stating that a high school diploma was earned, the date of graduation, and a cumulative GPA. If the above is not provided, the student may submit their high school transcript to an approved evaluation service. Once completed, the service will submit the transcript directly to UMPI."
  • My question here is that my high school diploma does not have a cumulative GPA printed on it.
    What options do I have?
    Note: Uveg University does it have the GPA and dates, but maybe i will need the evaluation for U.S. academic equivalency service from Spantran also the translate
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(10-28-2024, 01:44 PM)pedroso91 Wrote:
  • Thank you for the reply.

    I submitted my UVEG university credits to Spantran to check how much they will charge for the translation with the GPA.
    However, I have another question. UMPI replied to my email with some information, and they mentioned:
    "You may absolutely apply to our Business Administration – Project Management & Information Systems degree program.Official English-translated high school transcripts must be submitted directly to UMPI by a certifying official, stating that a high school diploma was earned, the date of graduation, and a cumulative GPA. If the above is not provided, the student may submit their high school transcript to an approved evaluation service. Once completed, the service will submit the transcript directly to UMPI."
  • My question here is that my high school diploma does not have a cumulative GPA printed on it.
    What options do I have?
    Note: Uveg University does it have the GPA and dates, but maybe i will need the evaluation for U.S. academic equivalency service from Spantran also the translate

The answer is in their response, use a high school transcript instead of the diploma. However, if you submit a college transcript, you become a transfer student, and it's possible that you would not need the high school diploma at all.
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(10-28-2024, 01:44 PM)pedroso91 Wrote:
  • My question here is that my high school diploma does not have a cumulative GPA printed on it.
    What options do I have?
    Note: Uveg University does it have the GPA and dates, but maybe i will need the evaluation for U.S. academic equivalency service from Spantran also the translate

You don't submit a copy of your high school diploma. You have to submit high school transcripts which being international probably need to be translated into English and may need to be authenticated by an agency such as WES. 

Yes you will need any international college transcripts to be translated into English and evaluated by an approved evaluation service. UMPI has a list of those who are approved on the admissions link I provided above for international admissions.
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(10-28-2024, 02:52 PM)ss20ts Wrote:
(10-28-2024, 01:44 PM)pedroso91 Wrote:
  • My question here is that my high school diploma does not have a cumulative GPA printed on it.
    What options do I have?
    Note: Uveg University does it have the GPA and dates, but maybe i will need the evaluation for U.S. academic equivalency service from Spantran also the translate

You don't submit a copy of your high school diploma. You have to submit high school transcripts which being international probably need to be translated into English and may need to be authenticated by an agency such as WES. 

Yes you will need any international college transcripts to be translated into English and evaluated by an approved evaluation service. UMPI has a list of those who are approved on the admissions link I provided above for international admissions.

Thank you very much for the clarification! I now understand the requirements much better. I’m in the process of getting my high school and college transcripts translated into English and evaluated for GPA equivalency. After researching, I found that InCred and FCSA offer the best pricing for these services, so I’ll likely proceed with one of them.

Since these transcript evaluations might take some time, I’d like to get started on any possible future transfer credits. Could anyone help me with a personalized degree plan? I know Sophia is a good starting point, but I’d like advice on the best route, especially considering my goal to work as an IT Project Manager. I’ve looked at Kylan11's BABA PM&IS Degree Plan, but I’m not sure if it’s optimal for my specific needs.

The college Courses that I finished in Mexico and planing to transfer are:
Computer Skills
Reading and Writing Workshop
Basic Mathematics
Introduction to Information Technology Management Engineering
Foreign Language I (English)

Also, as a native Spanish speaker, I read in a previous reply that I might qualify for an exam that would give me credits to transfer to the degree plan inclusive UL, which could help save time and costs. If you guys can explain me that deeper i´ll apreciated
Also could anyone explain how that works and what UL classes mean in the context of the degree plan?
Thanks again for all the helpful responses!
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You're referring to ACTFL, it's an exam that can grant you Spanish credits, it'll come in for the language requirement and if you score high enough, it'll get you some upper level elective credits as well. Here's our wiki link: https://degreeforum.miraheze.org/wiki/AC...Languages)
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(10-26-2024, 01:54 PM)Avidreader Wrote: Which Mexican university is it? UNAM? IPN? As long as it is a public Mexican university or a private one with a RVOE number, the credits should be RA equivalent. Could just get them translated via Spantran or Scholaro and have them evaluated with a GPA value for 200 USD. Sending in those 15 RA credits could come in handy to save time and money.

And given you speak fluent Spanish, why not sign up for the Spanish language speaking or writing ACTFL exam for 165 USD and get easy 12 credits? 6 of those credits will be UL ones.

What Courses can be acredited with those 12 credits of the Spanish Language speaking ACTFL? and should i pay the $20 extra for the  oficial copy sent to the university?
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#17
There are a few different exam options. Here's how they transfer to UMPI according to their transfer database.


ACTF 0034 alone
Spanish Writing Prof-Adv Low
8.00

SPA 1XX and
Spanish Elective
6.00
GLO5:LOC

SPA 3XX
Spanish Elective
2.00


ACTF 0035
Spanish Writing Proficiency
9.00
GEL 1XX
General Elective
9.00

ACTF 0049
Spanish Rdg Profic-Adv Low/Mid
3.00
SPA 101
Elementary Spanish I
3.00
GLO5:LOC
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(10-31-2024, 01:47 PM)pedroso91 Wrote:
(10-26-2024, 01:54 PM)Avidreader Wrote: Which Mexican university is it? UNAM? IPN? As long as it is a public Mexican university or a private one with a RVOE number, the credits should be RA equivalent. Could just get them translated via Spantran or Scholaro and have them evaluated with a GPA value for 200 USD. Sending in those 15 RA credits could come in handy to save time and money.

And given you speak fluent Spanish, why not sign up for the Spanish language speaking or writing ACTFL exam for 165 USD and get easy 12 credits? 6 of those credits will be UL ones.

What Courses can be acredited with those 12 credits of the Spanish Language speaking ACTFL? and should i pay the $20 extra for the  oficial copy sent to the university?
UMPI should accept the Spanish ACTFL for their foreign language equivalent, which will save you tons of time to focus on the courses you can't transfer from Mexican universities such as English 1 & 2 (the US and Mexican focuses of English are different. US programs focus on how to write dissertations and Mexican ones how to speak the language).

There's plenty of comments in the forum that UMPI's Spanish language class is brutal and you risk lowering your GPA. Sophia's spanish courses are a good option if you don't mind spending 2 weeks preparing powerpoint video expos and wait flr them to be graded. The advantage of ACTFL is the UL credits which you forcibly need and there's fewer cheap online options to choose from that are accepted by UMPI. I don't know how the Spanish courses are like in TESU, only that each course will cost around 30,000 MXN at the current exchange rate.

Any additional courses from your UVEG transcript that are not deemed as equivalents to TESU or UMPI courses will go into electives to fill out the minimum 120 credits needed to graduate.

For example, the UVEG English course will certainly end up as an elective because it does not match what is taught in US college English 1. What remains to be seen is if it will be valued 2.5 or 3 US credits.
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(10-31-2024, 02:01 PM)Avidreader Wrote: UMPI should accept the Spanish ACTFL for their foreign language equivalent, which will save you tons of time to focus on the courses you can't transfer from Mexican universities such as English 1 & 2 (the US and Mexican focuses of English are different. US programs focus on how to write dissertations and Mexican ones how to speak the language).

There's plenty of comments in the forum that UMPI's Spanish language class is brutal and you risk lowering your GPA. Sophia's spanish courses are a good option if you don't mind spending 2 weeks preparing powerpoint video expos and wait flr them to be graded. The advantage of ACTFL is the UL credits which you forcibly need and there's fewer cheap online options to choose from that are accepted by UMPI. I don't know how the Spanish courses are like in TESU, only that each course will cost around 30,000 MXN at the current exchange rate.

Any additional courses from your UVEG transcript that are not deemed as equivalents to TESU or UMPI courses will go into electives to fill out the minimum 120 credits needed to graduate.

For example, the UVEG English course will certainly end up as an elective because it does not match what is taught in US college English 1. What remains to be seen is if it will be valued 2.5 or 3 US credits.

English courses in the US do not focus on writing dissertations. No one writes a dissertation unless they're in a doctoral program. That's when one will learn how to write a dissertation.

Above I listed how the ACTFL exams transfer to UMPI. All of them do not apply towards the GEC and most do not have UL credit.
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(10-31-2024, 01:57 PM)ss20ts Wrote: There are a few different exam options. Here's how they transfer to UMPI according to their transfer database.


ACTF 0034 alone
Spanish Writing Prof-Adv Low
8.00

SPA   1XX and
Spanish Elective
6.00
GLO5:LOC

SPA   3XX
Spanish Elective
2.00


ACTF 0035
Spanish Writing Proficiency
9.00
GEL 1XX
General Elective
9.00

ACTF 0049
Spanish Rdg Profic-Adv Low/Mid
3.00
SPA 101
Elementary Spanish I
3.00
GLO5:LOC
ACTFL what should i pick, 
ACTFL OPI or ACTFL OPIc?
Both give me  up too  12 credits?
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