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Hmm... AOJ courses will be much more expensive, the other alternative providers that may have some courses would be the current ACE recommended for credit Penn Foster/Pearson's Propero ones (each course will cost $329 or more vs Study.com or other providers that are $100/course). You might be better off with a BALS with Social Science concentration since you have some Psych/Sociology courses. I would do an evaluation for the BALS and see how many credits will remain, but as I mentioned in my previous post, the BSBA might be better for you.
Essentially, per my previous post, choose the BSBA concentration last. Your current credits are identical for the General Management & HRM/OM option as the Organizational Behavior is the only course applied to either AOS. The 1 credit HRM 331 freebie course won't matter as you need a 3 credit course to make up the difference anyways. It depends how much energy/money/time you want to put into the degree, that will determine which path you want to go. There are other alternative options to either AOS.
Depending on the amount of energy/money/time you have, there are numerous options and ways of "completing" the degree. If you have more time on your hands because of the Pandemic and you have some money saved up or have lots of energy, I might even suggest getting that ASNSM Math as you're just missing College Algebra ($20 on ALEKS or InstantCertCredit.com) or you can take the CSM Learn course for $39. This will be more valuable than the ASBA you have, since that ASBA would be "updated & upgraded" to a BSBA.
And then there is the option of doing the BSBA GM or the HRM/OM and just add a certificate or two. If you take Sophia.org Intro to Business & Project Management, you will be a course or two away from the Certificate in Operations Management. Basically, you need to take some courses at Study.com to finish the certs & BSBA. Its your choice, if you don't have the energy/money/time, then just get the BSBA GM with a few easy courses from Study.com to finish it off quickly...
Final piece of advice, you can ask to have those courses mentioned and see if you can take the LL courses for credit as well. I highly doubt that will work because these 300 level courses are numbered as UL but the course content are not UL in nature nor the name of the course doesn't correspond with an UL course, it won't hurt to ask but don't hold your breath, just take some courses to finish off the degree quickly. You need 2 LL and 3 more UL courses in Business for the AOS.
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(07-17-2020, 12:47 AM)bjcheung77 Wrote: Final piece of advice, you can ask to have those courses mentioned and see if you can take the LL courses for credit as well. I highly doubt that will work because these 300 level courses are numbered as UL but the course content are not UL in nature nor the name of the course doesn't correspond with an UL course, it won't hurt to ask but don't hold your breath, just take some courses to finish off the degree quickly. You need 2 LL and 3 more UL courses in Business for the AOS.
I know there was a post somewhere else on this fourm where someone did this very recently. They had old CLEP or something from years ago (when the marketing clep came in as UL Intro to Marketing.) and then they took study.com or something as LL, then they could move the UL to the AOS. Because at the time TESU took them as UL. So if they take a different course as LL it will have a different course number then it would come in differently, so it would work.
I think someone else did this recently as well for a liberal arts degree.
If it doesn't work then it doesn't work, but it's at least worth a try since LL courses are easier to complete and come by than UL.
I think the ASNM math is a good idea and super easy as well, since it is basically done. Sophia College Algebra is free you just to have sign up by July 31 and don't even complete it. Or do CSM for only $39 and a fantastic course.
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(07-16-2020, 11:05 PM)natshar Wrote: (07-16-2020, 10:27 PM)nataliedujour Wrote: So with the BSMA GM, aside from SOS-110 and the capstone I'm missing:
3 Gen Ed elective credits (somehow -- pretty sure I can just put something from Sophia here though)
FIN-301
MAN-372 or BUS-311 (would Sophia "Intro to Business" satisfy this?...)
ECO-112 (I can Sophia this)
MAN-373
AOS requirements: I have 4 credits out of the 18 required -- 3 in MAN and 1 in HRM, both courses UL.
With the BSBA HR/OM, aside from SOS-110 and the Capstone I'm missing:
3 Gen Ed elective credits (somehow -- pretty sure I can just put something from Sophia here though)
FIN-301
MAN-372 or BUS-311 (would Sophia "Intro to Business" satisfy this?...)
ECO-112 (I can Sophia this)
MAN-373
AOS requirements: I need MAN-331, PSY-360, and 9 HR/OM elective credits
With the BA in CJ, aside from SOS-110 and the Capstone I'm missing:
AOJ-102,SOC-291, AOJ-101, AOJ-358, AOJ-111, AOJ-363, PHI-383 and 4 more AOS elective credits
It almost certainly would be easier to get the missing credits I need for either of those BSBAs, but I'm definitely curious as to what the availability of AOJ alt credits is like...
For BSBA HR: how do you need MAN-331 when you already have it done? Anyways Sophia project management is free and counts as LL. Maybe PHI-384 or MAN-301 would count for the AOS, idk it doesn't hurt to ask.
I have MAN-311 Organizational Behavior done, not MAN-331 Human Resources Management.
Oops -- I have 3 credits for MAN-311 Organizational Behavior, but only 1 credit for MAN-331 Human Resources Management.
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(07-17-2020, 09:01 AM)natshar Wrote: (07-17-2020, 12:47 AM)bjcheung77 Wrote: Final piece of advice, you can ask to have those courses mentioned and see if you can take the LL courses for credit as well. I highly doubt that will work because these 300 level courses are numbered as UL but the course content are not UL in nature nor the name of the course doesn't correspond with an UL course, it won't hurt to ask but don't hold your breath, just take some courses to finish off the degree quickly. You need 2 LL and 3 more UL courses in Business for the AOS.
I know there was a post somewhere else on this fourm where someone did this very recently. They had old CLEP or something from years ago (when the marketing clep came in as UL Intro to Marketing.) and then they took study.com or something as LL, then they could move the UL to the AOS. Because at the time TESU took them as UL. So if they take a different course as LL it will have a different course number then it would come in differently, so it would work.
I think someone else did this recently as well for a liberal arts degree.
If it doesn't work then it doesn't work, but it's at least worth a try since LL courses are easier to complete and come by than UL.
I think the ASNM math is a good idea and super easy as well, since it is basically done. Sophia College Algebra is free you just to have sign up by July 31 and don't even complete it. Or do CSM for only $39 and a fantastic course.
Yup, it should work. However, having said that... I've usually recommended people to do that with the AOS courses, I rarely tell them to do this for the Professional Business Requirements unless it will fit in the AOS. An example or two is that they have UL Organizational Behavior or Project Management, they can just go for the two LL courses and finish the degree faster... I all depends really what the courses they already have are. If those courses can be used for the GM and GM is what they're looking for, then that would be the cheapest/easiest/fastest option, to get the LL courses and move these current ones to the AOS.
If the OP is looking at HRM/OM, then these courses don't play in that AOS, there isn't a need to get the LL course equivalents. I would recommend choosing your AOS, then selecting the courses that can transfer into them, I recommend Study.com - unless you're going for the GM, you can go for some Davar courses as they're $99/2 + exam proctor fees, so it's slightly cheaper (not by much if those two courses are the extra $70/exam for Study.com when you have completed more than 2 exams/month).
I didn't mention this the previous thread, but OP, have you thought about when you want to graduate? I mean, if you're in your early 20's, you may want to get the extra certificates and the ASNSM, there are no extra fees involved if you graduate the same time as your Bachelors (just the minor costs involved with the extra courses at alternative providers). OR - If you're well in your 40's and have an established career, then the degree is key, just get the BSBA GM and be done with it...
And then, there are more options, hahaha... like getting a BSBA with a dual AOS or if you have that much time on your hands, an extra degree, grad cert, it's all within whatever boundary you set yourself! See here for how dual AOS work, I'll be posting an update: https://www.degreeforum.net/mybb/Thread-...#pid313688
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07-20-2020, 10:44 PM
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I'd say even if you don't any other certificates at least do the ASNM math. Especially when it can be done with only one course for either free or $39 depending on which one you choose. Seems easy enough.
The certificates could be a pain depending on the one you choose.
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Hmm... Ask yourself what you're looking for and work toward that educational goal. Essentially, If I had extra cash/energy/time, I would do things differently as I do now. Basically, I would do this, as the BSBA is just a Business Administration degree and the AOS are concentration/minors - in the end it's still just a Business Admin degree! What I would do is take a double AOS in Entrepreneurship and International Business and get several undergraduate certificates in the process.
Just like a few/several members here, I love learning on my down-time. I think the certificates and AOS are valuable additions to the degree as courses taken gives you more in-depth knowledge of each concentration/minor. There are some members who have two associates/two bachelors from TESU because alternative credit options are inexpensive compared to taking regular college or university courses, the ROI/value of learning is very rewarding for the effort you put into it.
Heck instead of what I currently have, I would have done this: ASNSM Biology/Math, BSBA Entrepreneurship & International Business, certs in Accounting, CIS, Finance, Marketing, Operational Leadership, Operations Management. Then a BA in Biology & Comp Science double major as I want to work in AI/Biomedical Engineering/Machine Learning for Medical Devices to help those in need. I would not be able to obtain such an education at this price point without TESU offering these degrees by "alt" credit.
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