In Praise of SoBaT

[Ares]

“School of Business and Trade (SoBaT) looks like a total scam by the likely non-Swizz person running it possibly living in Switzerland.

1. No address or phone number anywhere on their page.
2. Domain is redacted for privacy and is .org not .edu
3. On Linkedin it was reported there is only one employee "Sophie Smith".
4. The only Facebook profile that matches this "Sophie Smith" has some very non-Swiss looking friends.
5. Their Facebook page was created on November 1, 2021 and another Indian posts they graduated on November 4, 2021.

This looks like a typical Indian scam site.

Any reputable institution will include clear contact information. This means an address and phone number.

[MichaelGates]

The School of Business and Trade (SoBaT) is not a scam, not even close to one. The school states openly on their website about the value of the degree. It makes no false claims of accreditation. The courses are free and each course gives a free certificate. There is work involved to complete a course. A person is not pressured to buy the degree, but can do so if they choose. If contacted SoBat does answer by email.

[Ares]

How do you know it is not a scam?

You can state anything on a website and responding to emails is hardly verification of anything. Not pressuring you to buy a worthless piece of paper is just a new scam tactic.

Name a single reputable institute of higher education that does not have an address and phone number.

[MichaelGates]

You can state anything on a website and responding to emails is hardly verification of anything. Not pressuring you to buy a worthless piece of paper is just a new scam tactic.

So when SoBat states that they do not have accreditation we should not believe them as we cannot verify that are telling the true and they might have accreditation and are lying to us. You can say anything on the Internet.

So when SoBat says of other schools "It is entirely up to them whether they accept our credits or not. Please do your own due diligence", we should not believe them you can state anything on the Internet.

I could go on, but I do not expect it will make a difference.

Students have completed the degrees and found them useful. I see no one having completed the degree complaining they have been made a victim. Anyone can say a school is a scam, but that is hardly verification of anything. 




 

[Ares]

I am sure many people have found their fake pieces of paper useful to scam dumb hiring managers into a job they are not qualified for but that does not answer any of my questions.

1. What is SoBat's address?

2. What is SoBat's phone number?

3. Name a single employee who works for SoBaT?

SoBaT is 100% a scam website. I suspect it is either an Indian or Pakistani scam by what I found.

Also why are you advertising for ENEB in your signature?

[MichaelGates]

I am sure many people have found their fake pieces of paper useful to scam dumb hiring managers into a job they are not qualified for but that does not answer any of my questions.

1. What is SoBat's address?

2. What is SoBat's phone number?

3. Name a single employee who works for SoBaT?

SoBaT is 100% a scam website. I suspect it is either an Indian or Pakistani scam by what I found.

Also why are you advertising for ENEB in your signature?

SoBaT Haus, Pilatusstrasse 6003 Luzern, Switzerland.
Sophie Smith, Sally Ashard (Yes, I have been in contact with both before).

[NotJoeBiden]

Scams normally require some type of buy-in…

[Ares]

SoBaT Haus, Pilatusstrasse 6003 Luzern, Switzerland.

No location shows up in Lucerne as the "School of Business and Trade".

Breaking down the address it looks like you are conveniently missing the street number.

Pilatusstrasse = Street Name
6003 = Postal Code
Luzern = City
Switzerland = Country

Lack of a valid address is the first sign of a scam school website.

SoBaT Haus, Pilatusstrasse 6003 Luzern, Switzerland.
Sophie Smith, Sally Ashard (Yes, I have been in contact with both before).

1. Provide an exact address that can be located on Google Maps.

2. Proved a reputable site proving those are real people and both work for SoBat.

3. Why are you advertising for ENEB in your signature?

Scams normally require some type of buy-in…

1. They get paid for emailing you a PDF file they edit with your name.

2. They get to help their friends get a fake credential by trying to establish a fake "Switzerland" school online that they are ironically hosting on a server in Pennsylvania.